walter_J64bit Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 (edited) We didn't come in here to get abused, we came here to ask the honest opinions of the people who matter. So lets leave the negative atitude at the door and get down to some serious issues, sorry, not the war this time, we're talking Atari stock here! Come on Jag Fan's this is the not way! We want to see new Jag games keep your abuse to your self. Edited November 23, 2005 by walter_J64bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leearco Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 but are you really going to be happy when that ebay purchase arrives in a tatty crushed box? I don't think so sorry but one of the two crushed boxes for games I have got has been from telegames, and it was a shrinkwrapped game. Cool to hear your dropping your prices thoiugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Laird Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I've bought alot of stuff off Telegames over the last 15 years, mostly when they have given me special offers, and always found the service to be excellent, so that's a good start. The postage has always been a bit expensive but they always arrive quickly and very well packaged with price lists and catalogues included. I'm really pleased you are taking a fresh look at things and I for one will be offering all my support to your cause. I would be quite happy to contribute to a fund to get new games released and what I would like to know the most is which of your original scheduled releases will you be finishing off for release? These are the ones I can remember: Ultimate Brain Games Powerslide Wild Cup Soccer Virtuoso Thunderstalker Graham Gooch Cricket Casino Royale James Pond 3: Robocod And I also believe you coded . . . . Tiny Toon Adventures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysmith2000 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I've bought alot of stuff off Telegames over the last 15 years, mostly when they have given me special offers, and always found the service to be excellent, so that's a good start. The postage has always been a bit expensive but they always arrive quickly and very well packaged with price lists and catalogues included. I'm really pleased you are taking a fresh look at things and I for one will be offering all my support to your cause. I would be quite happy to contribute to a fund to get new games released and what I would like to know the most is which of your original scheduled releases will you be finishing off for release? These are the ones I can remember: Ultimate Brain Games Powerslide Wild Cup Soccer Virtuoso Thunderstalker Graham Gooch Cricket Casino Royale James Pond 3: Robocod And I also believe you coded . . . . Tiny Toon Adventures! 970718[/snapback] They did graphics on Tiny Toons, but I don't believe they were doing the coding, at least based on the internal memos I have. Would be awesome if they were though! That's one I'd love to see released! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Most of those titles sell at EB for $10 or less. What happened to all the Atari 2600 titles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Vendel Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Why not simply look at other websites and guage average prices, or more easily look at Ebay, look at the Completed Auctions and see what the average sale price is for the each game and you'll get a good idea where the prices should be at that people are willing to pay. Curt Right, as many of you will know, Telegames UK has a bit of a reputation for having high prices. Well, Telegames are now in association with Direct 4 Entertainment Ltd, and together we are going to be launching a new e-commerce website in order to sell all the Telegames stock at realistic prices. So here's where you come in.... You guys know the value of these products more than most people, so we are asking for you to suggest REALISTIC prices for some of these games. We'll then take your views into consideration when we come to launch these games onto the new site (www.direct4entertainment.com). Here's a list to start with.. Jaguar... ATARI JAGUAR - Alien Vs. Predator ATARI JAGUAR - Atari Karts ATARI JAGUAR - Attack of the Mutant Penguins ATARI JAGUAR - Breakout 2000 ATARI JAGUAR - Brutal Sports Football ATARI JAGUAR - Bubsy in Fractured Furry Tales ATARI JAGUAR - Cannon Fodder ATARI JAGUAR - Checkered Flag ATARI JAGUAR - Club Drive ATARI JAGUAR - Cybermorph ATARI JAGUAR - Defender 2000 ATARI JAGUAR - Doom ATARI JAGUAR - Double Dragon 5: The Shadow Falls ATARI JAGUAR - Dragon:The Bruce Lee Story ATARI JAGUAR - Evolution: Dino Dudes ATARI JAGUAR - Fever Pitch Soccer ATARI JAGUAR - Fight For Life ATARI JAGUAR - Flashback ATARI JAGUAR - Flip Out ATARI JAGUAR - Hover Strike ATARI JAGUAR - Hyper Force ATARI JAGUAR - Iron Soldier ATARI JAGUAR - I-war ATARI JAGUAR - Kasumi Ninja ATARI JAGUAR - Missile Command 3D ATARI JAGUAR - NBA Jam Tournament Edition ATARI JAGUAR - Pinball Fantasies ATARI JAGUAR - Pitfall: The Mayan Adventures ATARI JAGUAR - Power Drive Rally ATARI JAGUAR - Protector ATARI JAGUAR - Raiden ATARI JAGUAR - Rayman ATARI JAGUAR - Ruiner Pinball ATARI JAGUAR - Sensible Soccer ATARI JAGUAR - Skyhammer ATARI JAGUAR - Soccer Kid ATARI JAGUAR - Super Burnout ATARI JAGUAR - Supercross 3D ATARI JAGUAR - Syndicate ATARI JAGUAR - Tempest 2000 ATARI JAGUAR - Theme Park ATARI JAGUAR - Towers 2 ATARI JAGUAR - Troy Aikman NFL Football ATARI JAGUAR - Trevor McFur: Crescent Galaxy ATARI JAGUAR - Ultra Vortek ATARI JAGUAR - Val D'Isere Skiing and Snowboarding ATARI JAGUAR - White Men Can't Jump ATARI JAGUAR - White Men Can't Jump + Multi Tap ATARI JAGUAR - Wolfenstein 3D ATARI JAGUAR - Worms ATARI JAGUAR - Zero 5 ATARI JAGUAR - Zool 2 ATARI JAGUAR - Zoop 969916[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredifredo Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 A good pdf made by Odie_One ! http://mleguludec.free.fr/dossiers/prix_co...2004_jaguar.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 We didn't come in here to get abused, we came here to ask the honest opinions of the people who matter. So lets leave the negative atitude at the door and get down to some serious issues, sorry, not the war this time, we're talking Atari stock here! Thank you all of you for your help, it's greatly appreciated. 970683[/snapback] I'm not abusing you, I'm putting the situation to you in the most bluntly and profound way. If you want to sell the games, price them to sell. You don't need our help for that. Any business would lower the price gradually until the product started to move. Research ebay. Thats the best gauge, and a scientific method, as there are two bajillion ebay members. Actually, I would recommend opening up your own Ebay store, you'll get alot more people to look at your stuff that way. Not to mention, its safer and more convienient for buyers since they won't have to buy directly from Telegames, people will get the protection of ebay and paypal by buying stuff through your ebay store(if you had one). Did I mention ebay has two bajillion members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 ...people will get the protection of ebay and paypal by buying stuff through your ebay store(if you had one). Are you serious? What kind of mystical protection does a buyer get from Ebay? Ebay's out for itself and is only a bystander in sales. They have made that abundantly clear in every one of their press releases and interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaysmith2000 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 A good pdf made by Odie_One ! http://mleguludec.free.fr/dossiers/prix_co...2004_jaguar.pdf 970794[/snapback] NICE! I'd never seen that before, thanks for sharing the link! I really need to brush up on my french so I can participate in the French Forums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I think that Songbird's pricing scheme is fair and should be used to gauge the fair market value of the newer Telegames titles. I would think that a price of 45-50 pounds (or equivalent Euros) would be fair for such titles as "Worms" or "IS2" (cartridge), but higher prices than this would drive off too many potential customers. And I'm sure that Telegames/Direct 4 could charge a premium for any unreleased games that they introduce to the Jag market. Many gamers would probably pay in excess of $100 to obtain a quality previously-unreleased Jag (or Lynx) title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 If they really want to sell these, they should just list each separately on Ebay with a staring bid of $0.01 and see where the market takes them. Setting prices, especially in pounds sterling, will lead to the bulk of these sitting in a stock room for the next 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isgoed Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 quote: "We sell a game worth £50 for £20 and sell out, only to see that a lot of average joe's with a jag collecting dust in the loft buy the games, with no respect the product, and let it get tatty and then possibly even thrown out. Making these products available to everyone would mean the true collectors and enthusiasts would lose out. After all, that's what most of us are in here for." I agree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevincal Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 And also, I'm sure I speak for most people when I say that not many games (if any) are worth more than $80-90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra Kai Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 (edited) ...people will get the protection of ebay and paypal by buying stuff through your ebay store(if you had one). Are you serious? What kind of mystical protection does a buyer get from Ebay? Ebay's out for itself and is only a bystander in sales. They have made that abundantly clear in every one of their press releases and interviews. 970823[/snapback] Dumbass. If you use paypal you have some protection as a buyer. Paypal= ebay company. Not everyone has been saved from scams because of ebay or paypal, but it does offer you some protection as opposed to just buying direct using a credit card. Myself, I prefer some protection as opposed to none. You have a less chance of getting pregnant that way. Edited November 23, 2005 by Gunstarhero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 ...people will get the protection of ebay and paypal by buying stuff through your ebay store(if you had one). Are you serious? What kind of mystical protection does a buyer get from Ebay? Ebay's out for itself and is only a bystander in sales. They have made that abundantly clear in every one of their press releases and interviews. 970823[/snapback] Dumbass. If you use paypal you have some protection as a buyer. Paypal= ebay company. Not everyone has been saved from scams because of ebay or paypal, but it does offer you some protection as opposed to just buying direct using a credit card. Myself, I prefer some protection as opposed to none. You have a less chance of getting pregnant that way. 970947[/snapback] Paypal offers you jack shit in the event the seller skips out of town unless on the remote off chance they manage to retrieve money from the seller's account which has happened exactly never in the dozen times I tried recovering money from busted deals through Paypal. Buying direct via credit card=recover 100% of your funds 100% of the time in the event of fraud. Check your facts. BTW, there's no need to resort to name calling. It just makes your argument that much weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2KFREEKER Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 ...people will get the protection of ebay and paypal by buying stuff through your ebay store(if you had one). Are you serious? What kind of mystical protection does a buyer get from Ebay? Ebay's out for itself and is only a bystander in sales. They have made that abundantly clear in every one of their press releases and interviews. 970823[/snapback] Dumbass. If you use paypal you have some protection as a buyer. Paypal= ebay company. Not everyone has been saved from scams because of ebay or paypal, but it does offer you some protection as opposed to just buying direct using a credit card. Myself, I prefer some protection as opposed to none. You have a less chance of getting pregnant that way. 970947[/snapback] Paypal offers you jack shit in the event the seller skips out of town unless on the remote off chance they manage to retrieve money from the seller's account which has happened exactly never in the dozen times I tried recovering money from busted deals through Paypal. Buying direct via credit card=recover 100% of your funds 100% of the time in the event of fraud. Check your facts. BTW, there's no need to resort to name calling. It just makes your argument that much weaker. 970953[/snapback] Yeah, Paypal sucks ass! I got scammed by them, that's why I refuse to deal with them as a whole! I only use Money Orders and Credit Card! I just wish that this price list would get posted because I'd love to get cracking on these games! Acid_Atari.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwackery Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 You guys know the value of these products more than most people, so we are asking for you to suggest REALISTIC prices for some of these games. We'll then take your views into consideration when we come to launch these games onto the new site (www.direct4entertainment.com). Here's a list to start with.. Jaguar... ATARI JAGUAR - Breakout 2000 ATARI JAGUAR - Hyper Force ATARI JAGUAR - Protector ATARI JAGUAR - Skyhammer ATARI JAGUAR - Soccer Kid ATARI JAGUAR - Towers 2 969916[/snapback] These are the titles that I don't have and that I really would like to get. I think that the various prices that people have been proposing so far seem pretty fair, but one thing I am wondering about is how your prices will compare to those of other dealers, such as Songbird. Additionally, I am hoping that your shipping charges will also be reasonable for those of us outside of the EU because this could seriously impact the perceived cost of the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 quote: "We sell a game worth £50 for £20 and sell out, only to see that a lot of average joe's with a jag collecting dust in the loft buy the games, with no respect the product, and let it get tatty and then possibly even thrown out. Making these products available to everyone would mean the true collectors and enthusiasts would lose out. After all, that's what most of us are in here for." I agree with that 970883[/snapback] If you what to get to stock selling then the prices would have to be that low to atract customers. I think it is a good thing to make these games more accessable to those of us with limited funds. A few years ago GAME shops were selling a lot of Jag games at very low prices. A lot of my collection was aquired at that time and it realy got me interested in the system again. I bought a Jag CD from Telegames after that, and have even gone as far as getting Battlesphere. For the last three years I have atteneded the Jagfest UK events which have been great fun and have made many new friends. How many others there are here that have a similar story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2KFREEKER Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I wish that EB still supported the Jaguar. I see a game every once in a while in the store, but it is usually checkered Flag or DDV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Harlow Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 We didn't come in here to get abused, we came here to ask the honest opinions of the people who matter. So lets leave the negative atitude at the door and get down to some serious issues, sorry, not the war this time, we're talking Atari stock here! Thank you all of you for your help, it's greatly appreciated. 970683[/snapback] I'm not abusing you, I'm putting the situation to you in the most bluntly and profound way. If you want to sell the games, price them to sell. You don't need our help for that. Any business would lower the price gradually until the product started to move. Research ebay. Thats the best gauge, and a scientific method, as there are two bajillion ebay members. Actually, I would recommend opening up your own Ebay store, you'll get alot more people to look at your stuff that way. Not to mention, its safer and more convienient for buyers since they won't have to buy directly from Telegames, people will get the protection of ebay and paypal by buying stuff through your ebay store(if you had one). Did I mention ebay has two bajillion members? 970815[/snapback] I believe Telegames already sell large ammounts over Ebay.... It's just a thought but why would you expect Telegames to sell AvP at 49$ even when they have 10 copies left? The rarity of a title does indicate it's value. I not saying they do have only 10 copies left, they do have more but I am asking a "what if scenario". Look at BS:G and what it sells for on ebay... why should'nt any company make a profit out of what it has as stock? If the demand is there it will sell...... if not, it won't and then you reduce price until someone will buy it. nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 We didn't come in here to get abused, we came here to ask the honest opinions of the people who matter. So lets leave the negative atitude at the door and get down to some serious issues, sorry, not the war this time, we're talking Atari stock here! Thank you all of you for your help, it's greatly appreciated. 970683[/snapback] I'm not abusing you, I'm putting the situation to you in the most bluntly and profound way. If you want to sell the games, price them to sell. You don't need our help for that. Any business would lower the price gradually until the product started to move. Research ebay. Thats the best gauge, and a scientific method, as there are two bajillion ebay members. Actually, I would recommend opening up your own Ebay store, you'll get alot more people to look at your stuff that way. Not to mention, its safer and more convienient for buyers since they won't have to buy directly from Telegames, people will get the protection of ebay and paypal by buying stuff through your ebay store(if you had one). Did I mention ebay has two bajillion members? 970815[/snapback] I believe Telegames already sell large ammounts over Ebay.... It's just a thought but why would you expect Telegames to sell AvP at 49$ even when they have 10 copies left? The rarity of a title does indicate it's value. I not saying they do have only 10 copies left, they do have more but I am asking a "what if scenario". Look at BS:G and what it sells for on ebay... why should'nt any company make a profit out of what it has as stock? If the demand is there it will sell...... if not, it won't and then you reduce price until someone will buy it. nick 971684[/snapback] Well I think around 50$ is a fair price but I am not a company looking for profit so you might be right. The whole point of this thread was to gather a fair price for the games. So if they lower the prices and only at 50$ people start buying that would be fair enough for me :-) Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 Remember the basis for this thread - Direct is looking to sell Telegames leftover stock. Telegames didnt pay over $49.95 for their AVP carts IM pretty sure, so rarity or not the point of this thread was to find a price point that most Jag fans left would purchase at - not maximize profit regardless if it takes 25 years to sell out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 My thanks to Telegames for stopping in to ask. (or a business partner at least). Truly nice to see, and a nice change from my experience of Telegames in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugxulo Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 How about charging prices based on the percentage rating from AtariTimes divided by 2 (e.g., Zool 2 = 70%, so that'd be $35)? I don't think eBay is very reasonable. Just because someone will pay $500 for Battlesphere doesn't mean it's really worth quite that much (although that's just my opinion). P.S. I also suggest not to base prices on box condition/availability at all. Why do people even collect those things?! It's only cardboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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