albaki Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I am having trouble with the make command in the official jag dev kit most of the time under ms dos promt from win 98se when i type make i will just freeze after mac-fb etc is displayed if i go into dos from boot up it works about 50% of the time. has anyone else had this problem. n.b. same problem with old toshiba 4000cdt 233mhz or 166 mhz pc both with win 98se. I have tried various dev kits off various cds(starcat,atari hq) but with the same problem. Any help would be great cheers alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Hello Alan, I am having trouble with the make command in the official jag dev kit most of the time under ms dos promt from win 98se when i type make i will just freeze after mac-fb etc is displayed if i go into dos from boot up it works about 50% of the time. has anyone else had this problem. Yes, it's the pathetically buggy make command which came from Atari. Replace it with another, it will be OK. e.g. nmake, (I think it's from MS and comes with their tools), or the Borland equivalent. Likewise, you can download a copy of GNU make, or one comes with the NUON SDK. I had the same problem in the early days, and it was only when I got in touch with a couple of Jaguar UnderGround guys I was sorted out. I can't think how Atari ever came to ship such a stupidly buggy tool. If you still have a problem, drop me a note, I'll be happy to assist. (My kids have a week off school though in UK, so I might be slow...) Cheers, JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albaki Posted October 23, 2004 Author Share Posted October 23, 2004 Just download nmake and replaced buggy atari version works great thanks for your help. one thought is how did ATARI manage to release a dev kit with one of the main tools so buggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hello, Just download nmake and replaced buggy atari version works great thanks for your help. Glad to help. As I said, if you need a 2nd opinion on any problem, post it, or drop me an email. one thought is how did ATARI manage to release a dev kit with one of the main tools so buggy. I think I wrote that in my message too! I just drove back from Euro-JagFest. It's 4.05 am. I'm bushed. TTFN Cheers, JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hello, Just download nmake and replaced buggy atari version works great thanks for your help. Glad to help. As I said, if you need a 2nd opinion on any problem, post it, or drop me an email. one thought is how did ATARI manage to release a dev kit with one of the main tools so buggy. I think I wrote that in my message too! I just drove back from Euro-JagFest. It's 4.05 am. I'm bushed. TTFN Cheers, JustClaws. I like too know was what it fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyChris Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 When I first attempted Jag programming this really screwd me up. What a Terrible first impression to Jaguar programming. I should try it again... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Hello Chris, When I first attempted Jag programming this really screwd me up. What a Terrible first impression to Jaguar programming. I should try it again... Absolutely. Any time I've seen anybody post a query, I've answered about this, but either I didn't see your post, or you never mentioned it to-date? I guess quite a few programmers already have another make on their hard disk, probably even earlier in their path, from another software installation, so it may not come up when they type make. As above, if you try again and need help, post here, or email me, time permitting, I'll help. I remember the pain I had coding alone, before I found all the other Jaguar home-brew programmers... Programming the Jag is always frustrating, but worth an attempt. Cheers, JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyChris Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 Thanks! I was really interested to see what the answer to this problem was. Can you imagine being an Official Jaguar developer and none of the tools work. At the time, I really didn't know what the problem was. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrant Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 I used to use a simple batch file to make my main file, which included all the other files, but then I decided it was a silly way to do things and went looking for a proper make tool that didnt crash. I couldnt find a dos binary of gnu make, so I downloaded the source, then went to get djgpp (gnu c compiler and other tools for dos) to compile it with, and found there was a binary of make packaged with it lol. I do so adore make, the way it can do such cool things as rebuilding a tga into an object, via tga2cry outputting as source, then deleting the source afterwards, and only rebuild when you change the tga... phunky stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysmith2000 Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 I used to use a simple batch file to make my main file, which included all the other files, but then I decided it was a silly way to do things and went looking for a proper make tool that didnt crash. I couldnt find a dos binary of gnu make, so I downloaded the source, then went to get djgpp (gnu c compiler and other tools for dos) to compile it with, and found there was a binary of make packaged with it lol.I do so adore make, the way it can do such cool things as rebuilding a tga into an object, via tga2cry outputting as source, then deleting the source afterwards, and only rebuild when you change the tga... phunky stuff Ironically enough, I have some Atari hard drives that sure enough they did the same thing to compile. They just wrote simple little batch files. Pretty bad when your own programmers don't use the utility your company created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Czarnowski Posted November 13, 2004 Share Posted November 13, 2004 Ironically enough, I have some Atari hard drives that sure enough they did the same thing to compile. They just wrote simple little batch files. Pretty bad when your own programmers don't use the utility your company created. Yup - actually I could never figure out why Atari made broken make.exe - it's so obvious it had problems they just had to knew about it. Secondly I never actually traced what Atari broke in make but this is not very important today when one can choose between different make versions. The final thing is why Atari never used make from GCC - the one that was working? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hello, Just download nmake and replaced buggy atari version works great thanks for your help. one thought is how did ATARI manage to release a dev kit with one of the main tools so buggy. So a little time has passed, as you getting on OK now?Anything else bugging you, where other Jag coders might be able to help? Are you working on a project, or did you just want to try the Atari demos? Cheers, JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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