NTSC/PAL conversions

[mos6507]

To PAL users, what's your top 10 list of NTSC-only games you'd like to see in PAL format?

 

To NTSC users, what's your top 10 list of PAL-only games you'd like to see in NTSC format?

 

There are still a good number left that can be converted to the other format.

 

Include finished prototypes in the list if you want (i.e. Save Mary).

[+Kaboomer]

For NTSC (From PAL) I'd like to see Quest for Quintanaroo, KLAX, Dumbo, Fatal Run to start with....I'm sure there are many more and I'll have to think of some more and re-post....

[Thomas Jentzsch]

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Originally posted by Brad Vargovick:

For NTSC (From PAL) I'd like to see Quest for Quintanaroo, KLAX, Dumbo, Fatal Run to start with....I'm sure there are many more and I'll have to think of some more and re-post....

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NTSC versions of Klax and Quest for Quintaroo (Sunrise) already exist.

 

Dumbo seems to be the same story as RS Basketball. The dump displays 286 lines, which is somewhere in the middle between NTSC and PAL. Can somebody tell me the correct colors? Then the conversion could be done very quickly.

 

Well, Fatal Run is a huge 32k ROM, I don't think I want to do that. But I know Cybergoth is a big fan of this game, perhaps he will help here?

[Cybergoth]

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Originally posted by Thomas Jentzsch:

Well, Fatal Run is a huge 32k ROM, I don't think I want to do that. But I know Cybergoth is a big fan of this game, perhaps he will help here?

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Ok, I'll do it as soon as Distella can proper disassemble it

 

(Hm... Sidenote: Shouldn't it be possible to write a *.BAT, which automatically cuts larger BINs into 4K chunks and disassembles all of them?...)

 

Greetings,

Manuel

[Thomas Jentzsch]

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Originally posted by Cybergoth:

Ok, I'll do it as soon as Distella can proper disassemble it

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Hmm, that means never, right?

 

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(Hm... Sidenote: Shouldn't it be possible to write a *.BAT, which automatically cuts larger BINs into 4K chunks and disassembles all of them?...)

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Sure, why don't you write one?

[MattyXB]

From NTSC to PAL here some:

 

All they are only avaible as NTSC. But the list is to long. Maybe some Prototypes like Lord of the Rings and Garfield. And Dragonfire Beta version.

And all very Rare game like SwordQuest WaterWorld.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

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Originally posted by MattyXB:

From NTSC to PAL here some:

 

All they are only avaible as NTSC. But the list is to long. Maybe some Prototypes like

Lord of the Rings

and

Garfield

. And

Dragonfire Beta version

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And all very Rare game like

SwordQuest WaterWorld

.

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Hm, LOTR ok, unfinished protypes like Garfield probably not (makes no sense to me).

 

And why should I convert beta versions of games where final versions exist???

 

And do you really want to play Waterworld?

[MattyXB]

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Originally posted by Thomas Jentzsch:

Hm, LOTR ok, unfinished protypes like Garfield probably not (makes no sense to me).

 

And why should I convert

beta

versions of games where

final

versions exist???

 

And do you really want to

play

Waterworld?

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Betas and unfinished Prototypes, because I like them. Garfield is a great game I think. And Dragonfire beta version is totally diffrent from the finish version.

 

But its your choise.

 

WaterWorld was only a game that I think in the moment, but is not so importend if you don't like it.

[Osmeroid]

Hmm, I can think of a few....

 

1. Dolphin (I have this and the ocean is red!)

 

2. Quadrun

 

3. Crazy Climber

 

4. Montezuma's Revenge

 

5. Track & Field

 

6. Krull

 

7. Video Cube

 

8. Gremlins

 

9. Fathom

 

10. Strawberry Shortcake (J/K!)

 

 

There are a few others that were NTSC releases, such as Taz, Crackpots and RS Baseball but all of these titles appear to work equally as well on PAL - no bizzare colours, unlike Dolphin & the Dread Sea of Blood WA-HAHAHAAARGH!!!

[MattyXB]

Red?????

 

I have think by mine it was green. But red?

 

Must look in some hours again what color has mine. But I think it was green.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

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Originally posted by MattyXB:

And Dragonfire beta version is totally diffrent from the finish version.

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And where can I get a dump of that version?

[Thomas Jentzsch]

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Originally posted by osmeroid:

Hmm, I can think of a few....

 

2. Quadrun

3. Crazy Climber

4. Montezuma's Revenge

5. Track & Field

6. Krull

7. Video Cube

8. Gremlins

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I don't know about any PAL dumps of them, but somebody should make 100% sure, that they don't exist.

 

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1. Dolphin (I have this and the ocean is red!)

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Dolphin exists as a PAL version called Tuby Bird (Starsoft) (aka Vogel flieh)

 

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9. Fathom

Here I have a dump from Imagic.

 

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10. Strawberry Shortcake (J/K!)

The PAL dump exists too. What does J/K mean?

 

Taz is quite identical to Asterix and Crack Pots exists as Boom Bang

[MattyXB]

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Originally posted by Thomas Jentzsch:

And where can I get a dump of that version?

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Here:

VideoGame Archival Movement

this one call here cheese_98.bin / Dragonstomper Beta 4K, but this is a beta version from Dragonfire and not Dragonstomper.

 

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Originally posted by Thomas Jentzsch:

Dolphin exists as a PAL version called Tuby Bird (Starsoft) (aka Vogel flieh)

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But this version is with a bird, and not with a Dolphin. So this an other version for me. I like more Dolphins, so I like to see a new Dolphin too. There exist a HES 2 Pak Special with Dolphin. But I like to see only the ROM Dolphin as PAL too.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

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Originally posted by MattyXB:

But this version is with a bird, and not with a Dolphin. So this an other version for me. I like more Dolphins, so I like to see a new Dolphin too. There exist a HES 2 Pak Special with Dolphin. But I like to see only the ROM Dolphin as PAL too.

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Well that's simple. Split the HES file into four 4K (=4096 bytes) files. Then edit the last 4 bytes of file #2 with a hex editor from F0 FF F0 FF into 00 F0 00 F0 and you got Dolphin (PAL).

 

Any more Multi PAKs worth hacking?

 

[ 04-22-2002: Message edited by: Thomas Jentzsch ]

[Osmeroid]

Forgot one - Cosmic Commuter, although that shouldn't cause too many problems (plenty of black). Do you find that what should be green turns out a sort of blue?

[MattyXB]

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Originally posted by Thomas Jentzsch:

Well that's simple. Split the HES file into four 4K (=4096 bytes) files. Then edit the last 4 bytes of file #2 with a hex editor from F0 FF F0 FF into 00 F0 00 F0 and you got Dolphin (PAL).

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It work, thank you very much. WOW wow WOW.

 

 

Thanks.

 

PS: I have hack it myself by your post, and it work. But thanks for the ROM by mail, I have make it myself.

 

[ 04-22-2002: Message edited by: MattyXB ]

[Thomas Jentzsch]

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Originally posted by osmeroid:

Forgot one - Cosmic Commuter, although that shouldn't cause too many problems (plenty of black).

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On the list

 

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Do you find that what should be green turns out a sort of blue?

???

[rasty]

Personally, I'd love to see (read: play):

 

Frankenstain's Monster

Cakewalk

Bump'n'Jump

Sea Hawk

Cat Trax

This Planet Sucks

Crazy Climber

Survival Island

 

converted from NTSC to PAL, but your mileage may vary

 

Sorry if some should turn out to exist already ...!

 

Rasty.-

[MattyXB]

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Originally posted by Jobf:

PAL Frankensteins Monster released by Gameworld.

 

PAL Cakewalk released by Commavid.

 

PAL Bump N Jump released by Telegames.

 

Also, I know Silica exclusively sold Survival Island (in the UK). It came in a black cassette case with instructions, tho I can't remember if this was PAL or NTSC. Somebody else should know...

 

Steve.

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But there are no ROMs from Frankenstein's Monster or Cakewalk out. Maybe someone can dump them. I think I own Cakewalk, but I am not shure if this is PAL or NTSC. And Frankenstein's Monster is very Rare in PAL, that I own only a NTSC version.

And I can't dump ROMs.

 

And Survival Island exist as PAL ROM.

[Cybergoth]

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Originally posted by MattyXB:

But there are no ROMs from Frankenstein's Monster or Cakewalk out.

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What do you mean, they are not out? I have a BIN of Frankenstein's Monster and I'm sure I once had one of Cakewalk. I deleted it though, because I thought it was just a crappy remake of Tapper. IIRC the only neato thing about it was the funny animation when dropped cakes where removed

 

Greetings,

Manuel

[MattyXB]

Sorry forget I mean PAL ROMs. I think there are no PAL ROMs out from these 2 games.

 

Or I have miss something, but I don't have them.

[jahfish]

well, we euro-collectors don't really care about the difference, since ntsc signals can be used without too much problems here, plus a lot of people use their VCR to convert the signal .....

 

now if us-collectors would force that a little more, and f.e. get a ntsc-pal adaptor .... then the topic gets useless ....

 

i always wonder, why us-collectors have such a problem to adapt to the global collecting community ....

 

look, i have two obelix pal-variations, so why should i bother getting a third ntsc version that costs more than these two together .... mission impossible only works as PAL, so why spend more for the buggy ntsc version .... and there's many more example why collecting both systems makes sence .....

besides that, there were a whole bunch of games designed to work on both systems ...

 

saying "pal carts always roll & don't function in usa" is a cheap excuse .....

 

and makes lots of work for thomas, instead of giving him enough time to provide us with a fresh new game ....

[jahfish]

oh, and to stay on topic, just make me the 10 rarest ntsc games as PAL version so i can save loads of cash .....

[mos6507]

I think a related issue is the completness of AtariAge's ROM database.

 

If there are a lot of games that do have ROM images floating around but just don't happen to be in the database, we should compile this list and get the ROM images added to the database.

 

That way it will be easy to determine which games are and aren't available in NTSC or PAL.

 

[ 04-22-2002: Message edited by: Glenn Saunders ]

[Jobf]

PAL Frankensteins Monster released by Gameworld.

 

PAL Cakewalk released by Commavid.

 

PAL Bump N Jump released by Telegames.

 

Also, I know Silica exclusively sold Survival Island (in the UK). It came in a black cassette case with instructions, tho I can't remember if this was PAL or NTSC. Somebody else should know...

 

Steve.