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Krokodile Cartridge - Games it Will Not Play

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According to the AtariAge store page, I have created a list of the games that use bankswitching methods the Krokodile Cartridge does not support. Here it is:

 

Arcadia/Starpath Supercharger

Communist Mutants from Space

Dragonstomper

Escape From the Mindmaster

Fireball

Frogger, The Official

Killer Satellites

Labyrinth

Party Mix

Phaser Patrol

Rabbit Transit

Suicide Mission

Survival Island

Sweat: The Decathlon Game

Sword of Saros

 

FE

Decathlon

Robot Tank

 

E0

Frogger ][: Threeedeep

Gyruss

James Bond 007

Montezuma's Revenge

Mr. Do's Castle

Q*Bert

Q*Bert's Qubes

Star Wars: Arcade Game

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Super Cobra

Tooth Protectors

Tutankham

 

E7

Bump 'n Jump

Burgertime

MOTU: Power of He-Man

 

F0

Megaboy

 

Pitfall ][: Lost Caverns

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Actually this could become a very cool thread as we get to make the list more accurate...maybe would do well as a sticky.

 

TWO days 'till shipping! (me hopes)

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Except for the supercharger games, I own every one of those, I can't wait to get the Krocodile Kart! Well, except for Qubes

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what games does the Cuttle Cart II not play? Does it play all the 2600 games? Still purchasing and eagerly anticipating the Krokodile Kart. ;)

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The only game currently in existence the Cuttle Cart II should not play is Pitfall II. Decathlon, Robot Tank, Space Shuttle, Supercharger games and Dark Chambers (2600) may depend on the 7800 in question and can be modified to do so if it will not. Demos that use the 3E bankswitching scheme or other obscure scheme will not work either.

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The only thing I can't get working on my CC2 is Pitfall 2. I actually wish someone could hack it but sadly you can't (as the chip provided more than just sound enhancement).

 

Part of the confusing thing is that Space Shuttle, for example, has a different bank switching mode for NTSC and PAL versions...

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what games does the Cuttle Cart II not play?  Does it play all the 2600 games?  Still purchasing and eagerly anticipating the Krokodile Kart. ;)

 

Well we do have:

Are there any games that won't work?

Pitfall 2 will not work on the Cuttle Cart 2. It's special chip is too complicated to emulate in the Cuttle Cart 2's bankswitching logic chip. Other games might be found to be incompatible as well, especially as certain 2600 games will not work on 7800s. These games will most likely not work on the Cuttle Cart 2 either.

from:

http://www.schells.com/cc2.shtml

 

Now the question is: Has there been any new games that Chad can not make a bak switch file for?

 

Someone sad that the CC2 will play 2600 games on a 7800 that the same game will not play with the cart. This had something to do with the "sync" line or something that the CC2 has and a 2600 cart does not.

 

We will have to have Bruce Tomlin speak about it.

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Does it do the CBS Ram Plus games like Tunnel Runner, Omega Race, Mountain king?  Thanks!

 

Yes it does :wink:

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Decathlon, Robot Tank, Space Shuttle, Supercharger games and Dark Chambers (2600) may depend on the 7800 in question and can be modified to do so if it will not.

None of those games are a problem when put on a 7800 cartridge board, which has the necessary phase-2 clock line. A 2600 cart had to "guess" when that clock was going to happen.

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Is there no way to coerce Dragonstomper to work on a Kroko cart? Hackers, shouldn't this be a top priority? ;)

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So based on the list of non-compatiable games that was first published and the conversions that have been done to date, it looks like the following are the current games that remain non-compatible with the Krokodile Cartridge. An unbelievable short list! Does this look accurate to everyone?

 

- All the Arcadia/Starpath Supercharger Games

- Montezuma's Revenge (supposely have been converted, but can't locate)

- Mr. Do's Castle (converted, but doesn't 100% work)

- Burgertime

- Megaboy

- Pitfall 2: Lost Caverns

 

Arcadia/Starpath Supercharger

Communist Mutants from Space

Dragonstomper

Escape From the Mindmaster

Fireball

Frogger, The Official

Killer Satellites

Labyrinth

Party Mix

Phaser Patrol

Rabbit Transit

Suicide Mission

Survival Island

Sweat: The Decathlon Game

Sword of Saros

 

FE

Decathlon - Converted to be compatible

Robot Tank - Converted to be compatible

 

E0

Frogger ][: Threeedeep - Converted to be compatible

Gyruss - Converted to be compatible

James Bond 007 - Converted to be compatible

Montezuma's Revenge - Supposely converted, but can't locate

Mr. Do's Castle - Converted to be compatible, but doesn't 100% work.

Popeye - Mistakenly left off the original list, but has been converted to be compatible.

Q*Bert - Mistake from original list. Compatible.

Q*Bert's Qubes - Converted to be compatible

Star Wars: Arcade Game - Converted to be compatible

Star Wars: Death Star Battle - Converted to be compatible

Super Cobra - Converted to be compatible

Tooth Protectors - Converted to be compatible

Tutankham - Converted to be compatible

 

E7

Bump 'n Jump - Converted to be compatible

Burgertime

MOTU: Power of He-Man - Converted to be compatible

 

F0

Megaboy

 

Pitfall ][: Lost Caverns

 

 

According to the AtariAge store page, I have created a list of the games that use bankswitching methods the Krokodile Cartridge does not support. Here it is:

 

Arcadia/Starpath Supercharger

Communist Mutants from Space

Dragonstomper

Escape From the Mindmaster

Fireball

Frogger, The Official

Killer Satellites

Labyrinth

Party Mix

Phaser Patrol

Rabbit Transit

Suicide Mission

Survival Island

Sweat: The Decathlon Game

Sword of Saros

 

FE

Decathlon

Robot Tank

 

E0

Frogger ][: Threeedeep

Gyruss

James Bond 007

Montezuma's Revenge

Mr. Do's Castle

Q*Bert

Q*Bert's Qubes

Star Wars: Arcade Game

Star Wars: Death Star Battle

Super Cobra

Tooth Protectors

Tutankham

 

E7

Bump 'n Jump

Burgertime

MOTU: Power of He-Man

 

F0

Megaboy

 

Pitfall ][: Lost Caverns

Edited by kmarker

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The new run (Revision 1.1) of the Krokodile supports E7 bankswitching.

 

That means you can remove HeMan, Burgertime and Bump'n Jump.

Edited by Kroko

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Demos that use the 3E bankswitching scheme or other obscure scheme will not work either.

 

The 64K version of 4A50 works, as does 3E.

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