damaged CD Rom, what to do?

[Alcopoper]

I finally had a chance to check my purchased CD Rom. And oh uh, it's not working right. the CD is not turning properly (too slow), sometimes it does not turn at all, sometimes it makes noises.... anybody knows something about this sort of issue??

the CD rom keeps on trying to read the cd and does not give me a CD error, but it also does not start......

 

Thanks for help/feedback

[Lost Monkey]

Try to turn the CD spindle with your finger.. if there is resistance, the spindle may have been pushed down by someone trying to force a CD to click into place on the spindle rather than just letting it rest on top.

 

If that is the case (there is resistance), gently pry the spindle upwards (with a small flat scredriver) until you feel it move a little bit.. if it does move upwards, then it should work fine afterwards. If it does not move, then the problem must be elsewhere.

[Htbaa]

Be careful though! I once did that with my PSX which got screwed up because of it .

[Lost Monkey]

That is why I wrote "gently"... if it does not move upward from gentle pressure, there is a different problem.

[justclaws]

Hello,

 

I finally had a chance to check my purchased CD Rom. And oh uh, it's not working right. the CD is not turning properly (too slow), sometimes it does not turn at all, sometimes it makes noises.... anybody knows something about this sort of issue??  

the CD rom keeps on trying to read the cd and does not give me a CD error, but it also does not start......

Also, Linkovitch who's here, wrote a nice guide to repairing Jag CD's, and

he has in fact repaired quite a few now, even replacing the mechanism.

http://www.linkovitch.me.uk/jaguar/cdrepair/

 

This may specifically deal with your problem.

http://www.linkovitch.me.uk/jaguar/cdrepai...ck-platter.html

 

Just one other thought - did you try an audio CD too, because maybe

the funny speed is related to the Jag trying to read the data and failing.

It then spins the CD up and down quite often trying to get that sorted,

so it can suggest that the drive isn't working, but it's then intentional.

Of course it may not be able to read the CD because it's dead anyway.

 

Let's hope that that you find a happy solution before a new mechanism.

 

Cheers,

JustClaws.

[Nukey Shay]

My advice:

Run. Away. Quickly!

 

 

< avoids the Jaguar. It's not friendly

 

 

At least not on these boards

[Alcopoper]

I actually tried Audio CD's first...

 

No, it is indeeed the spindle that is stuck. And the link(s) you posted will help a big deal. I know what I am busy with tonight...

Thank you very much....

 

btw.: you mentioned once you lived in the Frmhm, MA area? I am living in Marlboro right now... So, are you still in NE or did life bring you somewhere else????

[Gunstar]

That is why I wrote "gently"... if it does not move upward from gentle pressure, there is a different problem.

 

Actually, I picked up a non-working JagCD last year, and a depressed spindle was indeed the problem, but while I did do it gently-as-possible, it required far more upward pressure than I anticpated to put the spindle back in it's correct position. At the same time you have to "hold back" while doing it becuase you don't want to be less-than-gentle and pop the whole s.o.b. off! So they may be some that were pressed down harder and are harder to pull back up. In the end though, I had a Jaguar CD that worked perfectly for a couple minutes of work, the first thing I checked too, of course, since I knew of the common problem.

[Alcopoper]

 

The world is good again. I checked this web page with the repair tips & hints and tried the screwdriver method. So I just "squeezed" the platter up by turing the screwdriver and rotating the platter while doing that.

Did this procedure until the platter was moving freely.

Now I have a QUITLY working JagCD

 

Thanks guys for your help!!!!!!!

[justclaws]

Hello,

Great news!

The world is good again. I checked this web page with the repair tips & hints and tried the screwdriver method. So I just "squeezed" the platter up by turing the screwdriver and rotating the platter while doing that.

Did this procedure until the platter was moving freely.

Now I have a QUITLY working JagCD

Glad to hear of another JaguarCD back into healthy operation.

Now you just need some more CD games to use it with, as we all do. Soon...

Cheers,

JustClaws.

[absman]

Hello,

 

concerning Glenn Bruner's investigations to DSA Data Strobe Acknowledge (Communication Protocol) some useful hardware information can be found under the products link of the page he mentioned.

 

CD mechanisms

 

The link Pictures shows some mechanism pictures which look equal the pictures linkovitch made for his great cd repair guide (helped me just as well ).

 

The link Downloads provides a datasheet as pdf which includes a mechanical drawing (figure 7 on page 26) of the CD mechanism showing the height of the platter above the mechanism.

 

It seems that CDM 12.01 and VAM1202 are the same thing.

 

Some electronic distributors handle CDM 12.01 = VAM1202

 

Searching on eBay.com, eBay.co.uk or eBay.de with terms like CDM 12.01 or VAM1202 (try with or without space or minus char) finds shops selling the CD mechanism in new condition.

 

Looks like Atari used a common CD mechanism for the jaguar CD as others like Marantz used for their HIFI CD players.

 

Regards

[jaguar_fan]

Hello,

 

concerning Glenn Bruner's investigations to DSA Data Strobe Acknowledge (Communication Protocol) some useful hardware information can be found under the products link of the page he mentioned.

 

CD mechanisms

 

The link Pictures shows some mechanism pictures which look equal the pictures linkovitch made for his great cd repair guide (helped me just as well ).

 

The link Downloads provides a datasheet as pdf which includes a mechanical drawing (figure 7 on page 26) of the CD mechanism showing the height of the platter above the mechanism.

 

It seems that CDM 12.01 and VAM1202 are the same thing.

 

Some electronic distributors handle CDM 12.01 = VAM1202

 

Searching on eBay.com, eBay.co.uk or eBay.de with terms like CDM 12.01 or VAM1202 (try with or without space or minus char) finds shops selling the CD mechanism in new condition.

 

Looks like Atari used a common CD mechanism for the jaguar CD as others like Marantz used for their HIFI CD players.

 

Regards

 

Thanks for this valuable info.