neotokeo2001 #1 Posted August 31, 2005 Don't count on it. EGM interviewed Square Enix director Yoshinori Kita, regarding to the possibility of a PS3 remake of Final Fantasy VII; He said it would take a team of 300 people to develop the remake in the quality of PS3, and the development would last 5 years. He has so many other projects in the pipeline and a FFVII remake would be a heavy task. He commented if the timing is right, it is a very interesting perspective. It seems Square Enix's first PS3 project is presumably Final Fantasy XIII, instead of the FFVII remake. These guys are brain-dead, "in the quality of PS3". They don't seem to realize that a remake doesn't have to have super-realistic graphics. They could make a PS2 version in a year with a few programmers and artist but instead they continue with garbage like the Saga games. They could also release a portable version on the PSP or DS and rake in the cash. SquareEnix is really letting us down lately. The only game I am looking forward to is Dragon Quest and Square didn't even make it. I hope this is just a huge smoke screen. I am starting to think that Nintendo might be on to something with the Revolution. Give me 2-4 good games instead of 1 mega-super-eye bleeding graphic hog PS3 game. I'll wait until I see them but Sony is being really condescending to gamers. Did anyone catch the quote from Sony about the high price of the PS3 and their response was people will just have to work a little extra to buy one. And the PSP hasn't lifted portable gaming out of the ghetto, It just made it more exspensive. Thank God for Atlus and Nippon Ichi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #2 Posted August 31, 2005 Don't count on it. EGM interviewed Square Enix director Yoshinori Kita, regarding to the possibility of a PS3 remake of Final Fantasy VII; He said it would take a team of 300 people to develop the remake in the quality of PS3, and the development would last 5 years. He has so many other projects in the pipeline and a FFVII remake would be a heavy task. He commented if the timing is right, it is a very interesting perspective. It seems Square Enix's first PS3 project is presumably Final Fantasy XIII, instead of the FFVII remake. These guys are brain-dead, "in the quality of PS3". They don't seem to realize that a remake doesn't have to have super-realistic graphics. They could make a PS2 version in a year with a few programmers and artist but instead they continue with garbage like the Saga games. They could also release a portable version on the PSP or DS and rake in the cash. SquareEnix is really letting us down lately. What, you thought he was being serious? "We can't remake a game in less than 5 years without an obscenely large staff, but we can turn a new one out in a fraction of the time with a fraction of the manpower?" It's pretty obvious what's going on. Squeenix is sick of hearing the fanboys clamoring for a remake, but doesn't want to come out and say "FOR GOD'S SAKE PEOPLE! IT'S BEEN A DECADE! GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!" so they spun out some absurd lie about how impossible it is, and expected the people clamoring for a remake to take anything they said at face value. I am starting to think that Nintendo might be on to something with the Revolution. Give me 2-4 good games instead of 1 mega-super-eye bleeding graphic hog PS3 game. Like I said, it's not the PS3 is hard to develop for. If it was really that hard, NO games would be coming out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaggy the Atarian #3 Posted August 31, 2005 (edited) Why are people obsessed with a FF7 remake anyways? The only thing you'd get out of a true remake are flashy graphics, but if all you care about is the story and gameplay, why should any of that change and why should it matter? Either way, it does sound like a cop out though on SE's part. But I guess I don't care enough. Edited August 31, 2005 by Shaggy the Atarian Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neotokeo2001 #4 Posted August 31, 2005 Like I said, it's not the PS3 is hard to develop for. If it was really that hard, NO games would be coming out. 922713[/snapback] I thought it was just web rumor about the PS3 being hard/exspensive to work with but developers have starting making statements about the high cost of making games for it and how it may shut them out from releasing games. I guess we will all know in a year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaggy the Atarian #5 Posted August 31, 2005 Like I said, it's not the PS3 is hard to develop for. If it was really that hard, NO games would be coming out. 922713[/snapback] I thought it was just web rumor about the PS3 being hard/exspensive to work with but developers have starting making statements about the high cost of making games for it and how it may shut them out from releasing games. I guess we will all know in a year. 922721[/snapback] They should start focusing on making games for classic systems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keilbaca #6 Posted September 1, 2005 Yeah, its things like this that make me lean towards the revolution more and more. I mean who needs anything else than a online Super Smash Brothers and to be able to play the classic games, all on one system? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #7 Posted September 1, 2005 Like I said, it's not the PS3 is hard to develop for. If it was really that hard, NO games would be coming out. 922713[/snapback] I thought it was just web rumor about the PS3 being hard/exspensive to work with but developers have starting making statements about the high cost of making games for it and how it may shut them out from releasing games. I guess we will all know in a year. 922721[/snapback] But the PS3 is launching with games. It's a safe bet that each of these titles has not an entire company devoted solely to it's development since the PS2 rolled out. Hence, Squeenix's numbers are merely a smokescreen for a less polite reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sega saturn x #8 Posted September 1, 2005 Checking......nope don't care. Why re-make an rpg that is fine the way it is? Hell you can even play the original on the ps3! The only point of a re-makeing a game that i can see is to add something that should have been in the first one but got cut for one reason or another or a major flaw that needs to be fixed. Both are impossible in this case, the only thing the game is missing is flashy graphics and really who cares? The only major flaw i found was the plot and if you changed then it would be a whole new game. So remaking a game that is less than a decade old and has nothing that can really be chanegd to make it better seems very pointless. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoco #9 Posted September 1, 2005 I think a remake of FF VII on the PS3 would be unnecessary. If you want to play it so much, buy a PS1 version. Won't the PS3 play it anyway? All you'd get out of it is flashier graphics. Now, if they want to put a version on the PSP that didn't have to be a complete overhaul, that would be fine and hell, I'd probably buy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #10 Posted September 1, 2005 If they DO eventually remake FF7, I want to see a complete overhaul. Something as extreme as Lunar: Silver Star got. Only with a lot less instances of suck++; in the code. Not a big fan of FF7 to start with(IMO, the game is average, and really not worth most of the hype it gets), but a port + facelift is not my idea of a proper remake in any case. Expand the world. Add scenarios that elaborate on the more interesting plot points. Minimze the dull and ininteresting parts. Clean the story up a bit. MORE MINIGAMES... err, I mean... Ah, to hell with it, I mean exactly what I said. They've got a few major plot holes that needed closing, and the game engine has a fair bit of room for growth(the materia system, at least, could be evolved a LOT). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
classicgamingguy #11 Posted September 1, 2005 Bleh! And as someone said, that God for Nippon Ichi. I love Atelier Iris...great game and lots of playtime involved. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjarabbit #12 Posted September 2, 2005 PS3 games are expected to cost $60 due to the high development costs. I just don't see the point of a FFVII remake on the PS3. I'd rather see new games, hell I want to see FFXII finally get made. Speaking of Square-Enix am I the only one disapointed by the games it's made since the merger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #13 Posted September 2, 2005 PS3 games are expected to cost $60 due to the high development costs. I just don't see the point of a FFVII remake on the PS3. I'd rather see new games, hell I want to see FFXII finally get made. Speaking of Square-Enix am I the only one disapointed by the games it's made since the merger. 923558[/snapback] I didn't care for most of the titles they made BEFORE the merger. The interesting stuff was, by and large, licensed from someone else and merely PUBLISHED by Square/Enix. ... Star Ocean still kicks ass, whether published by Enix, Squeenix, or SCEA. tri-Ace rules! WHOO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #14 Posted September 2, 2005 Hmm... I don't understand remaking a game for a backwards compatible system that will play it anyways. (aside from the graphics of course) but even then... why not have a complete new one to take on so it's a different game. So what is it? Why remake FF7? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spacecadet #15 Posted September 2, 2005 So what is it? Why remake FF7? 923624[/snapback] Because a lot of people really like the game and would love to play it with updated graphics? Why is this so difficult to understand? Square's just blowing smoke. This remake has been in the works for years; it was started on the PS2, was put on hold and is now back on for PS3. I'll eat my hat if this thing does not come out within two years. I will actually be surprised if it is not a PS3 launch title. Square's been mining the back catalog for a while now, so all of you thinking they wouldn't do this because they want people to "get on with their lives" have got to explain why they've released no fewer than three Final Fantasy VII side-games in the past year. The re-release of the full game itself will just be the icing on the cake for what they're already doing. 5 years to develop? Please. And presumably it's going to take them less time to do FFXIII from scratch? Ludicrous. If you can't see through this then I've got a bridge to sell you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoco #16 Posted September 2, 2005 I think I may be able to get more into an RPG like FF VII if it were on a portable. I've realized that aside from the original DW, I can't get into RPG's because I feel like I'm wasting a lot of time. So if I could do it on the PSP while watching TV at the same time, I'd be wasting less time..? Seems weird, but it's true. So, bring it on, Squenix, just port it to the PSP and people will buy it. It would literally sell the system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #17 Posted September 2, 2005 Square's just blowing smoke. This remake has been in the works for years; it was started on the PS2, was put on hold and is now back on for PS3. I'll eat my hat if this thing does not come out within two years. I will actually be surprised if it is not a PS3 launch title. You're confusing started on with "rumored." Square's been mining the back catalog for a while now, Excepting those 4 SNES ports, I don't think so. so all of you thinking they wouldn't do this because they want people to "get on with their lives" I think it's what their BS excuse wfor why they aren't doing it sounds like. have got to explain why they've released no fewer than three Final Fantasy VII side-games in the past year. What have they released? Please show me. The re-release of the full game itself will just be the icing on the cake for what they're already doing. The re-release they aren't doing? 5 years to develop? Please. And presumably it's going to take them less time to do FFXIII from scratch? Ludicrous. If you can't see through this then I've got a bridge to sell you. Ummm... I CAN see through it. I said as much way back at the beginning of the thread. And I'd bet money that they aren't going to back over the sentiment expressed in that interview so rapidly. They said it's not gonna be there, it's not gonna be there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sega saturn x #18 Posted September 2, 2005 Square's just blowing smoke. This remake has been in the works for years; it was started on the PS2, was put on hold and is now back on for PS3. I'll eat my hat if this thing does not come out within two years. I will actually be surprised if it is not a PS3 launch title. So would you like your hat with salsa or tabasco? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #19 Posted September 2, 2005 Square's just blowing smoke. This remake has been in the works for years; it was started on the PS2, was put on hold and is now back on for PS3. I'll eat my hat if this thing does not come out within two years. I will actually be surprised if it is not a PS3 launch title. So would you like your hat with salsa or tabasco? 923651[/snapback] *spritzes it with raw capsican oil* Why bother with somethign as wussy as Tabasco? If it doesn't raise blisters on contact, it ain't spicy enough! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasoco #20 Posted September 2, 2005 *spritzes it with raw capsican oil*Why bother with somethign as wussy as Tabasco? If it doesn't raise blisters on contact, it ain't spicy enough! 923653[/snapback] Déja vu. I feel I've read that same exact reply somewhere else before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mind Game #21 Posted September 5, 2005 Flashy graphics wouldn't prompt me to buy a re-make of FFVII, if they did eventually come out with it, even if I owned the PS3. The fun of FFVII was in the characters and the materia system, in my opinion (though it could have been expanded, I agree). The plot could have done with a bit of fine-tuning, but it wasn't a half-bad game, overall. And the music... Mmm. Good music. Memorable music. Still, FFVII isn't as incredible as a lot of people paint it. Legend of the Dragoon was leagues ahead, both in plot and in characters. The battle system was refreshing, too. It's annoying to see tonnes of people caught up in the FF hype, while good games like LotD get ignored. For me, as someone who plays almost entirely RPG's, the fun of the game is definitely *not* in the graphics, but in the storyline, characters, and battle system. None of that would change (except, perhaps, the battle system, if they decided to tweak it a bit) in a remake. ~Me~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Classic Pac #22 Posted September 5, 2005 Here is the one thing about this that got me. During G4s coverage of this years E3, in fact it was on the very first show that during a clip they ran of upcoming PS3 titles that they actually showed a tiny clip of what could be nothing else than a PS3 version of FF7. To be exact it was the scene in the very beginning of the game when enter the reactor for the first time, meaning the cut scene. What does anybody make of that? Also this was no mistake or trickery I actually called G4 the very next day and they actually confirmed the clip, meaning that it was FF7 on the PS3. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #23 Posted September 5, 2005 I don't know what's worse, the FF VII fan boys who make it out to be the best game ever created, or the FF VII anti-fan boys who do nothing but rip on the game and the people who liked it. I would probably buy a FF VII remake for PS3, but then again I like playing old games over and over. I don't think it will help sell PS3's though. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #24 Posted September 5, 2005 Still, FFVII isn't as incredible as a lot of people paint it. Legend of the Dragoon was leagues ahead, both in plot and in characters. The battle system was refreshing, too. It's annoying to see tonnes of people caught up in the FF hype, while good games like LotD get ignored. You lost all credibility the moment you said something positive about that dog of a game. And you also failed to get the name right. It's The Legend of Dragoon. Gogo engrish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shining slade #25 Posted September 5, 2005 (edited) Why does it seem that all anyone cares about is the FF series? What about other RPG's that were classic and awesome? I for one would love to see a Shining Force III remake with all 3 scenarios released in the US. What Sega is thinking with the Shining Tears and upcoming SF Neo release is beyond me in that they are both completely different than their predecessors. Another great RPG is the Phantasy Star series. I know there is a new release coming for this but how will it be? Also why not come up with sequels to some of the earlier PS1 games? Like Brigandine, or a new Ogre Battle? I'm tired of hearing about FF and everyone hyping it up so much. It's not the only RPG around yet I think everyone has been brainwashed to think it is THE superior RPG series to have. Don't get me wrong, there were/are some great FF games but I just think it's too played out. Another game they should look at making is maybe a new Dragon Force too! Edited September 5, 2005 by shining slade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites