NO EXCUSE for not buying a Flashback 2.0

[JB]

Idea: Skip the cart slot.

Dump and reverse-engineer the onboard ROM format, burn an EPROM with your choice of games, and voila!

...

Oooh, socket it and you can have a bunch of 40-game chips to swap. Then raise the socket out and you have a bunch of ITTY-BITTY 40-game cartridges!

Edited May 5, 2005 by JB

[Rob Mitchell]

I look forward to hacking it .. and seeing what features I can add to it.

 

And I can use it in hotel rooms where ever work sends me!

 

Rob Mitchell, Atlanta, GA

[+kisrael]

Does AtariAge have a stake in this?

 

I'm just bitter FlapPing didn't get included :-P

 

(and/or that I didn't feel I was up for "Arcade Pong")

[sidcrowe]

"I'd be much more interested in a new 7800. 7800's are much, much less common and cost more to buy on Ebay. I can easily find and buy cheap 2600's all the time."

 

There won't be a chance of a new 7800 if this doesn't sell.

 

You can find cheap ones, yeah, but how about a new one for such a small price?

 

"We're talking the same Atari that forced some great games and hacks to no longer be available in the AA store, like Castle Crisis and others? The same Atari that's hampering the development of Adventure 2, or at least the name (oops..."The quest for the Golden Chalice")"

 

Well.........I guess they took an interest and bought something

 

"They made something great many years ago. I already own it."

 

Then why not give up on all this "community" stuff? I'm not suggesting it–that would be rude. I'm just asking

 

"Does AtariAge have a stake in this?"

 

I hope they do. They deserve it

 

Nobody has convinced me against this yet. That's just me

Edited May 5, 2005 by sidcrowe

[figgler]

This is so good that even if you already have all the games in your collection you should buy it anyway and give it away as a gift to reward Curt and Atariage and the original programmers and the entire Atari community. I'm gonna buy it......

 

 

 

 

I'm in. I'll admit that I voted "maybe" in the Weekly Poll, but I've decided. It isn't going to be perfect and satisfy everyone, but it is surely looking like the best X-in-one console yet, with some true Atari lovers behind it. And you know, it'll be nice to buy an ample gaming machine that's a one shot deal and won't cost me more $ later in software

[sidcrowe]

"I'm in."

 

(Sid Crowe whispers to himself)

 

"That's one American dollar for me, 2 for Curt, 2 for Atariage..."

 

Ha ha. Just kidding

 

What if the economy got screwed up later? Buy one of these while you can.

 

Annnnnd........what if they made a monster FB3 with a giant ton of games? Won't happen if you don't buy this one.

 

Homebrew hopes? Gotta support this, then.

[Major_Havoc]

......SO WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE FOR NOT BUYING IT           

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What... are they paying you to be a walking marketing commercial? Why do you care

 

Just go buy your own.

[sega saturn x]

You know damndest thing i could have sworn i already own the flippin thing! Only in my wacky version i can play thousands of games not just 40 and get this i can use a genesis controller! I dont even need to mod it to play all the games i want AMAZING. Quick call rippleys i think i own some kind of super rare console. I see no reason to waist 30 dollars on a system i already have only mines better.

[sidcrowe]

"What... are they paying you to be a walking marketing commercial? Why do you care"

 

No, I just love Atari. No way you're gonna make me feel silly on this website for that.

 

"Just go buy your own."

 

Just play your games and don't write anything, then. I don't mean that seriously, but jeez? I don't get it. Why say something like that?

 

Somebody gimme an excuse.

[sidcrowe]

" I see no reason to waist 30 dollars on a system i already have only mines better."

 

It's not a waste. People worked hard. They deserve a sale. How is it any more of a "waste" than all the other games you have? It's dirt cheap, plus you get a few new games you don't have. How much did you pay for Pac Man back in the day? How about for the 2 sticks you get to back up your old ones?

 

30 bones, man.

[+Cobra Kai]

Well, it won't get strong if we don't help it   

I don't care about French Atari. The real Atari had their chance at redemption, and they blew it 10 years ago. French Atari is trying to sell me a haircut when I don't have any hair.

 

 

Not interested in homebrews? The idea that people could cook up new games? I guess this FB2 purchase sorta defines one's feelings about the Atari community.

 

You're either passive or active. It takes money to keep this website up, and it took work to produce the FB2. This unit is inexpensive.

 

It's called the free market, learn about it. And how dare you accuse people you don't even know, who've been here longer than you, of not supporting AA. I don't buy 2600 homebrews but I have purchased a few Jag games and 5200 repros when they were available.

I haven't heard anything so far that can beat IMO that you could give it as a gift or donate it to somebody who would like it. I like the idea of Atari being solvent. What does it cost me? A few lousy bucks    :/

I'm glad you are happy spending your own money on something you want. See, you do know a little about the free market.

 

Unless you're broke, the excuse isn't good enough for me. But that's just me.

I love it when the communist in people comes out, it makes me giggle.

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Edited May 5, 2005 by Gunstarhero

[Room 34]

"this may be a dumb question, but will it be ale to play old atari carts? just wondering, i am gonna buy one either way, cause its looks awesome."

 

I'm not much of a gearhead, but I have enough sense to FOLLOW the ones who ARE.

 

Apparently, there are some "solder points" inside which will allow you to do that with a bit of mucking around. Buy it 

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So... in other words, you can't put carts in it unless you take it apart and "muck around" a bit?

 

Why was it done this way?

[sega saturn x]

" I see no reason to waist 30 dollars on a system i already have only mines better."

 

It's not a waste. People worked hard. They deserve a sale. How is it any more of a "waste" than all the other games you have? It's dirt cheap, plus you get a few new games you don't have. How much did you pay for Pac Man back in the day? How about for the 2 sticks you get to back up your old ones?

 

30 bones, man.

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Im sure the actors (LOL) that made corpse killer worked hard to it dosent mean they dont suck. And i didnt know 30 dollars was dirt cheap i think 30 dollars on a systems I DONT NEED is a lot of money. Im not really buying a brand new system im buying a lame version of a sytems i hardly play in the first place. For the sake of arguement here are some things i could do with the 30 dollars i woudl enjoy far more then the flash back v.2.

6 genesis games

30 2600 games

2 tool cd's

a new genesis

the segata sanshiro game

a really nice lunch

a good friday the 13 movie if one existed

yoshi touch and go

a 7800 or 5200

a game gear

2 classic nes series games

See with all of those options i would be a sucker not to not buy the flashback v2.

[JB]

"this may be a dumb question, but will it be ale to play old atari carts? just wondering, i am gonna buy one either way, cause its looks awesome."

 

I'm not much of a gearhead, but I have enough sense to FOLLOW the ones who ARE.

 

Apparently, there are some "solder points" inside which will allow you to do that with a bit of mucking around. Buy it 

849491[/snapback]

 

So... in other words, you can't put carts in it unless you take it apart and "muck around" a bit?

 

Why was it done this way?

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It's been run over in the discussion thread.

 

Basically:

Parts cost money.

Dun wanna deal with tech support on dirty carts that've been in someone's attic for 2 decades.

[Room 34]

It's been run over in the discussion thread.

 

Basically:

Parts cost money.

Dun wanna deal with tech support on dirty carts that've been in someone's attic for 2 decades.

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I suppose that makes sense. I just can't get myself all that excited over this. Of course, I wouldn't get that excited if it did have a cart port anyway. If there weren't a hundred real 2600s up for sale on eBay at any given moment, maybe I'd feel differently...

[JB]

It's been run over in the discussion thread.

 

Basically:

Parts cost money.

Dun wanna deal with tech support on dirty carts that've been in someone's attic for 2 decades.

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I suppose that makes sense. I just can't get myself all that excited over this. Of course, I wouldn't get that excited if it did have a cart port anyway. If there weren't a hundred real 2600s up for sale on eBay at any given moment, maybe I'd feel differently...

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But this IS a real 2600.

Just not a vintage one.

[sega saturn x]

Or a user friendly one

[Room 34]

But this IS a real 2600.

Just not a vintage one.

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Right... well if it's all on a chip (how big is the chip?) then what I'd really like is a 2600 portable. That I would buy. Especially if it had flash ROM so you wouldn't have to lug the games around.

 

Then again, I can just play Activision Anthology on my GBA. I'd rather have Infogrames release a collection of Atari-brand 2600 games for the GBA (or GameCube... something I own!) than this.

 

I'll shut up now.

[ATARIeric]

I will get one just to mod it to work with carts since it will be cheap enough. Now if there is going to be a FB3.0 with a USB port + DB9 ports for controllers and cart port designed in it or even if you still need to solder in a cart port, then maybe i would get a lil excited with the 3.0 once i know what the usb port would be for

[inextremis staple]

Why am I not going to buy it?

 

I already have a 2600. My gramma's from way back in the day, a heavy 6er. It plays my 100+ games b-e-a-utifully. I can use that $30 on something else, too. I can buy anywhere up to 120 new Atari carts with that (though that'd be mostly commons I already have). I could pay part of my rent for next year. A few good CDs. Plenty of other useful stuff out there that I could buy. I have a 2600 and I don't think it's going kaput on me any time soon.

 

The last reason I'm not buying it is b/c I don't want to support this "Atari." It's just a re-hashing of the games I already own. You say they worked hard to bring this to us. They put a few roms that other people programmed years ago into a moulde. Big woop. I dunno, I just really don't see the need for all this hoopla when most of the people on here do indeed love the 2600 and like the real deal. I know I prefer that over this 40-in-1 thing.

 

is

[JB]

But this IS a real 2600.

Just not a vintage one.

849614[/snapback]

Right... well if it's all on a chip (how big is the chip?) then what I'd really like is a 2600 portable. That I would buy. Especially if it had flash ROM so you wouldn't have to lug the games around.

Oh yeah... that'd be REALLY nice.

</no_sarcasm_at_all_I_swear>

 

The entire system is portable sized already. Just needs an LCD and some integrated controls.

 

I'd rather have Infogrames release a collection of Atari-brand 2600 games for the GBA (or GameCube... something I own!) than this.

They've done it on the PC. Activision: 80 Classic Games. While some of the choices are... questionable(Basic Programming?), and 18 of them are arcade games, it's still a fairly good package IMO.

...

Unless you're on a Mac.

[Rockin' Kat]

In addition to my 2600 and the over 100 games I have for it, I also have an Atari 7800 with S-video and audio out, and a CuttleCart2. I also have no money to spare because goodwill keeps taking it away from me. There is never not an excuse to not get something.

[Room 34]

They've done it on the PC. Activision: 80 Classic Games. While some of the choices are... questionable(Basic Programming?), and 18 of them are arcade games, it's still a fairly good package IMO.

...

Unless you're on a Mac.

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Yes, I'm on a Mac. But what's the point on a PC (or a Mac)? I can just play an emulator.

 

But I digress.

[JB]

They've done it on the PC. Activision: 80 Classic Games. While some of the choices are... questionable(Basic Programming?), and 18 of them are arcade games, it's still a fairly good package IMO.

...

Unless you're on a Mac.

849635[/snapback]

Yes, I'm on a Mac. But what's the point on a PC (or a Mac)? I can just play an emulator.

 

But I digress.

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Owning Quadrun legally for less than a hundred bucks?

 

 

And personally, I don't particularly like these compilations on consoles.

Aside from not being happy with recent console controllers, things like paddles and trackballs just don't come across very well. A PC trackball works a lot better for both tasks, IMO. And I've got a gamepad I genuinely like for joystick-based stuff(though it's no substitute for a proper stick).

Edited May 5, 2005 by JB

[sidcrowe]

"Im sure the actors (LOL) that made corpse killer worked hard to it dosent mean they dont suck."

 

THere's lots of crap out there that people worked hard on, like the movie Heaven's Gate. You think the FB2 sucks? Really?

 

"And i didnt know 30 dollars was dirt cheap"

 

Internet, phone, PC, programs...30 bucks would break you for REAL?

 

" I don't care about French Atari. The real Atari had their chance at redemption, and they blew it 10 years ago. French Atari is trying to sell me a haircut when I don't have any hair."

 

Who knows what may happen? The FB2 is a step and an offering in the right direction.

 

"It's called the free market, learn about it."

 

Yes, and if you don't support a project like this in the market, you're not getting anything more than the rusting old stuff you can find on Ebay.

 

"And how dare you accuse people you don't even know, who've been here longer than you, of not supporting AA."

 

Show me where I said that. You can support AA just by offfering a hit. The FB2 is project you can own. It will strengthen the whole Atari community if you buy it. How many products of this kind are produced? How much of a Star Wars fan are you if you don't attend the new movie?

 

"I don't buy 2600 homebrews"

 

Why not? I know it's a drag to mail order things. You can get this at your local retail outlet. Why you wouldn't want to reward Atari with a sale for this project...well, I don't know

 

"I'm glad you are happy spending your own money on something you want. See, you do know a little about the free market."

 

It would STILL make a nice gift. You're forcing me here: Don't you have some friends to give it to as a gift?

 

"I love it when the communist in people comes out, it makes me giggle."

 

I don't know what you mean. Unless you're BROKE, like I said, I can't get why you'd say "no." If anything, I'm being a capitalist. You're gonna piss away 30 bucks soon anyhow. If you're an Atari fan, the low price of this thing makes it so easy to have.

 

30 bucks, and you get 2 NEW sticks and some games you never had before. What kind of trouble do you have to go throguh on Ebay to get two USED sticks?

 

It's a great deal. Buy it