Atari-Jess Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 Man, I really wanted to get this game only to find out its PAL. ARGH! WHY CANT EVERYONE HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF TELEVISION THINGY DO WHAT NOW!?? ARGH!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemmi Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 you could get the 7800 version of fatal run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari-Jess Posted December 25, 2001 Author Share Posted December 25, 2001 yeah, but, its just that a 32k 2600 game?? I HAVE TO HAVE IT, but now that I cant exactly fully enjoy it with my new TV that I wont be able to enjoy it on besides the damn colour thing... And Ive yet to be able to get fatal run for MESS or v7800 to work, I prolly should get it but I dont know where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 It works great with PCAE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari-Jess Posted December 25, 2001 Author Share Posted December 25, 2001 i know it does, it works good on z26 as well, but it has something in its code so it wont show the stupid pal colours, i want the actual cart man! and i dont want it now cause its PAL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari-Jess Posted December 25, 2001 Author Share Posted December 25, 2001 wait do you mean 7800 fatal run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 No, I meant the 2600 version. I've never seen the original PAL colors, but I'd like to get myself a copy as well. Anyways, I like it because it plays like "Pole Position", but with more power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari-Jess Posted December 25, 2001 Author Share Posted December 25, 2001 that too, thats why its a cool game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Atari-Jess: Man, I really wanted to get this game only to find out its PAL. ARGH! WHY CANT EVERYONE HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF TELEVISION THINGY DO WHAT NOW!?? Yes, the lack of a universal television standard is quite aggravating. This continues to be an issue even when programming games today. I think for the PS2 version of Deus Ex we need to make sure the PAL screen resolution is properly supported. Unfortunately when you have millions and millions of televisions in an existing format, it's really hard to get people to switch to something new. Or even get enough companies and governments to agree to a new "standard". You can always play Fatal Run in an emulator, and if you *really* want to see the game on your television, you can then pipe the output of your computer to your TV. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted December 25, 2001 Share Posted December 25, 2001 Yeah, you Americans should really switch over to metric too... (Hey, I think my Avatar got lost somewhere!) --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari-Jess Posted December 25, 2001 Author Share Posted December 25, 2001 yeah cause metric is just SOO much easier! I WEIGH 68 kilos AND IM 1.76 meters tall! AND COLOUR IS SPELLED WITH A U! A U!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckhard Stolberg Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Atari-Jess: i know it does, it works good on z26 as well, but it has something in its code so it wont show the stupid pal colours, i want the actual cart man! and i dont want it now cause its PAL! Are you saying there is a problem with the colours in the emulators? Stella, PCAE and Stella all allow you to select between NTSC and PAL colours for all games. z26 and Stella should play Fatal Run in PAL colours, and PCAE always defaults to NTSC colours. In PCAE and z26 you can change the palette with a special key. For Stella you need to change the STELLA.PRO file, if you prefer to play Fatal Run in NTSC colours. For z26 you should also use the -5 command line option, as this will allow you to play PAL games with a 50Hz refresh rate, just as they are meant to be. Ciao, Eckhard Stolberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nateo Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Atari-Jess: yeah cause metric is just SOO much easier! I WEIGH 68 kilos AND IM 1.76 meters tall! AND COLOUR IS SPELLED WITH A U! A U!!! Oh YEAH!? I WEIGH 130 POUNDS! I'M 5 foot, 11 inches! AND COLOR IS SPELLED WITHOUT A U! THERE IS NO "U" SOUND IN COLOR!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 This Metric discussion is cracking me up.The first 'metric' laugh I got was when the U.S. teachers attempted to teach metric at the schools.The teachers did not quite 'get it', so the kids never got it.The only thing I remember that is metric, is Mork saying "Nano,nano"(Geez, is this generation getting that old!)--now back on topic--Pal is a pain,but if you want to collect the last red label games,without selling your car,you will break down and get a PAL copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted December 26, 2001 Share Posted December 26, 2001 My TV doesn't support PAL, but if I can find a good Commodore Monitor, which I hear does, albeit with goofy colors, then I'll work at getting Fatal Run and otehr good PAL games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Stilphen Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Eckhard, the colors in Raiders (NTSC) on Z26 are still a bit off (ex. the Valley of Poision should be orange and green. Instead it is light green and dark green) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze_ro Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Atari-Jess: yeah cause metric is just SOO much easier! I WEIGH 68 kilos AND IM 1.76 meters tall! AND COLOUR IS SPELLED WITH A U! A U!!! Well, the U in colour (and other words) obviously has nothing to do with metric... and metric DOES make more sense. All the conversions are simple. You guys are just too lazy to actually change over like the rest of the world already has Seriously, I don't know why they don't just start making all speed limit signs have BOTH metric and imperial on them... and gradually phase out imperial. --Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 Because that would be logical. The US government has no logic to it. All these laws passed recently are pretty damn unconstitutional, and I await a chance for the courts to say something on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 How dare you put the word 'logical' in the same sentance(or anywhere near it anyway) that the word 'government' is in!!!The US has already done the 'Kilometers/Miles' signs;they used to be everywhere,but now only on big interstate signs.People lost interest and lawyers put more laws on laws,and the merry-go-round goes 'round until you get dizzy and sick...but let's not let that get between the atari machine and us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubersaurus Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 I think I can prove how insane the government is. They pass anti smoking laws, and then pay tobacco farmers when they can't sell their crop. WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 so most of my games suck, right? quoteYes, the lack of a universal television standard is quite aggravating. personnally, i think it's as aggravating as the lack of US-collectors to get a pal-ntsc adapter or to make sure their TV or VCR supports both modes. it's really stupid this discussion. i mean .... if i'd do the same then i'll have to say my waterworld sucks. as well as crazy climber, all my prototypes, etc ..... at least a third of my collection. from my point of view, i could say ntsc is the 'other' system and it sucks. that way, you'll never ever have a complete collection. the difference is only relevant when it comes to the rarity of some single carts. i have also to laugh about us collectors going "no PAL for me" and then collecting brasil carts. you guys should know these carts are in PAL-M format. it might work on ntsc, still it's another standart, just easier to addapt. but on the other side, i wouldn't say it much complicated to switch a VCR (with multistandart) between the TV and the Atari, it's just one more cable to plug in .... "but it's so expensive ...." : no, F*** that! you can get a cheap VCR on the fleamarket for 20$. don't worry how it looks like. only the tuner needs to function properly and convert the signal, that's all .... i got one for my friend for even 10$ from a video store. i just asked if they have an unreparable VCR where the tuner still works. the solution is so simple .... disapointed fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malix Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 We havent changed over because we are bigger than you and have a bigger stick. Na Na NaNa Na Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 hey, instead of spending so much time arguing about metrics, take half an hour to modify your atari so you can play PAL carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckhard Stolberg Posted December 27, 2001 Share Posted December 27, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Scott Stilphen: Eckhard, the colors in Raiders (NTSC) on Z26 are still a bit off (ex. the Valley of Poision should be orange and green. Instead it is light green and dark green) And just like the last time where you mentioned this I can only shamefully admit that I don't know this game too well. Maybe this time you could give me some instructions on how to get to the screen you are complaining about, or maybe you could post a screenshot, so that I can see the problem for myself. But the transition between orange and green is a bit of a borderline descission. What colour you end up with also depends a bit on how your TV and monitor are tuned, so there might not be much we can do to get the colours right for everyone. Are the colours on your TV and your monitor tuned similarily, or are there other differences in the VCS/z26 palette for example? Maybe you could run my little colour test program on the Cuttle Cart or Supercharger and compare the whole palette to the one in z26? Ciao, Eckhard Stolberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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