FB3...

[+Cafeman]

Trying to browse thru this gigantic thread, I still can't tell what the FP3 is. Is it 2600 ? 7800/2600? 5200/A8? Or hasn't this been revealed? It seems like most of the talk here is conjecture but I could be missing the obvious. I love the FB2 - the idea, the execution, and the quality. Only wish more games had been in it. I even love the frickin' box. So give a guy a hand here please and somebody post a brief synopsis of what is known and planned? Thanks.

[aftermac]

Trying to browse thru this gigantic thread, I still can't tell what the FP3 is. Is it 2600 ? 7800/2600? 5200/A8? Or hasn't this been revealed? It seems like most of the talk here is conjecture but I could be missing the obvious. I love the FB2 - the idea, the execution, and the quality. Only wish more games had been in it. I even love the frickin' box. So give a guy a hand here please and somebody post a brief synopsis of what is known and planned? Thanks.

 

Curt posted a picture of a portable 2600 somewhere on AA (I'm too lazy to look for it right now), that was most likely going to be the FB3. Hopefully, this project will still happen... I would be all over a portable 2600... Assuming it takes cartridges or allows me to add games on a flash card.

[Retro Rogue]

Curt posted a picture of a portable 2600 somewhere on AA (I'm too lazy to look for it right now), that was most likely going to be the FB3. Hopefully, this project will still happen... I would be all over a portable 2600... Assuming it takes cartridges or allows me to add games on a flash card.

 

 

No, that was the Flashback 2.5, it was never the 3.

[Gorf]

It's going to be released on December 21, 2012, at 11:11.

Nope. We'll be dead by then. The real date is October 28, 2011:

 

http://www.calleman.com/content/articles/e...ationcycles.htm

 

 

That article may bring up some strong arguments, but some theory's that I keep about December 21st 2012, is that NASA has said that some of the strongest solar flares in so many thousands of years is going to happen, one is that there might be a shift in the magnetic poles, and another is that starting somewhere around December 20th, the sun begins to get lower everyday. At noon on the 19th it might be at one spot in the sky(which it is there every day of the year), but starting on the 20th of December, at that one point in the day, it lowers some. The 22nd it is at it's lowest point of the year(the *sun*<-- the sun is *god*, the *sun* is *son*<-- the *son* of *god* *dies* on December 22nd)and slowly rises, until it is back to normal on the 25th of December(Christmas)<-- the day Jesus *son of god* was born.

 

On an ironic note, I was born on December 22nd, was supposed to be born on the 25th but was an induced labor

Also, if the world does end on December 21st, 2012, that means that I will die the day before I can legally drink.

 

 

 

The end of the AGE, not the world.....You watch too many(one is two many) Peter J. movies.

[Gorf]

Curt posted a picture of a portable 2600 somewhere on AA (I'm too lazy to look for it right now), that was most likely going to be the FB3. Hopefully, this project will still happen... I would be all over a portable 2600... Assuming it takes cartridges or allows me to add games on a flash card.

 

 

No, that was the Flashback 2.5, it was never the 3.

 

 

I think this stuff is a waste of time. Either come out with an all powerful new console with emulators

or so you can have the classics and the lastest game tech or dont bother at all.

 

The two flashbacks I bought collect dust.

 

Jaguar II chipset at a much higher clock (I've been told this is possible by FPGA guru's) would be enough

to handle any classic system emulation and still play games at the Wii level. Get that friggin VR add-on

ready and really bitchslap the Wii's wiimote advantage.

Edited February 19, 2009 by Gorf

[+pboland]

Curt posted a picture of a portable 2600 somewhere on AA (I'm too lazy to look for it right now), that was most likely going to be the FB3. Hopefully, this project will still happen... I would be all over a portable 2600... Assuming it takes cartridges or allows me to add games on a flash card.

 

 

No, that was the Flashback 2.5, it was never the 3.

 

 

I think this stuff is a waste of time. Either come out with an all powerful new console with emulators

or so you can have the classics and the lastest game tech or dont bother at all.

 

The two flashbacks I bought collect dust.

 

Jaguar II chipset at a much higher clock (I've been told this is possible by FPGA guru's) would be enough

to handle any classic system emulation and still play games at the Wii level. Get that friggin VR add-on

ready and really bitchslap the Wii's wiimote advantage.

Now that sounds like a good idea. Heck, the Jaguar II chipset already exists so there is no need to reinvent the wheel here. To be honest, I don't see that happening anymore than a FB3 though. (but it would be nice)

[awace]

Curt posted a picture of a portable 2600 somewhere on AA (I'm too lazy to look for it right now), that was most likely going to be the FB3. Hopefully, this project will still happen... I would be all over a portable 2600... Assuming it takes cartridges or allows me to add games on a flash card.

 

 

No, that was the Flashback 2.5, it was never the 3.

 

 

I think this stuff is a waste of time. Either come out with an all powerful new console with emulators

or so you can have the classics and the lastest game tech or dont bother at all.

 

The two flashbacks I bought collect dust.

 

Jaguar II chipset at a much higher clock (I've been told this is possible by FPGA guru's) would be enough

to handle any classic system emulation and still play games at the Wii level. Get that friggin VR add-on

ready and really bitchslap the Wii's wiimote advantage.

Now that sounds like a good idea. Heck, the Jaguar II chipset already exists so there is no need to reinvent the wheel here. To be honest, I don't see that happening anymore than a FB3 though. (but it would be nice)

yea I somewhere have some software that lets you use atari800.exe on a psp I dont have a playstation portble but

would think that would be suffiecent to suffice a atari fix to beable to play dkong on a protable system.

acroding to kurt v copyright contract w jaks pacific and the © owners he has to wait till it goes back to public domain again or they let him tell us how the flashback c-mos OS operating system kind of like awdflash.exe /D the d means dont erease the program the .bin file runs on just update the new stuff I dont see why some one dont just come out w a atari2600 cart w memmory stick build in and a usb plug on it or just a socket for a memmory stick that emulates a atari cartridge w some lcd device to let you choose some address like a basic stamp to choose witch game you want to run I see no reason you couldnt emulate a cart socket and since it comes EMPTY w no roms in it no one would care.

[Gorf]

Comeone dudes! Imagine an all in one Atari Classics console.

 

Give It one Jaguar Cart slot and two adapters.

 

One to handle 2600/7800 carts.

One for 8 bit/5200 carts.

 

Now since you have all Atari consoles covered and you are using the Jag II

chipeset, you can have third party people make other adapters to do other

systems like Colevovison, SMS, NES or what have you. The Jag II is 3 RISC

processors now and not counting the host. all bugs are fixed in this chipset

and it can probably be clocked at 200 MHZ. More than enough to handle

the old classics.

 

This would be a great move on Atari's part if they did this. I'd go in hock

to get one.

 

 

Then there is all the classic Arcade machines it would easily handle.

Edited February 21, 2009 by Gorf

[+pboland]

Comeone dudes! Imagine an all in one Atari Classics console.

 

Give It one Jaguar Cart slot and two adapters.

 

One to handle 2600/7800 carts.

One for 8 bit/5200 carts.

 

Now since you have all Atari consoles covered and you are using the Jag II

chipeset, you can have third party people make other adapters to do other

systems like Colevovison, SMS, NES or what have you. The Jag II is 3 RISC

processors now and not counting the host. all bugs are fixed in this chipset

and it can probably be clocked at 200 MHZ. More than enough to handle

the old classics.

 

This would be a great move on Atari's part if they did this. I'd go in hock

to get one.

 

 

Then there is all the classic Arcade machines it would easily handle.

I agree with you, but it doesn't fit the current Atari biz model. I think the Wii has proven you don't have to have the last hardware to be competitive, but you need games.

[gdement]

I doubt they have the money to launch a major game console, and it would be a tough sell for investors.

[Mord]

I doubt they have the money to launch a major game console, and it would be a tough sell for investors.

 

Oh let us dream.

[Gorf]

Comeone dudes! Imagine an all in one Atari Classics console.

 

Give It one Jaguar Cart slot and two adapters.

 

One to handle 2600/7800 carts.

One for 8 bit/5200 carts.

 

Now since you have all Atari consoles covered and you are using the Jag II

chipeset, you can have third party people make other adapters to do other

systems like Colevovison, SMS, NES or what have you. The Jag II is 3 RISC

processors now and not counting the host. all bugs are fixed in this chipset

and it can probably be clocked at 200 MHZ. More than enough to handle

the old classics.

 

This would be a great move on Atari's part if they did this. I'd go in hock

to get one.

 

 

Then there is all the classic Arcade machines it would easily handle.

I agree with you, but it doesn't fit the current Atari biz model. I think the Wii has proven you don't have to have the last hardware to be competitive, but you need games.

 

 

And what model would that be? Still wanting to be something they are'nt?

Come now. Dragon Ball Z? I expect this from Sony, not Atari. It certainly

didn't seem to help things much now did it?

 

I already said that the Jag II does not have to be as powerful but it will need games.

Make the adapters as I said and you already have more titles than the competition

from the get go. You'll draw a huge % of classic console fans immediately and the

Jaguar's current library will not suffer from frame drops. Imagine Battle/CyberMorph

at a constant 60fps. Or Doom with no netwroking errors as that part of the DSP is fixed.

It would also run at a constant 60 FPS. I-war, the IS series, MC3D, HoverStrike would

all run at 60 FPS. Then you have a RGPU processor specifically designed to handle high

level languages like C so ports are now not only possible but practical.

 

Imagine Alien Vs Preditor at a constant 60 FPS. NOw you get us developers to continue

to pump out newer titles and 3D classic updates. If you guy saw some of the ideas I have

for these updates, you'd definitely appreciate them.

 

Plus, in a week or so, you'll have Mad Bodies to play on it too! ....its close anyway...

[+pboland]

Comeone dudes! Imagine an all in one Atari Classics console.

 

Give It one Jaguar Cart slot and two adapters.

 

One to handle 2600/7800 carts.

One for 8 bit/5200 carts.

 

Now since you have all Atari consoles covered and you are using the Jag II

chipeset, you can have third party people make other adapters to do other

systems like Colevovison, SMS, NES or what have you. The Jag II is 3 RISC

processors now and not counting the host. all bugs are fixed in this chipset

and it can probably be clocked at 200 MHZ. More than enough to handle

the old classics.

 

This would be a great move on Atari's part if they did this. I'd go in hock

to get one.

 

 

Then there is all the classic Arcade machines it would easily handle.

I agree with you, but it doesn't fit the current Atari biz model. I think the Wii has proven you don't have to have the last hardware to be competitive, but you need games.

 

 

And what model would that be? Still wanting to be something they are'nt?

Come now. Dragon Ball Z? I expect this from Sony, not Atari. It certainly

didn't seem to help things much now did it?

 

I already said that the Jag II does not have to be as powerful but it will need games.

Make the adapters as I said and you already have more titles than the competition

from the get go. You'll draw a huge % of classic console fans immediately and the

Jaguar's current library will not suffer from frame drops. Imagine Battle/CyberMorph

at a constant 60fps. Or Doom with no netwroking errors as that part of the DSP is fixed.

It would also run at a constant 60 FPS. I-war, the IS series, MC3D, HoverStrike would

all run at 60 FPS. Then you have a RGPU processor specifically designed to handle high

level languages like C so ports are now not only possible but practical.

 

Imagine Alien Vs Preditor at a constant 60 FPS. NOw you get us developers to continue

to pump out newer titles and 3D classic updates. If you guy saw some of the ideas I have

for these updates, you'd definitely appreciate them.

 

Plus, in a week or so, you'll have Mad Bodies to play on it too! ....its close anyway...

Again Gorf, I'm with you 100%. I meant to say "I think the Wii has proven you don't have to have the latest hardware to be competitive". My reason for stating that is to say: I think the Jag II could be very competitive in this market. And yes, it does come down to games. I know some of the stuff you have done for the Jag. I have followed a lot of that stuff. I think you are definitely capable of supplying these great games, but it is going to take an act of God to get Atari to do this.

 

Or a massive letter writing campaign. (I don't see that happening either, we're talking 1000's of letters and not emails)

[Gorf]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

[Atari Dogs]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

 

Only if Atari gets stimulus package money. Send letters to your congressmen.

[Gorf]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

 

Only if Atari gets stimulus package money. Send letters to your congressmen.

 

 

I'd feel much better knowing it went to Atari than the likes of Acorn, that's for damn sure.

[Retro Rogue]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

 

Only if Atari gets stimulus package money. Send letters to your congressmen.

 

Why would Infogrames get stimulus package money?

[Atari Dogs]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

 

Only if Atari gets stimulus package money. Send letters to your congressmen.

 

Why would Infogrames get stimulus package money?

 

First we buy them back. Gotta have that Made in the USA on it.

[Retro Rogue]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

 

Only if Atari gets stimulus package money. Send letters to your congressmen.

 

Why would Infogrames get stimulus package money?

 

First we buy them back. Gotta have that Made in the USA on it.

 

Buy who back? Atari Inc.? They never were Atari or had anything really to do with it, they were just GT Interactive and leasing the name and properties from Atari Interactive, a shell company set up by Infogrames to hold the Atari name and properties (along with a few other non-Atari related properties).

[sl0re]

Again Gorf, I'm with you 100%. I meant to say "I think the Wii has proven you don't have to have the latest hardware to be competitive". My reason for stating that is to say: I think the Jag II could be very competitive in this market. And yes, it does come down to games. I know some of the stuff you have done for the Jag. I have followed a lot of that stuff. I think you are definitely capable of supplying these great games, but it is going to take an act of God to get Atari to do this.

 

Or a massive letter writing campaign. (I don't see that happening either, we're talking 1000's of letters and not emails)

 

Another thing, I was in a few stores today and noticed plenty of game consoles but no cheap computers. A FB3 with a ps keyboard port could tap a market there. Throw in a few programming languages, a word processor with spell check, et cetera and you can also mention they can learn programming on the box. I though I heard this thing might have a ps2 port and SD card slot so it could be an add on. $55 programming package. Get a keyboard and all the languages and assemblers we can dig up on an SD...

[+pboland]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

Well, we won't need to worry about that, because Atari won't be releasing anything hardware anyway. Their new biz model is all about online play and distribution, if memory serves me correctly. That's why talking about a new piece of Atari branded hardware is a pipe dream at this point.

 

Unless you know something we don't?

[awace]

Again Gorf, I'm with you 100%. I meant to say "I think the Wii has proven you don't have to have the latest hardware to be competitive". My reason for stating that is to say: I think the Jag II could be very competitive in this market. And yes, it does come down to games. I know some of the stuff you have done for the Jag. I have followed a lot of that stuff. I think you are definitely capable of supplying these great games, but it is going to take an act of God to get Atari to do this.

 

Or a massive letter writing campaign. (I don't see that happening either, we're talking 1000's of letters and not emails)

 

Another thing, I was in a few stores today and noticed plenty of game consoles but no cheap computers. A FB3 with a ps keyboard port could tap a market there. Throw in a few programming languages, a word processor with spell check, et cetera and you can also mention they can learn programming on the box. I though I heard this thing might have a ps2 port and SD card slot so it could be an add on. $55 programming package. Get a keyboard and all the languages and assemblers we can dig up on an SD...

you just described my COMPAQ n610c laptop w a sd memmory stick reader!!!

THE GOOD NEWS IS TARGET STILL HAS atari joystick PLUG PLAY DEVICES. NOW WE NEED TO GET THEM TO USE A SD STICK BASED game key!!!!!!! THATS WHAT WE NEED TO GET THEM TO LET US PLAY W.

Edited February 23, 2009 by awace

[Gorf]

Releasing anything else would be a mistake.

 

Only if Atari gets stimulus package money. Send letters to your congressmen.

 

Why would Infogrames get stimulus package money?

 

 

I think he was taking a jabb at the utterly ridiculous plan for giving away the house

of the United States of America to every one with thier hand out(unless your the middle

class like most of us....we get to pay for it.)

[Retro Rogue]

I think he was taking a jabb at the utterly ridiculous plan for giving away the house

of the United States of America to every one with thier hand out(unless your the middle

class like most of us....we get to pay for it.)

 

 

No, I understood that. The details of the joke didn't make sense though, because it seemed like it was based on a lack of understanding of who/what the Atari brand is now.

[Gorf]

I think you are definitely capable of supplying these great games, but it is going to take an act of God to get Atari to do this.

 

 

If they just pay their developers in a timely manner than they did in the past( or pay them at all in some cases)

They'd be fine. The biggest challenge Atari faces is convincing developers they are not the Tramiels. In the words

of a famous video game MC.....

 

"Gooooood Luck! Yooooou'll need it!"

 

 

I'd just stay a 3rd party developer and when they show me the money, I'll ship them the game.

That is probably how most developers would feel.