problems with CC2

[gambler172]

Hi guys

last week,i got my CC2.Really great,but i use it on a 7800 Pal system.

And i have some problems with some games.Gato,Rescue on Fractalus,

Senso,Andrew Davie´s Notbd,Commando and some other 7800 games do not run,although i own the Pal roms.Can anybody help?Or can i use NTSC roms on my Pal system?

greetings Gambler172

[cschell]

I'm no expert on what will and won't run on PAL 7800's, but it would be helpful if you posted the MENU.TXT entries for the games that don't run. It could be a case of incorrect banking or startup files.

 

Or if you are actually getting an error message, list the full message.

 

Chad

[gambler172]

Hi Chad

i get no error message.The files appear on the CC2,but they do not work.

This is the text for Andrew Davie´s Notboulderdash.

Bouldern BOULN 3E 78BIOS

Boulderp BOULP 3E 78BIOS

i only renamed the bin files,but it does not work

This is the text for Gato

 

Gato78 GATO 7800_48K 78BIOS

When starting,it changes to the built in 7800 Pal Asteroids

Here the text for Rescue on Fractalus

ResFrac78 RSFRCTLS 7800_ROF

This is the text for Commando

Comm78 COMM78 78SC_POK 78BIOS

and here the text for the 3 Senso versions(i renamed the files)

Senso78 SENSO78 7800_48K 78BIOS

Senso3 SENSO3 7800_48K 78BIOS

Senso5 SENSO5 7800_48K 78BIOS

And the text for Fatal Run 7800 pal version

Fatal 78 FATAL78P 78SC_LOW 78BIOS

And at last MS Pac Man NTSC for use with highscore cart

Ms.Pac Man 78 MSPAC78 HSC_16K HSC

And certainly i did not forget the tab key

greetings Gambler172

[Mayhem]

Well I'm running PAL 7800 here myself... checked my MENU file and you've got everything set up correctly (ie. it's the same as mine). I can only think you've got some bad ROMs there or something.

 

Can you send over the NotBoulderdash and Senso ROMs to me (either attach here in a post or to my email address) as I appear to be missing them? Cheers

[Mayhem]

Oh, here's a zip with the 5 files I have for the ones you can't get to work; all of them are fine on my 7800.

gambler.zip

[cschell]

Hi Chad

i get no error message.The files appear on the CC2,but they do not work.

This is the text for Andrew Davie´s Notboulderdash.

Bouldern BOULN 3E  78BIOS

Boulderp BOULP 3E  78BIOS

i only renamed the bin files,but it does not work

3E games require the 3E3F512K startup. I forget the exact name but look in your startup directory for something close to that and replace 78BIOS.

 

This is the text for Gato

 

Gato78 GATO 7800_48K 78BIOS

When starting,it changes to the built in 7800 Pal Asteroids

Try 78QUICK to bypass your BIOS perhaps?

 

 

And at last MS Pac Man NTSC for use with highscore cart

Ms.Pac Man 78 MSPAC78 HSC_16K HSC

Make sure you have HSC.ROM in your startup directory.

 

Not sure on the others. Don't have a menu file on the computer I'm using right now to check that everything is using the correct banking. I'd try replacing the 78BIOS and HSC startups with 78QUICK and HSCQUICK.

 

Chad

[+Mitch]

Did you use 7800 BIN files or did you rename A78 files?

 

Mitch

[Mayhem]

Got the email Gambler, will have a look tomorrow if I get the chance.

 

What's the startup file needed for Senso btw?

[+Mitch]

What's the startup file needed for Senso btw?

 

Either 78BIOS or 78QUICK depending on whether it's signed or not. Probably wouldn't matter on a PAL 7800.

 

Mitch

[Mayhem]

Duh... typo there... I meant banking

 

(I'm guessing 7800_48K here)

[gambler172]

Hi Mich

i used the A78 files and renamed them to BIN.

I normally find only A78 files on the net.Where can i get BIN files,if necessary?

greetings Gambler

[+Mitch]

Hi Mich

i used the A78 files and renamed them to BIN.

I normally find only A78 files on the net.Where can i get BIN files,if necessary?

greetings Gambler

 

You can snag the BIN files here (scroll down for the PAL versions).

Renaming the A78 files doesn't work because there is a header included that needs to be removed as well.

 

Mitch

[Mayhem]

Thought as much... just before I went to go off and test the ROMs you sent me Gambler

 

Hunt out my ZIP file in the CC2 thread... almost 1,100 ROMs of goodness there to play with (both NTSC and PAL).

 

Cheers for the Senso stuff though... will go try them out.

[cschell]

Good catch on the A78 files Mitch. We should rename this thread to cc2 problems - oops don't use A78 files.

 

Happens often enough it should have occurred to me.

 

Chad

[Mayhem]

Remind me... first 128 bytes to strip off an A78 file to make it a BIN, right?

[+Mitch]

Remind me... first 128 bytes to strip off an A78 file to make it a BIN, right?

 

Yep, through where it says "actual cart data starts here".

 

Mitch

[gambler172]

Hello

Thanks Mayhem,thanks Mitch and Chad.

Now nearly everything works.Only Notboulderdash from Andrew Davie and Senso 7800 do not work.Does anybody know,how to get this 2 games

working.

many thanks and greetings Gambler172

[+Mitch]

Hello  

Thanks Mayhem,thanks Mitch and Chad.  

Now nearly everything works.Only Notboulderdash from Andrew Davie and Senso 7800 do not work.Does anybody know,how to get this 2 games  

working.  

many thanks and greetings Gambler172

 

Try this version of Senso 7800 DX, use 7800_48K and 7800BIOS with the bin file. I included the A78 in case anyone wanted to try in in MESS.

I don't seem to have a copy of Notboulderdash so I can't help you with that one.

 

Mitch

senso_7800_dx.zip

[Mayhem]

The Senso files you sent me Gambler were all renamed A78 files so they need the first 128 bytes stripping. I've done that, will go test them later (and the one Mitch has just put up).

 

Will also test Not Boulderdash as well...

[128bytes]

all renamed A78 files so they need the first 128 bytes stripping. I've done that

 

Hey, everyone's still trying to take a peek at me... :blushing:

 

Seriously, we should try to have both .a78 and .bin files available for download at the AtariAge site. I would even go as far to say that if there had to be only one version available, it should be the .bin version. It would do wonders for my modesty!

[Mayhem]

Checked things out. I've got two different Senso files; they both say v0.9 in game but one of them has 2001 on the intro screen, and the other has 2003. Any actual difference?

 

And I got Not Boulderdash to work fine (using the BINs from the homebrew thread Andrew started). Just remember you need 3E banking and the 3E3F512K startup BIOS.

[gambler172]

Hi

The Boulder Dash files work fine now. :wink:

Thanks Gambler172

[gambler172]

Hi Guys

and finally i got Senso to work

Many thanks to all,for helping me.Especially to Mayhem and Mitch.

greetings Gambler172