Systems that just arnt worth it

[sega saturn x]

Have you ever been disapointed with a system so much that you dont even buy games for it? This has happend 3 times to me well lets start form the beginning first the nes.

 

-Its hard to get to work

 

-A lot of the common games are awful

 

-Buying games off of e bay is a total joke due to cost

 

All right on to the next system the n64

 

-Most of the games look like they had big heaps of mud thown at them (graphic wise)

 

-Finding games in good shape is nearly impossible and the games are generaly over priced.

 

-the controloer has not aged well in any way.

 

Now finaly we come to the 2600

 

-Most games are unplayable due to age

 

-i cant stand the controloer some love them i am not one of those people.

 

-all of the games are ugly (im not expecting the world but clearly difinable objects would be nice)

Well thats my list how about you?

[candiru]

I can find something redeeming about almost any game system. Like I don't play my Microvision much, but it's fun to have just because it's so primitive.

 

Now that crack about the 2600.... Them's fightin' words.

[Lemmi]

Have you ever been disapointed with a system so much that you dont even buy games for it?  This has happend 3 times to me well lets start form the beginning first the nes.

Now finaly we come to the 2600

-Most games are unplayable due to age

-i cant stand the controloer some love them i am not one of those people.

-all of the games are ugly (im not expecting the world but clearly difinable objects would be nice)

Well thats my list how about you?

 

this sounds like age talking (a youngin)

 

-Most games are unplayable due to age

explain this in detail please

[+FujiSkunk]

Have you ever been disapointed with a system so much that you dont even buy games for it?  This has happend 3 times to me...

 

I can certainly understand your frustration, particularly on these three systems. I've given up shopping for the 2600 on eBay, I've never shopped for the N-64 on eBay, and the few times I tried to shop for the NES left my head spinning.

 

However, I have to say there are excellent games that make all three systems worth having (especially the 2600, pardon my bias), and you'll likely find hardware that you're comfortable with, especially if you know where to look and/or are willing to roll up your sleeves and do some manual labor.

 

I've never been big on the Intellivision myself. Something about it, between the controllers (a funky cross between joysticks and gamepads) and the graphics (even more simplistic than the 2600's, or so it often seems), has quelled any compelling desire to collect stuff for it. Still, I do have one, found at a thrift store, and there are a couple of titles that make it worth owning.

[Draikar]

Nintendo 64 is a great system, Mario and Zelda are far better the the ones for Nintendo GameCube. And a cool tank game for 64 was very much fun even if that games grafics were of low grade it was fun, think it was called Battel Tanx.

[NovaXpress]

I've never found a system that didn't have something I liked.

[Xot]

I think the only systems I have that I really don't collect much for are the Inty, Game.Com and 32X. All are difficult to maintain and none have stellar games that make maintenance and set up worth it.

[DeV0]

The PAL megadrive i owned was thrown out pretty quick, mainly due to the lack of pal optimizing for most the titles.

[spacecadet]

I've never found a system that didn't have something I liked.

 

I feel this way too, but there can still be systems that "aren't worth it" even if there's something about them that you like.

 

For example, I can totally appreciate the Neo Geo AES. It's the only system I know of ever that is completely, 100% arcade perfect in every game, down to the exact same ROMs being used in the carts. It's a nice-looking system, the controllers are amazing, and even just holding one of the carts is a beautiful thing. The games themselves are often still a lot of fun and hold up well.

 

But is it worth it? For me, hell no. It's still around $30 for the cheapest used cartridge! I have one game for this system and that's it. I doubt I'll buy any more until the common ones at least hit $10.

 

A couple other systems I have but haven't bothered keeping up with, and the reasons for it:

 

* Coleco Vision - games are just too expensive given its age and how common I remember them all being. My memory of this system and the way it's treated by collectors today is way out of sync. I just can't reconcile paying more than a buck a cart for this system.

 

* Atari Jaguar - not worth it simply because there are so few good games. The few good games that there are are often more expensive than what I want to pay.

 

* N64 - I will buy more games for this system, I'm just waiting for them to really hit rock-bottom. But I actually bought my system new for $129, bought a few games on clearance, and then haven't touched it since. My problem was buying it towards the end of its life, then getting enamored with the Dreamcast. Nowadays, it's past the point where you can really be impressed by it in any way, but not yet to the point where games are truly cheap and the nostalgia kicks in. (I will say that Sin & Punishment is one of the best games for any system, and I'm glad I picked up this system for that game alone.)

 

* SNES - this is a great system, but that's part of why I've steered clear so far. It just seems really daunting; there are so many great games, I don't even know where to start. And I've just got so many other systems I'm collecting for, that I just haven't really felt the need to delve into it yet.

 

That's about it. Most of the rest of my systems I do actively buy games for now and then.

[Atari-Jess]

The Colecovision.

 

I hate "add ons" and I hate specialized adapters.

I hate how you have to have an adam printer plugged in to use the ADAM.

And while it has some good games, the 2600 does just as well.

[Bruce Tomlin]

Yeah, that 3DO that I found a couple of months ago. In addition to having crappy S-video output, just looking at the titles being uploaded to a binaries newsgroup, I couldn't see any that I even wanted to burn, much less buy. (Yeah, I know some of you may have one or three 3DO favorites, but that's for you, not for me.)

 

At least I only paid four bucks for it.

[sandmountainslim]

There are plenty of enjoyable games for the 2600 like Kaboom and Star Voyager just to name a couple and what about Zelda and Mario 3 on the NES? The only two systems I own that I just cannot get into are the SNES and Genesis but I am sure there are others who think they are the shiznit.

[SteveW]

For me, it's the Sega Master System, and it's little brother, the Game Gear. I just can't get into any of the games. None of the 15 or so games I own for the SMS really engage me on any level. The only one I ever put any effort into was Alien Syndrome, just because I liked the Amiga version.

 

With the Game Gear, I keep playing it thinking..... "The Lynx could do better...." The screen can't keep up with the action, and the games I have for it don't really inspire me to bother putting batteries in the thing and giving it a shot.

 

I also have to mention the Memorex VIS. I've got one, plus several programs, but I haven't even hooked the thing up to see if it works. Mainly because most of the software I have for it is extremely lame, and nothing that even resembles a game.

[Atarifever]

On the N64 note i would have agreed until a few days ago, when I got one. Now I am addicted to Shadows of the Empire and a neat little weird game called Body Harvest. Hexen came with it and does look lke mud, but I end up addicted to it for an hour at a time anyway. The controller does suck, but these games are all playable and fun. Especially Shadows, which has made me throw down all my other gaming fr a while. I just saw Orcaranine of time (not spelled correctly I know) for $9.99 at EB, so I guess I'll be buying that next (if I can ever beat Bobba Fett and Slave One at the same time).

[racerx]

*  Atari Jaguar - not worth it simply because there are so few good games.  The few good games that there are are often more expensive than what I want to pay.

 

Blasphemy!

 

Every system has its share of interesting games and sinkers, so I ahve a rather short list:

 

Playstation...always thought the graphics and gameplay stunk on most of these. I ended up with a ton of games though, because they were so easily...er..."acquired."

 

Genesis...thought the controllers felt cheap and the graphics never seemed to hold up to the SNES. Still, stuff like Herzog Zwei was pretty cool.

 

Turbografx/Wonderswan/3DO...not rare enough to collect, no real killer apps. These kind of represent odd-man-out entries among their contemporaries.

 

The Dreamcast and N64 are probably the heaviest used consoles in our house. Although many N64 games were indeed craptastic, it had even more that in terms of playability or just dumb multiplayer fun were head and shoulders above anything else. The Dreamcast is fun because Sega had so many "thinking out of the box" type games for it. The VMU was an underused but novel idea, and the graphics hold up to today's systems.

[davepesc]

Getting back to the 2600, if you don't like the joystick, many other systems use the same connector. Myself, I play Atari with a Genesis pad (mostly because I don't have a working joystick, but that's beside the point).

 

As for me, The Dreamcast never really grabbed me. Not because it is too dificult to use or anything. I have like 10 games, but no desire to play any of them. I still would like to try some of the shooters, though.

[Mr Egg]

for me it would have to be the TG16.I remember wanting one so bad back in 90-91 to play bonks revenge and splatterhouse but cant think of a single cool game to play now.

[kemsted]

The N64 has loads of good games for it:

Super Smash Bros.

Zelda: OOT

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Road Rash 64

The Bomberman games

Harvest Moon 64... just to name a few, and its one of my favorite systems. However, two systems that Ive bought that I havent really gotten into are the Genesis and the Master system. Maybe I just dont have the right games or something

 

-kemsted

[Zonie]

I have one cart for my N64. The Midway (Williams) arcade classic with defender, joust, etc. I paid 10 bucks for it loose. Too much IMO. It's just really here for when My son comes to visit, He brings his carts.

 

I have a SNES with one cart. The pack-in. It came with my second wife. It's too nice to sell to a game store for a mere 10 bucks as it looks brand new. But I have to agree with whoever said it. NES and SNES games are just not worth the prices on them. To me, the carts are worth are 1-2 bucks like the 2600.

 

I use my dreamcast mostly for emulation. 2600, 5200/8-bit, COlecovision, some arcade games. I do have the fishing pole and marine fishing, and a steering wheel I found at a swap meet for 4 bucks. Works well with Crazy taxi. The atari Anthology is good too.

 

My favs are the Atari 7800 and 400, which I just got working the other day. a 5200 with better controllers as I see it.

 

I do not like Playstation and PS2 games. Not enough good shooters for any of them. fighting games dont do it for me, and every racing game seems the same as the last. I also don't think the graphics are much better (if at all) than the dreamcast. I got to play a Playstation a year before it came out when I was in japan. They had one at one of chip manufacturers I was working at as a demo unit because they were making the video chip for it. I didn't like it then either. Most Sony product are crap now. Not the quality they were in the 70's.

 

Xbox?? What's the point? It's a PC without a keyboard. Kinda like a 5200!

 

The 3D0, TG16, Genny, SMS, NES, and Neo Geo are also not what I consider worth collecting for due to their obscurity and price of games (except the genny)

 

I agree that the CV stuff is over priced. Too many software bugs in the games IMO. Intv was just popmous assed boring (like Plimpton).

 

Jaguar. Wish I'd kept bidding on the one on epay awhile back. Console, CD, and 24 games incl Space ace, dragons lair, and tempest (incl the CD) went for only 134.00. would have been worth it just for those three titles.

 

I don't collect every game for my systems, just what I will play. That makes it managable and also wife-compatible.

[christianscott27]

as a collector first and foremost i love almost anything i can get my hands on, the more obscure the better. what turns me off about a system is educational content, i purged all edu-carts out my TI-99 collection. i wont even touch stuff like the memorex system or the Pico. i just hate the idea of video games teaching you something, thats so not what escapism is about. i even feel questionable about including the dataman and 2XL in my handheld/toy collection.

 

i just dont look at systems like i see them being described in this thread, to me each system is its own little world which has nothing to do with other consoles before or after it. you get a decent spread of games for a console and then you can see what the potential of the hardware was, how creative the programmers were and what the flavor of the system was. if you take something like the odyssey2 or TG-16 and just enjoy them for being their own little worlds and not compared to the other systems of the day they're pretty awesome. those systems had a lot style and things not seen elsewhere. once a system is out of production the whole "which system is the best of this generation" becomes pretty meaningless.

[Joystick Jedi]

I think the Colecovision is overrated. Atari had a better machine in the 5200.

[spacecadet]

The N64 has loads of good games for it:

Super Smash Bros.  

Zelda: OOT

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Road Rash 64

The Bomberman games

Harvest Moon 64...

 

The problem is every single one of these has been either re-released or sequelized on another, better system! That makes it not worth even playing the N64 versions.

 

How can you play SSB on the N64 when the GameCube version is so good? Zelda: OOT and Harvest Moon have also appeared on the GameCube (Harvest Moon on the PS2 as well I think), Bomberman's on like every system, Conker's on Xbox (and IMO wasn't very good to begin with), and Road Rash?? I love the original Road Rash but Road Rash 64 was crap (that's the one on this list I'm not sure has been updated since then).

 

This is true of all of the early 3D systems... almost all of their best games have updates or sequels that look and play better on newer systems. You've really gotta dig down for those unique and lesser-known games that never found an audience in order to make these systems worth collecting for.

[Artlover]

Zelda: OOT also appeared on the GameCube

 

And absolutly sucks with the GC controllers. I've tried playing it on the GC and give up because it's unplayable as far as I'm concerned. I'd much rather play it on a real N64 anyday.

[Vic George 2K3]

I bought into the Sega systems like Genesis, Sega CD, and Game Gear during the space of a whole year (late 1993 to late 1994). Unfortunately, they didn't have any lasting power in my book.

 

Genesis: Total lack of games that I wanted to play in my book, besides probably the Sonic games.

 

Sega CD: Same problem, but made worse by FMV games released on technology that couldn't do the whole concept any justice (and I'm still waiting for someone to re-release Night Trap and Sewer Shark as DVD-ROM games), plus having to use two power cords to play a Genesis-Sega CD hookup (like that was really necessary) scared me away from even considering getting a Sega 32X (another power cord? No thanks!).

 

Game Gear: Same problem, plus the thing ended up getting so ridiculously bulky to carry around with the accessories I bought for the thing, like a Game Gear-compatible Game Genie plus a Master Gear converter.

[joeybastard]

I've never found a system that didn't have something I liked.

 

Same here although it was tougher with the INTV, Jaguar and Sega CD.