yuppicide Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 (edited) Check this thing out.. looks pretty cool. Has dual slots to accept NES or Famicom games.. also has built in wireless 2.4Ghz controller support. http://www.playmessiah.com/onlinestore/index.htm .... they also have a wireless 2600 joystick coming! Edited May 24, 2005 by yuppicide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinball22 Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Oooh. I want one. And some of the wireless controllers, too, for both NES and SNES. *checks bank account* *sighs* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intvgene Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 It definitely looks interesting. I hope that they can ship them out in September. The last thing I'd want to see is Nintendo stepping in and stopping them or something. But, the machine looks very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 It definitely looks interesting. I hope that they can ship them out in September. The last thing I'd want to see is Nintendo stepping in and stopping them or something. But, the machine looks very nice! 860887[/snapback] You make a good point! Id hate to send my money in now just to find out nintendo is suing them and all the monies that was sent in for the unit is now being used for legal battles, I myself would wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip_Cannon Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 What's this about "new rumble support?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 (edited) What's this about "new rumble support?" 860948[/snapback] My bet? Controller shakes with audio output. Personally, I'm more interested in the twin cart slots. Looks like it has a slot on top for FamiCom carts and one up front for NES carts. Screw adapters! Edited May 24, 2005 by JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 What's this about "new rumble support?" 860948[/snapback] Cool! I just noticed that rumble support too. I wonder if thats for future games made, like homebrew authors ? I know nothing about that or was there games that had rumble features ? I would hate for the system to rumble it self! Is it legal for companies to make aftermarket systems even when not having any roms in them ? Must they get permission first from NES ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfield Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I doubt Nintendo would have any legal ground to pursue them on; Nintendo's been going after all those all-in-one consoles because of the presence of ROMs, not because of the hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I doubt Nintendo would have any legal ground to pursue them on; Nintendo's been going after all those all-in-one consoles because of the presence of ROMs, not because of the hardware. 860969[/snapback] Gotcha! Im gonna pass on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Is it legal for companies to make aftermarket systems even when not having any roms in them ? Must they get permission first from NES ? 860962[/snapback] Nah. NES patents have long expired. Nintendo wouldn't have a leg to stand on. ... Except maybe copyright on the design. That looks suspiciously close to the original NES case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Is it legal for companies to make aftermarket systems even when not having any roms in them ? Must they get permission first from NES ? 860962[/snapback] Nah. NES patents have long expired. Nintendo wouldn't have a leg to stand on. ... Except maybe copyright on the design. That looks suspiciously close to the original NES case. 861159[/snapback] I do like the design, It is a good look for the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsoper Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 (edited) I'd like it better if it had s-video out and had a bare top so another console could be put on top. Why not do the whole enchilada while you're changing so much already? Edited May 24, 2005 by jsoper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 (edited) Is it legal for companies to make aftermarket systems even when not having any roms in them ? Must they get permission first from NES ? 860962[/snapback] Nah. NES patents have long expired. Nintendo wouldn't have a leg to stand on. ... Except maybe copyright on the design. That looks suspiciously close to the original NES case. 861159[/snapback] I do like the design, It is a good look for the product. 861160[/snapback] Indeed. Make it a little shorter and brighten the colors a bit, and the NES is a darn nice-looking system. Just saying Nintendo may find it a bit too close to their own copyrighted design for comfort. I'd like it better if it had s-video out and had a bare top so another console could be put on top. Why not do the whole enchilada while you're changing so much already? 861177[/snapback] I agree. But I think the built-in FamiCom adapter is a nice feature too. So I could go either way. Hmmm... looks a fair bit smaller than the old design in all 3 dimensions. Not sure if it's really big enough for setting stuff on anymore. I know it won't hold the 2600 I've got sitting on my current NES. Edited May 24, 2005 by JB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsoper Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Hmmm... looks a fair bit smaller than the old design in all 3 dimensions. Not sure if it's really big enough for setting stuff on anymore. I know it won't hold the 2600 I've got sitting on my current NES. 861189[/snapback] Heh-heh put a Flashback 2 with a cart connector on top Then you can put it next to a Gamecube with a Gameboy player and have both sit on a Playstation2. 5000+ games should keep one busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I'm wondering about the 'rumble support' the controllers are supposed to have. I'm wondering if it's going to be like a Pelikan made NES-in-a-joypad that I bought at Wal-Mart that had all the Color Dreams games in it. Whenever you pushed the A button, a rumble motor went off. It was a really cheap, cheesy way to add vibration effects to games. It kind of worked, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Hmmm... looks a fair bit smaller than the old design in all 3 dimensions. Not sure if it's really big enough for setting stuff on anymore. I know it won't hold the 2600 I've got sitting on my current NES. 861189[/snapback] Heh-heh put a Flashback 2 with a cart connector on top Then you can put it next to a Gamecube with a Gameboy player and have both sit on a Playstation2. 5000+ games should keep one busy. 861199[/snapback] Oooohhhh... you have GOOD IDEAS! I'm wondering about the 'rumble support' the controllers are supposed to have. I'm wondering if it's going to be like a Pelikan made NES-in-a-joypad that I bought at Wal-Mart that had all the Color Dreams games in it. Whenever you pushed the A button, a rumble motor went off. It was a really cheap, cheesy way to add vibration effects to games. It kind of worked, though. 861200[/snapback] That'd pr'ly work better than basing it on the audio output, which was done on a 3rd-party NES pad if I recall(I KNOW it was done on some GBColor and NeoGeo Pocket accessories). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuppicide Posted May 25, 2005 Author Share Posted May 25, 2005 I wish they had the NES cartridge slot on top as well. Oh well. I'm still probably gonna get one. I'll pass on the limited edition in a lunch box wireless controllers for $60 tho. Heh the system cost that much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Hierophant Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 (edited) This looks to be a possible NES replacement. However, this is based on the Neo-Fami, which uses a NES on a Chip. Don't expect a truly accurate NES or the ability to utilize Famicom cartridge based sound chips. Those wireless controllers have what appears to me to be a particularly useless D-Pad, designed more for comfort than accuracy. I wouldn't be able to beat Contra with anything less than 30 men with that thing. Someone needs to invent a transmitter small enough so that it could fit inside a NES pad (and use rechargeable batteries.) Edited May 25, 2005 by Great Hierophant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscott27 Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 i think the ultimate in bad rumble has to be those interact vests and seat covers, you know the cheesy looking things that promise to let you feel every hit, kick and punch in the game! yeah that sounds like fun. they all worked off audio too, i always imagined some poor kid sitting there getting his butt kicked by the opening music. i have such contempt for these devices i passed on boxed ones for $5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 This looks to be a possible NES replacement. However, this is based on the Neo-Fami, which uses a NES on a Chip. Don't expect a truly accurate NES or the ability to utilize Famicom cartridge based sound chips. Those wireless controllers have what appears to me to be a particularly useless D-Pad, designed more for comfort than accuracy. I wouldn't be able to beat Contra with anything less than 30 men with that thing. Someone needs to invent a transmitter small enough so that it could fit inside a NES pad (and use rechargeable batteries.) 861639[/snapback] I could never beat Contra with anything, so it doesn't matter. But yah, if those are comfortable and inaccurate, they'll go flying. And I'll spare everyone my opinion on the best NES controllers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad2600 Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 That looks very nice! I want it! I need a better way to play my Famicom carts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendon Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 (edited) Was into Rhino Video Games today and they had THESE in the store for sale at $49.99. It comes with an adapter that allows you to play Famicon games. Box is about the same size as a Flashback box. Couldn't open one to see the unit itself but if I find a few extra $$$ laying around, I might pick one up. They look interesting and are much cheaper than an offical NES top loader on eBay. Mendon Edited May 25, 2005 by Mendon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATARIeric Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Was into Rhino Video Games today and they had THESE in the store for sale at $49.99. It comes with an adapter that allows you to play Famicon games. Box is about the same size as a Flashback box. Couldn't open one to see the unit itself but if I find a few extra $$$ laying around, I might pick one up. They look interesting and are much cheaper than an offical NES top loader on eBay. Mendon 861832[/snapback] The silver one looks cool for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuppicide Posted May 26, 2005 Author Share Posted May 26, 2005 Yeah, that's the Neo Fami. It's pretty common. That's the old version. The new version you can play USA games without the adapter and you can also use ANY NES controller. The one you see there you can only use the controller that came with it. Was into Rhino Video Games today and they had THESE in the store for sale at $49.99. It comes with an adapter that allows you to play Famicon games. Box is about the same size as a Flashback box. Couldn't open one to see the unit itself but if I find a few extra $$$ laying around, I might pick one up. They look interesting and are much cheaper than an offical NES top loader on eBay. Mendon 861832[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagasian Posted May 31, 2005 Share Posted May 31, 2005 (edited) I own Messiah's wireless SNES controller. Everything about the controller is great except the D-pad. Useless is a pretty good description of the D-pad. Hopefully they consider using the traditional "plus" D-pad in a future revision as I liked the 2.4Ghz wireless with its no lag, long range, and great battery life. With regards to the use of a crappy Neofami NES-on-a-chip, all I have to ask is: why bother? You would be better off with a good software emulator, as far as accuracy of audio, video, and game compatibility goes. It will be interesting to see how many games are not compatible with Messiah's NES. Hopefully they use a more accurate NES-on-a-chip than the one in the Neofamis. In the long run, you are still best off with an inexpensive refurbished toaster NES or an AV Famicom. I just pulled my toaster NES out of the closet it was in for the past few years, and before putting a game in, I just dipped a cotton swab in rubbing alcohol and "brushed the teeth" of my game cart until they were golden. The game worked on the first try after that, and my NES is still using its original 72-pin connector with no refurbishing. Solution: Avoid crappy clones and just clean your carts. Yes they do get dirty after 20 years. Tell me how well an uncleaned PC would run in 20 years? Edited May 31, 2005 by Jagasian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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