Jump to content
Thelbane

Reflex ROM - first time in AA forum

Recommended Posts

Greetings programs,

Here's my first posting of Reflex in the AA forums. I hope you all enjoy it and I'd appreciate any feedback you might have... Particularly about the gameplay/difficulty and the driving controller support if you have the required hardware. But all comments are welcome!

This is a breakout-like game where the objective is to clear all the bricks and avoid letting the ball go out of bounds. The big difference is that in single-player mode, you control two paddles that move [i]around[/i] the bricks instead of just under them. The two-player variations of this game play similar to PONG, except there are bricks between you and your opponent's paddles.

Some quick info:[list]
[*][b]SELECT[/b] cycles through these game modes:[list=1]
[*]Joystick - Single player
[*]Joystick - Two player (competitive)
[*]Joystick - Two player (cooperative)
[*]Driving controller - Single player
[*]Driving controller - Two player (competitive)
[*]Driving controller - Two player (cooperative)
[/list]
[/list][list]
[*][b]RESET[/b] starts a game
[*][b]RESET (multiple times)[/b] changes levels
[*][b]TV TYPE[/b] cycles through these video modes:[list=1]
[*]NTSC (default)
[*]PAL 60
[*]PAL 50
[/list]
[/list][list]
[*][b]Holding SELECT or RESET[/b] during power up starts the game in PAL 60 or PAL 50 mode, respectively
[/list]
Enjoy!

[attachment=39413:attachment]

-Lee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Oh, I forgot to include a link to the [url="http://www.ioyu.com/io/atari/reflex/level_index.asp"]level editor[/url]. I had posted this to the Stella developers list and since I'm finally using this to generate levels, I thought I'd post it here.

Please note that this tool is only for contributing levels for possible inclusion in the finished game, not generating custom levels for a hacked ROM (sorry).

If you disagree with the disclaimer on the editor page, please don't submit your level.

Thanks!

[url="http://www.ioyu.com/io/atari/reflex/level_index.asp"]http://www.ioyu.com/io/atari/reflex/level_index.asp[/url]

-Lee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Wow. That is one slick homebrew... the production values are easily on par with a professionally designed 2600 game. It's a nifty twist on the Breakout theme, too, although I must admit that the gameplay is a bit more confusing when the paddles snake along the edges of the screen like that. Still, this is good stuff! Reflex may just be in the running for the year's best 2600 release.

JR

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
What great responses in such a short time. :D Thank you!

:? Thomas, I hope I didn't break too many netiquette rules by linking back to this topic from the homebrew section. That section is pretty far down the list, which is why I missed it the first time. As always, thanks for helping a n00b stay on track.

-Lee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='retrocon' date='Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:10 AM']How many hours did you put into developing this if I might ask?
[right][snapback]916110[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]

Hmm... I hadn't been tracking the hours, but that represents about a year-and-a-half of on-and-off coding. Most of the work was done in the first two months, when I was feeling the rush... learning as much as I could in as little time possible. Sometime into development, I hit a couple of walls on stuff that wasn't as much fun to code, so I put it off until the Stella 2.0 alphas started getting released with it's wonderful integrated debugger. That was only a couple months ago and the momentum has built up again since.

But early on... I would say I was easily putting 25 hours a week into it... learning and coding at the same time, losing sleep, etc. These days it's settled down to more like 10 hours a week.

-Lee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='Thelbane' date='Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:15 PM']:? Thomas, I hope I didn't break too many netiquette rules by linking back to this topic from the homebrew section.  That section is pretty far down the list, which is why I missed it the first time.  As always, thanks for helping a n00b stay on track.  [/quote]
No problem. I was just afraid some people interested might miss your game.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
At vgExpo, I was actually tempted to buy a copy... until I realized it wasn't released yet.

And don't take out the driving controller support. While it might be nice to make it work faster (maybe even scale it such that the faster you turn it, the faster it accellerates), it worked fine with my "dialing finger" technique.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
This game has come a long way since I last saw and played it on the Stella mailing list. One of the great things about lurking on the list is watching great homebrews like this one grow from simple beginings.

Nice job!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
WOW! This is really nice! :-o

Just wrote it to a maxicart and fired it up on the Phoenix, and it is a really nice bit of work. The music is great as well. It is easily in the class of a good commerical product. Though I wish the game supported the paddle controller. Guess I'll have to dig out one of my driving controllers and plug it into the 7800.

Nice Work! :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='remowilliams' date='Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:30 PM']WOW!  This is really nice!  :-o

Just wrote it to a maxicart and fired it up on the Phoenix, and it is a really nice bit of work.  The music is great as well.  It is easily in the class of a good commerical product.  Though I wish the game supported the paddle controller.  Guess I'll have to dig out one of my driving controllers and plug it into the 7800. 

Nice Work!  :D
[right][snapback]916650[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]


Thank you for releasing this ROM. This game is great. You took an old idea and made it better. I haven't tried it with the Driving Controller yet but that is a perfect choice for this type of game. I would buy this on a cart for sure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
All the positive feedback is wonderful and maybe a little overwhelming. I don't know what to say! Thank you! :D

And for those interested, I'm looking into having a cart published, hopefully by Philly Classic in November.

-Lee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cool game! Very nice graphics and sound. I like the fact you actually went to the trouble of making a round ball for it.

Is there a way to put english on the ball? I can't seem to make it change angle or direction based on how I hit it.

It reminds me a little of another homebrew that was being developed - [url="http://www.atariage.com/development_page.html?InDevelopmentID=41"]Radial Pong.[/url] Just curious - instead of driving controllers, had you considered paddles? Admittedly, you'd have to move back and forth instead of being able to just spin continuously, but the control might be smoother.

(Edit) Another thought on the controls - for the single joystick version, would a Gyruss-type scheme work, where you could rotate the joystick around in a circle, to move the paddles around? Edited by Nathan Strum

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='Thelbane' date='Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:24 AM'][quote name='retrocon' date='Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:10 AM']How many hours did you put into developing this if I might ask?
[/quote]
Hmm... I hadn't been tracking the hours, but that represents about a year-and-a-half of on-and-off coding. Most of the work was done in the first two months, when I was feeling the rush... learning as much as I could in as little time possible.
[/quote]
I had the privelege of communication with Lee a bit during the early days...I'll bet someone who cared could dig up the [stella] posts where I express amazement at how quickly he was putting things together, and also how is sense of 2600 design finesse was dwarfing mine. (My project had a big old hiatus in the middle of it as well, come to think of it...hope I wasn't contageous)

Anyway, great work Lee!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='kisrael' date='Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:03 PM']I had the privelege of communication with Lee a bit during the early days...I'll bet someone who cared could dig up the [stella] posts where I express amazement at how quickly he was putting things together, and also how is sense of 2600 design finesse was dwarfing mine. (My project had a big old hiatus in the middle of it as well, come to think of it...hope I wasn't contageous)

Anyway, great work Lee!
[right][snapback]917009[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]

You give me too much credit, Kirk! Where would so many new developers be without your tutorials, references and utilities? I also owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the development community as a whole for its support and encouragement throughout the development process, especially in the early stages.

So, thank you! :)

-Lee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='Thelbane' date='Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:55 AM']Oh, I forgot to include a link to the [url="http://www.ioyu.com/io/atari/reflex/level_index.asp"]level editor[/url].  I had posted this to the Stella developers list and since I'm finally using this to generate levels, I thought I'd post it here.

[url="http://www.ioyu.com/io/atari/reflex/level_index.asp"]http://www.ioyu.com/io/atari/reflex/level_index.asp[/url]

-Lee
[right][snapback]916046[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]

Really nice level editor! Wow! The only thing missing that would have been helpful was a rotate left/right/up/down function.

I love "cryptkeeper's" Adventure castle. After I did a few purely obstacle-oriented designs, I did a few tributes...Pitfall (the crocodile), Go Fish (I hope my barely recognizable sharks don't offend Bobby ;) ), and Chopper Command (the jet).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Nice game.. good graphics.. love that little graphic of a joystick or whatever. Repetitive tho (like Breakout) Game doesn't seem to get any faster or harder?!

EDIT: This game is very fun. Getting that last block left is tough. Love the colors. Gameplay is very smooth and polished. The paddles move perfectly. Edited by yuppicide

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
[quote name='yuppicide' date='Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:32 AM']Repetitive tho (like Breakout) Game doesn't seem to get any faster or harder?!
[right][snapback]917727[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]

It doesn't? I was actually concerned that it was too hard... I can barely get through three levels without losing all my lives!

Try flipping the left difficulty switch. This doesn't affect initial ball speed, but it will accelerate faster (fewer paddle hits before it speeds up). Changing the difficulty level affects the next game started, not a game currently being played.

Thank you for the good criticism. (Finally!) ;)

-Lee

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...