Cybertech S-Video Mod

[JackFlack]

Are these for sale any where still?

[JackFlack]

Anyone have one for sale or know where I can pick one up?

 

 

Are these for sale any where still?

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[DominiRican05]

I've been wondering about that myself since it's no longer listed anywhere on atari2600.com. I would try contacting their customer support, I know they were supposed to get a whole new supply back in January. If you find anything out let me know.

[JackFlack]

Contacted www.atari2600.com twice now, with no reply.

 

 

I've been wondering about that myself since it's no longer listed anywhere on atari2600.com.  I would try contacting their customer support, I know they were supposed to get a whole new supply back in January.  If you find anything out let me know. 

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Edited July 6, 2005 by JackFlack

[+Nathan Strum]

If Atari2600.com won't carry it anymore, maybe it's something AtariAge could sell?

 

It's too good a mod to just go off the market.

[+SpiceWare]

It's too good a mod to just go off the market.

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Agreed - I get an excellent picture with mine(photo in 2nd post in this thread)

[DominiRican05]

It's too good a mod to just go off the market.

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Agreed - I get an excellent picture with mine(photo in 2nd post in this thread)

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I contacted them today, so let's see if I have better luck. In the meantime this place is going to be offering 2600 A/V mods, although I have no clue as to the quality: www.8bitdomain.com

[jsoper]

Contacted  www.atari2600.com  twice now, with no reply.

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There seems to be a curse on classic gaming that most everyone who offers modified hardware for sale never produces it or does for awhile then stops responding. A few years ago an AAer named Junie shipped controllers for a few months then disappeared still holding people's money. In the classic gaming dark ages there was one gent who took prepayments on a 2600 game called the Core which never got finished, I think he started the bad streak.

 

It also seems like the more they brag, the more likely they are to flake. There's one poster lately who's been crowing a lot about console mods that I think may take that route. Chad Schell seems the one most on the ball.

[DominiRican05]

Here's our answer, it seems that for the time being Atari2600.com is out of Cybertech S-Video cards:

 

https://www.atari2600.com/cgi-bin/cp/cp-app...g=prod&ref=6196

[Albert]

I contacted them today, so let's see if I have better luck.  In the meantime this place is going to be offering 2600 A/V mods, although I have no clue as to the quality: www.8bitdomain.com

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I have three of 8bitdomain's 5200 mods and they are great, so hopefully their 2600 mod will be no different. They also have a 7800 mod out now, which I haven't tried yet.

 

..Al

[Albert]

There seems to be a curse on classic gaming that most everyone who offers modified hardware for sale never produces it or does for awhile then stops responding.  A few years ago an AAer named Junie shipped controllers for a few months then disappeared still holding people's money.  In the classic gaming dark ages there was one gent who took prepayments on a 2600 game called the Core which never got finished, I think he started the bad streak. 

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Yeah, I lost a nice chunk of change on the whole Junies mess. I paid him to make a large batch of controllers to sell at CGE in 2002 (I believe) and he never came through, and shortly after that he vanished. I never spent a lot of time trying to track him down, although I should have. At least the guy who did the Core eventually refunded everyone's money.

 

..Al

[DominiRican05]

Atari2600.com did contact me and they said that as of right now they have no firm plans of offering the Cybertech S-Video card anytime in the near future.

[keilbaca]

There's one poster lately who's been crowing a lot about console mods that I think may take that route.

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I just want to help the community...

[jsoper]

There's one poster lately who's been crowing a lot about console mods that I think may take that route.

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I just want to help the community...

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Hey Keilbaca, there's a very good chance I didn't mean you, but please help me keep that comment vague. Your work's good for the community.

[DominiRican05]

There's one poster lately who's been crowing a lot about console mods that I think may take that route.

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I just want to help the community...

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I've been talking with Keilbaca, and his mod has been greatly received by many members of the board. I hope to be the next customer.

[JackFlack]

Will I never got a reply back from Atari2600.com by my e-mails. I did see they posted here that they where out, except for one Jr. package. I just wanted the kit.

 

I guess I will wait for 8bitdomain. Maybr someone else can make the Cybertech model?

 

 

Anyone know what happened to the guy who made the Cybertech. I think Chris Wilkens was his name? I don't see any more psot by him??? Maybe he can shed some light on this???

[mos6507]

Will I never got a reply back from Atari2600.com by my e-mails. I did see they posted here that they where out, except for one Jr. package. I just wanted the kit.

 

I guess I will wait for 8bitdomain. Maybr someone else can make the Cybertech model?

 

 

Anyone know what happened to the guy who made the Cybertech. I think Chris Wilkens was his name? I don't see any more psot by him??? Maybe he can shed some light on this???

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Chris Wilkson.

 

He's still on Stellalist. I don't think he actually assembles the boards, though. He just came up with the design.

[cwilkson]

Will I never got a reply back from Atari2600.com by my e-mails. I did see they posted here that they where out, except for one Jr. package. I just wanted the kit.

 

I guess I will wait for 8bitdomain. Maybr someone else can make the Cybertech model?

 

 

Anyone know what happened to the guy who made the Cybertech. I think Chris Wilkens was his name? I don't see any more psot by him??? Maybe he can shed some light on this???

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Chris Wilkson.

 

He's still on Stellalist. I don't think he actually assembles the boards, though. He just came up with the design.

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Yeah, that's me. I've been hard to find lately what with both my father and my stepfather passing away in a 2 month span. Apologies to anyone needed to find me.

 

Wow. I just checked out the modded Jr. over at Atari2600.com. I'm trying to get in touch with them to get our arrangement going again. I tried to offer these through the Atariage store, but Albert didn't seem very interested in making it work. I'll try again when things settle down a little bit for me.

 

One of the problems with the CyberTech board is that the parts cost is *high*...over $20, IIRC. So retail costs are necessarily high. With royalty and retail markups it gets to be expensive. Though I think the 8bitdomain boards are $40, without the features of the CyberTech board.

 

Without the ability to trim brightness, contrast, or color saturation the cost goes down a lot...retail could maybe be brought under $30. What do people think? Is it worth a reducing the feature set to bring the cost down?

 

Let me know what you think.

-Chris

[+Nathan Strum]

Without the ability to trim brightness, contrast, or color saturation the cost goes down a lot...retail could maybe be brought under $30.  What do people think?  Is it worth a reducing the  feature set to bring the cost down?

 

First, I'm really sorry to hear of your recent losses Chris. I wish the best to you and your family.

 

As for the CyberTech mod, if the design of the mod was dialed in so it didn't need to be adjusted, I think $30 would be a great price. While I like the idea of having an adjustable mod, I doubt most people are going to be quite so fussy. If memory serves though, you've got a vectorscope now, so you could set the values more accurately. For my money, I'd rather buy a cheaper mod that was already calibrated, than spend more for one I might have to tweak.

[8bitdomain]

Will I never got a reply back from Atari2600.com by my e-mails. I did see they posted here that they where out, except for one Jr. package. I just wanted the kit.

 

I guess I will wait for 8bitdomain. Maybr someone else can make the Cybertech model?

 

 

Anyone know what happened to the guy who made the Cybertech. I think Chris Wilkens was his name? I don't see any more psot by him??? Maybe he can shed some light on this???

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Chris Wilkson.

 

He's still on Stellalist. I don't think he actually assembles the boards, though. He just came up with the design.

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Yeah, that's me. I've been hard to find lately what with both my father and my stepfather passing away in a 2 month span. Apologies to anyone needed to find me.

 

Wow. I just checked out the modded Jr. over at Atari2600.com. I'm trying to get in touch with them to get our arrangement going again. I tried to offer these through the Atariage store, but Albert didn't seem very interested in making it work. I'll try again when things settle down a little bit for me.

 

One of the problems with the CyberTech board is that the parts cost is *high*...over $20, IIRC. So retail costs are necessarily high. With royalty and retail markups it gets to be expensive. Though I think the 8bitdomain boards are $40, without the features of the CyberTech board.

 

Without the ability to trim brightness, contrast, or color saturation the cost goes down a lot...retail could maybe be brought under $30. What do people think? Is it worth a reducing the feature set to bring the cost down?

 

Let me know what you think.

-Chris

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The 8bitdomain 2600 video mods have all the features you could want, low price, smaller size, solderless install, stereo(2channel outputs), Composite & Svideo output, video out cable and more. I don't know why there is this constant need

for blinky lights and trimpots out the wazoo, they are simply not necessary.

[cwilkson]

The 8bitdomain 2600 video mods have all the features you could want, low price, smaller size, solderless install, stereo(2channel outputs), Composite & Svideo output, video out cable and more. I don't know why there is this constant need

for blinky lights and trimpots out the wazoo, they are simply not necessary.

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The CyberTech Video Card generates proper NTSC video. The board ships precalibrated to spec (with the apparent exception of Nathan's board, which had the chroma turned all the way up.) But the native 2600 signal is far from spec. The point of being able to adjust the 3 control vectors is so that someone used to the native 2600 display could adjust their machine to match what they're used to seeing. You can't adjust the TV, or else you'll have to adjust it and un-adjust it every time you use the 2600.

 

It's not necessary at all. But the CyberTech board was meant to be a professional racket video generator, within the scope of what the 2600 gives you. Yes, bells and whistles. But actually *useful* ones to the right person. Especially someone who has a studio rack that they're trying to patch into. It's very important to have black and color levels match when producing video. And sometimes, with a budget studio (i.e. with old, used student lab style equipment) you just can't get everything in spec alignment. So you have to tweak everything a little bit off spec. It's much better to be off spec and match, than have the signal jumping around from one source to another, because you can post correct it as long as it's consistant.

 

The reason I asked if people wanted that ability is because of the conflicting feedback I've received. I've gotten lots of feedback saying that it *is* useful. But I've also heard people say the board is too expensive. Part of that is due to sourcing theough Atari2600.com. You get what you pay for, but it is steep over there. I'm going to redesign to bring costs down. This would be the "consumer" version, probably with hardcoded control vectors. But I don't want to cut features that people really like. We'll see....

 

-Chris

[Joe Stella]

Yeah, that's me.  I've been hard to find lately what with both my father and my stepfather passing away in a 2 month span.  Apologies to anyone needed to find me.

 

Wow.  I just checked out the modded Jr. over at Atari2600.com.  I'm trying to get in touch with them to get our arrangement going again.  I tried to offer these through the Atariage store, but Albert didn't seem very interested in making it work.  I'll try again when things settle down a little bit for me.

 

One of the problems with the CyberTech board is that the parts cost is *high*...over $20, IIRC.  So retail costs are necessarily high.  With royalty and retail markups it gets to be expensive.  Though I think the 8bitdomain boards are $40, without the features of the CyberTech board.

 

Without the ability to trim brightness, contrast, or color saturation the cost goes down a lot...retail could maybe be brought under $30.  What do people think?  Is it worth a reducing the  feature set to bring the cost down?

 

Let me know what you think.

-Chris

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Chris-

 

I just wanted to say, thanks for the mod. This thread reminded me that I was still holding onto a pretty dusty kit from December of '03.. I installed it today, and man.. It just doesn't get any better. Crisp/clean s-video and stereo sound.

 

If you came out with a 'fixed' mod with the same output quality that was significantly less expensive than the cybertech, I'd be first in line. By the same token, I'd also be down for the cybertech. How many people really need to adjust their boards? I dunno. I wouldn't touch mine if I didn't need to, so the pots aren't a huge deal for me (but I do like having the option).

 

Thanks again.