Blackjack #1 Posted November 3, 2004 I was under the impression that pal carts "roll" when played on ntsc systems/tv's. I got this Puzzy Sea Monster in the mail the other day and it plays perfectly on my ntsc. It came in a box lot from canada along with a bunch of other carts that were all ntsc. Sea Monster was the only pal title. Could there have been an ntsc release of this game? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CPUWIZ #2 Posted November 3, 2004 Click on "Search" and type Puzzy NTSC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony clifton #3 Posted November 3, 2004 I would have no problem rolling your puzzy because I am a real man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #4 Posted November 3, 2004 Click on "Search" and type Puzzy NTSC. So if I'm reading this correctly, I just got me an R9. http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17963 That would be my second in just 2 months. Now I'm jazzed Anyone have a guess as to $ value? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #5 Posted November 3, 2004 Rare or not, it was worth it. After shipping I only paid about 75 cents per cart and there were several good ones in the lot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theretrodogg #6 Posted November 4, 2004 Some ( the odd few ) NTSC tv`s take PAL carts I belive, did you have trouble with PAL before ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mindfield #7 Posted November 4, 2004 FWIW, Puzzy games were released in Europe and Canada, so there are NTSC Puzzy games to be found. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #8 Posted November 4, 2004 Some ( the odd few ) NTSC tv`s take PAL carts I belive, did you have trouble with PAL before ?? Never had a pal cart before. The tv is a $150 wal mart cheapo though, so I doubt it's anything special. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kyle #9 Posted November 4, 2004 Blackjack i'm sure you know this already but just in case. Carts sold in canada would be NTSC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #10 Posted November 4, 2004 Blackjack i'm sure you know this already but just in case. Carts sold in canada would be NTSC. Yeah, I know. But since I couldn't find any info on an ntsc version of this game, I thought maybe it was a pal cart that he had picked up on ebay by mistake or while he was on vacation or something. AA database only has it as pal. I'm pleasantly surprised at the existence of the ntsc version. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #11 Posted November 4, 2004 My Puzzy don't roll You should really see a doctor about that. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sku_u #12 Posted November 4, 2004 Click on "Search" and type Puzzy NTSC. So if I'm reading this correctly, I just got me an R9. http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17963 That would be my second in just 2 months. Now I'm jazzed Anyone have a guess as to $ value? $20-25 tops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sku_u #13 Posted November 4, 2004 ...and it's definitely not a 9. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #14 Posted November 5, 2004 ...and it's definitely not a 9. ok, so I wasn't reading it right.... oh well. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CincYnoTi #15 Posted November 5, 2004 ...and it's definitely not a 9. Are you suggesting that it is a 10? Just kidding. :wink: Right now, it is not even a rarity=? since it does not have an entry in the database. From the tally in the rarity forum, it looks like there are 6 AA members that own one and you make the seventh. That is fewer than Magicard and Music Machine, but that does not mean it is a 10. But still, it is informative to keep track of it. Maybe some day, it will actually get an entry in the database...along with silver hangman, sears pic superman, atari library pak, superman wallet pak, tron joystick pak and so on and so on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
video game addict #16 Posted November 5, 2004 Maybe some day, it will actually get an entry in the database...along with silver hangman, sears pic superman, atari library pak, superman wallet pak, tron joystick pak and so on and so on. Atari library pak was just a storage case was it not? Did it include any carts? If not then I don't think it fits in database. It would fit in an accessory & hardware guide, but not a cartridge listing. The Tron set included a boxed game inside so they were packaged together & I can see it fitting, as well as the others you have listed, but if no cartridges were packaged with it, I don't think it belongs in the database. Better suited for an accessory database like gamerz has set up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CincYnoTi #17 Posted November 5, 2004 The library pak came packaged with two games, canyon bomber and something else, would have to go look it up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CincYnoTi #18 Posted November 5, 2004 Maybe some day, it will actually get an entry in the database...along with silver hangman, sears pic superman, atari library pak, superman wallet pak, tron joystick pak and so on and so on. ...and the Indy 500 with the different picture label. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
video game addict #19 Posted November 5, 2004 The library pak came packaged with two games, canyon bomber and something else, would have to go look it up. I don't see any mention of this anywhere. I thought you were referring to the Atari library modular storage case thingie. Although looking that up it has a different part number too. But you mean as in the other pak sets like Back to School & Action & Racing. I searched the forums here & google groups but only found three mentions of this all from you. This isn't listed in DP guide either. Do you own this? Do you have a picture of one that exists? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UK WOMBLE #20 Posted November 5, 2004 Blackjack wrote: CPUWIZ wrote: Click on "Search" and type Puzzy NTSC. So if I'm reading this correctly, I just got me an R9. http://www.atariage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17963 That would be my second in just 2 months. Now I'm jazzed Anyone have a guess as to $ value? $20-25 tops. I dunno, as someone who doesnt have one, I would probably pay more than that for it, after all, it is pretty rare it seems. Si Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #21 Posted November 6, 2004 Now I'm just kinda confused. If only 6 AA members own one besides me, I'm thinkin' it's pretty darn rare. Regardless I'm amazed I finally own a cart that CPUWiz don't have 2 of (sinister chuckle here) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CPUWIZ #22 Posted November 6, 2004 Now I'm just kinda confused. If only 6 AA members own one besides me, I'm thinkin' it's pretty darn rare. Only 6 people said they own one, there are hundreds of people who don't give a rats ass about the rarity forum. I stopped posting my new aquisitions a while back as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bjk7382 #23 Posted November 6, 2004 Only 6 people said they own one, there are hundreds of people who don't give a rats ass about the rarity forum. There's a rarity forum I don't think I have posted in that one, or the politics forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ma3a_operat0r #24 Posted November 6, 2004 due to the 2600's unique video chip, it seems likely using my common sense (there's some there..!) that PAL/NTSC encoding is purely in software for 2600 games (so you just need an PAL-compatible TV to play a PAL game, even if you're using an "american" 2600). am i right in saying this? this is sorta also a question for me, because i'm looking to buy a few NTSC games (they're in australia, as am i, so things are usually PAL, but my el-cheapo TV can handle NTSC - take note of this, blackjack! it's incredibly likely that your TV can handle PAL (at least in australia, you can't buy a TV without NTSC support nowadays!) that's my 2 cents or whatever -duncan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirantho #25 Posted November 6, 2004 due to the 2600's unique video chip, it seems likely using my common sense (there's some there..!) that PAL/NTSC encoding is purely in software for 2600 games (so you just need an PAL-compatible TV to play a PAL game, even if you're using an "american" 2600). am i right in saying this? this is sorta also a question for me, because i'm looking to buy a few NTSC games (they're in australia, as am i, so things are usually PAL, but my el-cheapo TV can handle NTSC - take note of this, blackjack! it's incredibly likely that your TV can handle PAL (at least in australia, you can't buy a TV without NTSC support nowadays!) Not quite. The framerate is in the software, yes, which is why badly programmed games like Artillery Duel and Air Raid don't even work on all NTSC systems. However, the PAL/NTSC encoding is down to the Atari. Hence you stick an NTSC cart in a PAL machine you get PAL-60 (60Hz PAL - not uncommon) and a PAL cart in an NTSC machine you get NTSC-50 (50Hz NTSC - unheard of!). Most PAL TVs can do 60Hz, many can do NTSC. NTSC TV's however can not usually do PAL. I think they kind of figure there's no need.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites