Tickled_Pink #1 Posted December 23, 2004 Is there an Atari 8-bit emulator which can use ProSystem disk images (think they have a .PRO extension)? I have a protected disk that I want to convert to a ProSystem image for use on an emulator ... wow. What a surprise. And before anyone makes the obvious suggestion, the disk is pretty damned rare and I haven't found a copy (in PRO or ATR format) in any of the archives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATARIeric #2 Posted December 23, 2004 i think steve "classics" @ atarimax would have that for you... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
classics #3 Posted December 24, 2004 Unfortunatly not. Due to different licence agreements and incompatibility of anything non-open with the GPL, PRO emulator support never came to be. There is a new, completely open and probably GPL (or at least GPL friendly) protected disk format coming out soon. Until then you can try posting a copy of the PRO image, someone will probably be able to 'crack' it and make a ATR version compatible with the emulators for you. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tickled_Pink #4 Posted December 24, 2004 I'm going to have a crack at cracking it myself over Christmas. Seems to be nothing more than a bad sector check. Once done, I'll send the ATR to Atarimania for posperity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
classics #5 Posted December 24, 2004 Any chance you can tell us what program it is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tickled_Pink #6 Posted December 24, 2004 It's the disk-based programming language, PL65. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rfucci #7 Posted December 24, 2004 Can you copy the disk itself, e.g., with a Happy drive ? If so, maybe I can lend help to create the ATR. No special magic, just willing to try. Various tools at hand e.g. Omnimon. Ron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tickled_Pink #8 Posted December 24, 2004 I don't have a happy (want one) but did have a backup made for me by Nir Dary a little while ago. I'll give it a go myself first. Never hacked an 8-bit disk although I did managed to strip the protection from Audiogenic's Impact on the ST as an experiment - it was pretty simple, so hopefully this one will be as well. If I can't do it then I'll pass it onto someone else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Tomlin #9 Posted December 25, 2004 I'm going to have a crack at cracking it myself over Christmas. Seems to be nothing more than a bad sector check. Once done, I'll send the ATR to Atarimania for posperity. As I understand it, Atari disk copy protection was generally nothing more than using one of the alternate address marks. There are four possible, and the drive returns this status, but an unmodified Atari drive would only write one of them. Any TRS-80 user would be amused by this, since they had direct control of the FDC chip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ijor #10 Posted March 18, 2005 As I understand it, Atari disk copy protection was generally nothing more than using one of the alternate address marks. There are four possible, and the drive returns this status No. Alternate Data marks (not address marks) is just one of the protections. Btw, you can only detect two types of data marks on the Atari, and you can’t detect any variation on the address mark. Any TRS-80 user would be amused by this, since they had direct control of the FDC chip. Yes, and I believe that it was used to write some protections for Atari. But most 1050 enhancements (probably all besides the USD) give you full control of the FDC as well. That’s the reasons that later protections used more advanced techniques, where direct control of the FDC doesn’t help. Actually, “Bad/deleted Data mark” (that’s how they were usually called in the 8-bit) is not a very popular protection on the A8. Probably because is one of the easiest to handle for devices like the Happy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites