Idea for the Redemption II...

[PacManPlus]

I've been toying with the idea of taking the redemption and putting it in a new case; one that also will have a keypad and Start, Pause, and Reset in it as well. It will remove the need for the original controller to be connected...

 

The only thing that's putting me off is that I want to try and make the original overlays still fit (maybe take a broken controller ?) Don't know.

 

Anyway, it's just an idea... for the Redemption II

[Albert]

It definitely would be nice to have a Redemption-style device that has a built-in keypad, but we would have had to use some type of custom case to do that, and the parts for the keypad controller would also have added to the cost (and time to build the devices). There are no plans for a Redemption II right now, but anything is possible further down the road.

 

If you put the original Redemption in a new case with a keypad, I'd love to see pictures of it.

 

..Al

[sku_u]

It definitely would be nice to have a Redemption-style device that has a built-in keypad, but we would have had to use some type of custom case to do that, and the parts for the keypad controller would also have added to the cost (and time to build the devices).  There are no plans for a Redemption II right now, but anything is possible further down the road.  

 

There'd be no need for a custom case. The kit boxes Radio Shack sell would work. There are also a multitude of old controllers that could probably be gutted to house the redemption hardware. Jag controllers are the first thing that come to mind.

[sku_u]

Better yet, are Jag controllers compatable with the 5200? If not could that be the next redemption project if indeed there's one in the plans for the future?

[sku_u]

Meant to say compatable through one of the current redemption units.

[CPUWIZ]

Better yet, are Jag controllers compatable with the 5200?  If not could that be the next redemption project if indeed there's one in the plans for the future?    

 

They can be made to be compatible.

 

http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Projects/5...00jr/index.html

 

What I find interesting is that Kevin seems to still be around, I thought he had dropped out of the hobby.

 

Look at the menu in this link, it has the "Burgertime" pre-release versions from AA in it.

 

http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Projects/5...0jr/index4.html

[Rob Mitchell]

one that also will have a keypad and Start, Pause, and Reset in it as well.  ...  I want to try and make the original overlays still fit

 

The 2600 keyboard accepts the 5200 overlay in width and button spacing .. but the overlays are too short.

 

I may put the 2600 keyboard, Start, Pause, and Reset buttons on top of the console just to get them out of the way.

 

Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA

[sku_u]

Better yet, are Jag controllers compatable with the 5200?  If not could that be the next redemption project if indeed there's one in the plans for the future?    

 

They can be made to be compatible.

 

http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Projects/5...00jr/index.html

 

What I find interesting is that Kevin seems to still be around, I thought he had dropped out of the hobby.

 

Look at the menu in this link, it has the "Burgertime" pre-release versions from AA in it.

 

http://www.tripoint.org/kevtris/Projects/5...0jr/index4.html

 

That's pretty sweet. Now I have to find me someone willing to do it for me. (Didn't see a good how to anywhere there).

[PacManPlus]

Hi Sku_u

 

I already tried the Radio Shack cases with the keypad - although they might be great for the 'keypad' part, they have three extra keys that (normally) would have been perfect for the Start, Pause, and Reset... But alas, Atari did things differently, and the way the matrix for those three keys is laid out makes it impossible (unless you turned the keypad sideways)

 

I'll figure something out...

[Albert]

Yeah, Radio Shack and other kit cases are nice, but they don't quite have the "polish" we were looking for. The 5200 cartridge shells worked out very well, and we were able to design a board that fit inside them with minor modifications to the 5200 case. Plus they use standard size Atari labels, which worked out well (and we had a label contest for the Redemption). Not the ideal setup (which would be to have custom cases made), but I like how they turned out.

 

A Jaguar controller adapted to the 5200 would be very cool.

 

..Al

[Albert]

Oh, and that 5200 Jr. is very cool.

 

..Al

[Vic George 2K3]

Definitely a good idea.

[Rob Mitchell]

the way the matrix for those three keys is laid out makes it impossible (unless you turned the keypad sideways)  .. I'll figure something out...  

 

I have a source for cheap 4x4 keyboards ($3). They use the matrix for selecting which of the 16 keys you want. None of the keys are labelled.

 

Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA

[mechanized]

I've been keeping an eye out for things that look like they could be converted to keypads, a la Redemption.

 

Since I'm not an electronics wizard, I've been keeping my ideas on the simpler side by looking specifically for things that could house the typical 5200 circuit membrane. Then I could fairly easily do the wiring, have my Pause, Start, and Reset buttons with minimal customization. I haven't been worrying about the overlays at all, though, since I usually don't slip them on for use, instead only referencing them for keypad actions.

 

My ideal find would be an inexpensive basic function calculator with enough room to fold the membrane to maneuver the useful areas into position, keep the unused areas out of the way, be able to hold some minimal wiring and the internal cord housing, and enough room in the LCD screen area to hold some decent Pause, Start, and Reset buttons. Plenty to work with, basically, but I need to find the right one.

[Brad2600]

Oh, and that 5200 Jr. is very cool.  

 

..Al

 

I agree. I want to buy something like that, LOL. I have a 5200 but I rarely use it anymore. That may change someday though. It's too good not to play.

 

I'm still happy with my Redemption controller. I do want something like the Jaguar controller, since it might be more reliable and it could be made to work with more games.

[+RangerG]

The 5200 Starcon stick has a small basic membrane keybpad that is overlay size that works great. I wonder where this part came from?

[Rob Mitchell]

The 5200 Starcon stick has a small basic membrane keybpad that is overlay size that works great. I wonder where this part came from?

 

I think this part is the same as that of the 2600 keyboard.

 

Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA

[Godzilla]

oh, kevtris is still around. and he's working on an AMAZING all-in-one retro console device that will run off of standard flash ram cards iirc. I drool in anticipation.