Gregory DG Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 One thing I noticed... I don't think the lady frog shows up again once you've already picked her up. I've seen this happen a few times. The music is a good addition, but the only tune I really like is the true Frogger theme. I am eager to hear the scrunchy "frog jumps home" sound effect. Much better collision detection now. Whew! Keep up the great work! Just a few more additions and tweaks and this one'll be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I added TIA music from Cybergoth to the latest frogger build.Let me know what you think. 861107[/snapback] IMHO, the music sounds good - But a bit too loud when played under MESS and compared with other Atari 7800 games. I had to reduce my volume between 25-50% to have it at 'comfortable' levels. In the Arcade, Frogger's opening music/start of game would play loud, as well as completion of level/start of new level music. However, the rest of music while in-game/level plays much lower, and sound effects (As in the already implemented Frogger leaping) should 'overpower' the music. -Trebor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 Thanks for the feedback guys! One thing I noticed... I don't think the lady frog shows up again once you've already picked her up. I've seen this happen a few times.861274[/snapback] Right, it happend everytime if you just wait long enough.This doesn't happen anymore in the latest version Keep up the great work! Just a few more additions and tweaks and this one'll be done! 861274[/snapback] well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted May 28, 2005 Author Share Posted May 28, 2005 I added TIA music from Cybergoth to the latest frogger build.Let me know what you think. 861107[/snapback] Music is pretty good...for TIA. A lot of the harmonies are out of tune. Pokey, please?861139[/snapback] Yes, I think I will also do a Pokey version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 RMT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted May 30, 2005 Author Share Posted May 30, 2005 RMT? 863198[/snapback] I don't think so. Frogger doesn't need fancy instruments. I think I can manage to keep the data size low (I will use the Atari XL version as template). But in general using RMT is a good idea (especially for more complex music). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted May 30, 2005 Share Posted May 30, 2005 but you could easily import MIDI files as frogger uses a lot of classics...and as the source is public you could adapt it to play f.e. 1 voice instead of all 4... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feralstorm Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Nifty - Frogger uses the 320-pixel-wide mode!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted June 5, 2005 Author Share Posted June 5, 2005 but you could easily import MIDI files as frogger uses a lot of classics...and as the source is public you could adapt it to play f.e. 1 voice instead of all 4... 864286[/snapback] I think I can only import mod? Anyway I could convert midi to mod and than to RMT Maybe I will use RMT don't know it by now. Nifty - Frogger uses the 320-pixel-wide mode!?!?! 866994[/snapback] Yes I thought it would be a good idea to use similar resolution to the original version. This way it looks a bit more like the arcade version. Even if the graphics isn’t very spectacular it nearly needs all MARIA cycles. Maybe that's one reason why the 320 modes wasn't use very often. Another reason may be that the gfx isn't easy to handle because you only can use all of the 6 colors if you choose the gfx carefully (if anybody what to know more about it take a look here: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=68549 ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feralstorm Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 It definitely looks like a near-exact copy of the arcade graphics. Only thing that stands out to me at all is that the lady frog looks the same as the player's frog. Impressive to see all that stuff moving around at a higher resolution than (what seems like) 99.9% of all other 7800 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbloke Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 how does one make a cart for the 7800? i would guess it is similar to making a 2600 one. is there a document or website about how to do this? 853338[/snapback] Currently the only option is to cannibalize a common 7800 32K cartridge, swapping the ROM with an EPROM with an inverter between A15 and ~OE. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Grand of Pixels Past and Albert have something on the drawing board. (Although a donor cart may still be required for the plastic housing.) 854584[/snapback] what kind of eprom are you using for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwierer Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 what kind of eprom are you using for these? 869202[/snapback] I posted a tutorial in a different thread (below) http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...c=69062&st=166# -Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Semi stupid question to ask here. But um...what cart type do I need to specify in the rom file to make this work in Emu7800? This has become my new favorite Emu, provided I know what cart types to choose when trying to get a new homebrew to work. All of Kens work using the same kind, but I can't get Frogger to come up that way. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Frogger is a standard 48K game. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 Semi stupid question to ask here. But um...what cart type do I need to specify in the rom file to make this work in Emu7800? This has become my new favorite Emu, provided I know what cart types to choose when trying to get a new homebrew to work. All of Kens work using the same kind, but I can't get Frogger to come up that way. Any ideas? 871456[/snapback] Don’t bother trying frogger on emu7800 the emu doesn’t handle the CTRL in 320 modes correctly.I wrote a mail to Mike Murphy since it is only a small change he maybe will release a new version soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy2600 Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Heres a updated Konami label art of Frogger:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 anyway, Schmutzpuppe: can you post any screenshots. I have a 7800 emulator, but it's still very buggy....can someone give me a link to a good 7800 emulator (for Windows ME)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Tried it out on the CC2 - awesome! When that Pokey sound is there it'll be perfect. Nice work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 anyway, Schmutzpuppe: can you post any screenshots. I have a 7800 emulator, but it's still very buggy....can someone give me a link to a good 7800 emulator (for Windows ME)? 890815[/snapback] Hi Mux, you should try this one: https://home.comcast.net/~gscottstanton/ MESS also works good only EMU7800 doesn't handle frogger correctly. Tried it out on the CC2 - awesome! When that Pokey sound is there it'll be perfect. Nice work 890854[/snapback] Maybe I will upload a new version with a little bit pokey support later today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Here is an updated version with little pokey support. frogger.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdub_bobby Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Here is an updated version with little pokey support. 891109[/snapback] Wow! Sounds great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I'll have to second the "Wow"! It was my literal expression when I played it. It sounds fantastic. I really wish Pokey sound was standard on all of the 7800 games. It makes such a great difference. Not to overlook all the other additions to the release, either. Great stuff all around. Keep up the fantastic work! -Trebor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 (edited) I get no sound at all on my CC2. But the game plays fine. Yes, I have a pokey. I also get no sound using the Prosystem emu and the .BIN file. I do get sound in MESS with the .a78 file though. Also - the file banking scheme in the CC2 seems to have changed. Edited July 13, 2005 by Danno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 I get no sound at all on my CC2. But the game plays fine. Yes, I have a pokey. I also get no sound using the Prosystem emu and the .BIN file. I do get sound in MESS with the .a78 file though. Also - the file banking scheme in the CC2 seems to have changed. 891181[/snapback] I have to admid that I didn't test it with a CC2 only Prosystem and MESS (and only the .A78 file). At the moment I have no idea why it didn't work with CC2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmutzpuppe Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 (edited) This .bin file now works on Prosystem Emu. Haven't had the chance to check it on CC2 but I think it will also work. FROGGER.zip Edited July 14, 2005 by Schmutzpuppe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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