Blackjack #1 Posted June 5, 2005 Can you easily create backups and play them on a Dreamcast or does the machine have to be mod chipped like a playstation? I can play my Sega Genesis CD backups no problem, and I just wondered if I could do the same on a Dreamcast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+batari #2 Posted June 5, 2005 Can you easily create backups and play them on a Dreamcast or does the machine have to be mod chipped like a playstation? I can play my Sega Genesis CD backups no problem, and I just wondered if I could do the same on a Dreamcast. 868192[/snapback] No modding required whatsoever. I use Nero to make backups and it works every time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #3 Posted June 5, 2005 Wonderful, thanks for the quick reply Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luigi301 #4 Posted June 5, 2005 I heard some later models had region, but not most of the Dreamcasts out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keilbaca #5 Posted June 5, 2005 I heard some later models had region, but not most of the Dreamcasts out there. 868263[/snapback] To clarify some things. The dreamcast, always had region codes. The later models, only the most recent ones before they went bankrupt, they did not play cd's at all. Nada, period, none. Thats why it doesnt work with the new ones. Depends on making backups. If you mean burning a downloaded image (ILLEGAL!!), then its just burning to CD. However, if you mean backing up your own game, that gets quite complicated. I dont know the full procedure, but I do know you need a special boot disk, a modem (this will take all day, literally to copy all the info) or a broadband adapter (this will do it in a few hours), and telnet (I think). Basically, you do this. Boot with special disk. Swap with real game. Telnet into dreamcast, copy all the data to your computer. From there, you can make a bootable disk (if i get a non-bootable disk, i can make it bootable), and it will work with your dreamcast. Or, you can just burn the data straight to a cd-r then use a boot disk to boot it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Monkey #6 Posted June 5, 2005 I heard some later models had region, but not most of the Dreamcasts out there. 868263[/snapback] All Dreamcasts have region coding. You would have to use a swap disc or a mod chip to play games from other regions. On the other hand, all DC's boot CDr's. There is a work-around for the late models. You cannot back up you GDroms with Nero, or any other PC application - because your PC CD/DVD drive cannot read the GD portion of the disc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Classic Pac #7 Posted June 5, 2005 I agree pirating anything is illegal, but for the Dreamcast? Sega doesn't even care any more, why I even heard it was one of their own programmers who posted Dreamcast version of Quake on DCemulation.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keilbaca #8 Posted June 5, 2005 I agree pirating anything is illegal, but for the Dreamcast? Sega doesn't even care any more, why I even heard it was one of their own programmers who posted Dreamcast version of Quake on DCemulation.com 868321[/snapback] You're right, for the most part Sega doesn't care. I thought they would have gotten mad about like pirating Phantasy Star or Sonic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+batari #9 Posted June 6, 2005 I heard some later models had region, but not most of the Dreamcasts out there. 868263[/snapback] All Dreamcasts have region coding. You would have to use a swap disc or a mod chip to play games from other regions. On the other hand, all DC's boot CDr's. There is a work-around for the late models. You cannot back up you GDroms with Nero, or any other PC application - because your PC CD/DVD drive cannot read the GD portion of the disc. 868281[/snapback] I did copy some original DC discs with Nero. IIRC, Nero gave me some strange warnings, but the games booted just fine without having to do anything special. Did I just get lucky then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackjack #10 Posted June 6, 2005 So it sounds like I may need to look for a certain model of DC if I want to play backups? I seek knowledge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gulag picture radio #11 Posted June 6, 2005 I've been through a whole pile of Dreamcasts, and they all work with CD-R's. I got one of the consoles the CHristmas that they were $50 and had no problem. Since then I've found a number of them here and there, and they've all worked just fine. There are reports of those units that dont work with burned discs, but I think that those are in the minority. It's a great system, so I hope that you find one soon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keilbaca #12 Posted June 6, 2005 I heard some later models had region, but not most of the Dreamcasts out there. 868263[/snapback] All Dreamcasts have region coding. You would have to use a swap disc or a mod chip to play games from other regions. On the other hand, all DC's boot CDr's. There is a work-around for the late models. You cannot back up you GDroms with Nero, or any other PC application - because your PC CD/DVD drive cannot read the GD portion of the disc. 868281[/snapback] I did copy some original DC discs with Nero. IIRC, Nero gave me some strange warnings, but the games booted just fine without having to do anything special. Did I just get lucky then? 868790[/snapback] Might have. Going to have to try that when I get my external dvd burner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesusc #13 Posted June 6, 2005 supposedly, any DC manufactured after novermber 2000 won't boot from a CD. the manufacture date is written on the bottom of the unit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keilbaca #14 Posted June 6, 2005 not too many got made after november 2000 because that was really close to the death of the DC, so i say about 90% of the systems play backups fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Monkey #15 Posted June 6, 2005 supposedly, any DC manufactured after novermber 2000 won't boot from a CD.the manufacture date is written on the bottom of the unit. 869185[/snapback] http://www.dcemulation.com/article-supported.htm All DC's will boot CDr's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jesusc #16 Posted June 6, 2005 (edited) that article showed me june 2000 will, december 2000 will not, that kinda supports what I mentioned earlier. edit:never mind, i read further down the page. However; it shows that at one time, it was thought that newer models wouldn't work. Since i've no interest in DC emulation or burning games, I apologize for working off of four and a half year old knowledge. Edited June 6, 2005 by jesusc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeybastard #17 Posted June 6, 2005 I have 2 from the last $50 batch and both work with the CD-Rs I made for emulation as well as playing music CD-Rs. The only thing I can say though is they only worked when I used Nero, none of the other burner programs could make a bootable disc for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost Monkey #18 Posted June 6, 2005 that article showed me june 2000 will, december 2000 will not, that kinda supports what I mentioned earlier. edit:never mind, i read further down the page. However; it shows that at one time, it was thought that newer models wouldn't work. Since i've no interest in DC emulation or burning games, I apologize for working off of four and a half year old knowledge. 869201[/snapback] I knew I had seen the info somewhere, but it took me looking at several sites before I found this particular chart - I was starting to doubt it myself as most of the DC "scene" sites" still list the newer DC's as incompatible... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgo #19 Posted June 10, 2005 Here's most of the answers you're looking for http://dreamlover.tecbox.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites