Games that need NTSC conversion (and vice-versa)

[R.Cade]

Also, I didn't significantly rewrite anything to do these. I essentially removed the extra overscan code. The games still output data in what would be the NTSC overscan area on the bottom, which won't be visible on a TV, probably.

 

Will this cause any problems? What happens when you output data during the overscan area or in the first 37 lines?

 

Pete

[+Omegamatrix]

My Air Raid and Dumbo proto work perfectly on my NTSC television set. 

987021[/snapback]

Yeah, I'm not surprised you own both. I have two NTSC tvs as well. One rolls with PAL games, and the other does not.

 

Have you ever dumped your Air Raid Wonder007? Is it the same rom as the one it the database?

[R.Cade]

PAL carts don't roll at all on my cheap TV. However, the colors are all screwy.

[+Wonder007]

My Air Raid and Dumbo proto work perfectly on my NTSC television set.  

987021[/snapback]

Yeah, I'm not surprised you own both. I have two NTSC tvs as well. One rolls with PAL games, and the other does not.

 

Have you ever dumped your Air Raid Wonder007? Is it the same rom as the one it the database?

987028[/snapback]

 

I too have a t.v. that rolls with PAL games but when I put Air Raid and Dumbo, they don't at all.....in fact, the colors are fine!

[R.Cade]

My Air Raid and Dumbo proto work perfectly on my NTSC television set. 

987021[/snapback]

Yeah, I'm not surprised you own both. I have two NTSC tvs as well. One rolls with PAL games, and the other does not.

 

Have you ever dumped your Air Raid Wonder007? Is it the same rom as the one it the database?

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I too have a t.v. that rolls with PAL games but when I put Air Raid and Dumbo, they don't at all.....in fact, the colors are fine!

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So those are NTSC games that just output extra lines. Good to know!

[R.Cade]

Does "The Great Escape" 288-line version roll on anyone's TV? If Air Raid doesn't at 290, this one might be fine also.

[+uosipa llamxew]

Does "The Great Escape" 288-line version roll on anyone's TV?  If Air Raid doesn't at 290, this one might be fine also.

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It doesn't roll on my tv.

[sku_u]

Here's a list of games I only have PAL roms of (at least I think they are since they roll). That doesn't mean NTSC versions don't exist (if they do, please post them).

 

Air Raid

Aotmafos

Autorennen

Base Attack

Bi! Bi!

Bingo

Duck Shot

Fire Birds

Forest

Mission 3000 AD

Panda Chase

Phantom Tank (CCE)

Robot Fight

Ski Hunt

Spider Kong (Goliath)

Spider Kong (Plain)

Time Machine

Time Race

Time Race 2

Time Warp

UFO Patrol

Year 1999

Zoo Fun

[+uosipa llamxew]

Out of curiousity, I ran each of the ROMs that sku_u listed through my Krokocart to see what results I would get.

 

I don't have these ROMs to test:

 

Aotmafos

Autorennen

Bingo

Spider Kong (plain)

Time Race

Time Race 2

Time Machine

 

These ROMs rolled on my tv:

 

Base Attack

BiBi

Year 1999

Spider Kong (Goliath)

Robot Fight

Phantom Tank

Mission 3000

Forest

Fire Birds

Duck Shoot

 

These ROMs did not roll on my tv: (although, I noticed a little jitter in some of them)

 

Air Raid

Zoo Fun

UFO Patrol

Time Warp

Ski Hunt

Panda Chase

[+Omegamatrix]

Here's a list of games I only have PAL roms of (at least I think they are since they roll).  That doesn't mean NTSC versions don't exist (if they do, please post them).

 

Air Raid

Aotmafos

Autorennen

Base Attack

Bi! Bi!

Bingo

Duck Shot

Fire Birds

Forest

Mission 3000 AD

Panda Chase

Phantom Tank (CCE)

Robot Fight

Ski Hunt

Spider Kong (Goliath)

Spider Kong (Plain)

Time Machine

Time Race

Time Race 2

Time Warp

UFO Patrol

Year 1999

Zoo Fun

987042[/snapback]

They have graphic differences, but are related to NTSC versions. Which came first only Clonespy can tell:

 

Autorennen - Grand Prix

Bi! Bi! - Scuba Diver

Fire Birds - Assault

Phantom Tank (CCE) - Tanks But No Tanks

Time Race 2 / UFO Patrol - Time Warp (Zellers)

 

Mission 3000 has been done. I think Panda Chase is related to Zoo Fun, but they look completely different. Trying to figure out all the Pac-Kongs & Spider Kongs makes my head hurt.

 

I don't have roms for Aotmatos, Bingo, and the Year 1999. Can someone post them?

[+Wonder007]

Does "The Great Escape" 288-line version roll on anyone's TV?  If Air Raid doesn't at 290, this one might be fine also.

987038[/snapback]

 

My Great Escape works perfectly on all my t.v.'s (NTSC).

[+Wonder007]

Here's a list of games I only have PAL roms of (at least I think they are since they roll).  That doesn't mean NTSC versions don't exist (if they do, please post them).

 

Air Raid

Aotmafos

Autorennen

Base Attack

Bi! Bi!

Bingo

Duck Shot

Fire Birds

Forest

Mission 3000 AD

Panda Chase

Phantom Tank (CCE)

Robot Fight

Ski Hunt

Spider Kong (Goliath)

Spider Kong (Plain)

Time Machine

Time Race

Time Race 2

Time Warp

UFO Patrol

Year 1999

Zoo Fun

987042[/snapback]

 

Well, the following I have an NTSC version for (based on the above list):

 

1) Mission 3000AD

2) Phantom Tank

3) Robot Fight (Astro War is another name for this game I believe).

[+Omegamatrix]

Time_Race.bin

Time_Machine.bin

[+Omegamatrix]

Well, the following I have an NTSC version for (based on the above list):

 

1) Mission 3000AD

2) Phantom Tank

3) Robot Fight (Astro War is another name for this game I believe).

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I think Robot Fight and Astro War are two very different games Wonder007.

[sku_u]

1) Mission 3000AD

2) Phantom Tank

 

 

 

Do you own CCE versions of these carts? I own CCE carts of both of these, but when I had them dumped and tried to run them through my CC2, both rolled. I cannot run clonespy so I don't know what the scanline #s are on each of them, but given that I cannot get them to work on any TVs that don't have vertical hold, I assume they are closer to PAL than they are to NTSC.

[sku_u]

I don't have roms for Aotmatos, Bingo, and the Year 1999. Can someone post them?

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Nothing special, but here you go:

AUTOM.bin

BINGO.BIN

Year.bin

[sku_u]

I think Robot Fight and Astro War are two very different games Wonder007.

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Here's the binary for Robot Fight. I don't know if it is the same as Astro War or not:

ROBOTFT.bin

[+Omegamatrix]

Here's Astrowar. I found a copy of UFO Patrol that's 269 lines. Looks like Time Warp by Zellers to me. The Zellers Time Warp in the AA database is PAL. I think Time Warp = Time Race 2 = UFO Patrol. I'm not sure. this one is NTSC.

 

Astrowar.bin

UFO_Patrol.bin

[R.Cade]

1) Mission 3000AD

2) Phantom Tank

 

 

 

Do you own CCE versions of these carts? I own CCE carts of both of these, but when I had them dumped and tried to run them through my CC2, both rolled. I cannot run clonespy so I don't know what the scanline #s are on each of them, but given that I cannot get them to work on any TVs that don't have vertical hold, I assume they are closer to PAL than they are to NTSC.

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CloneSpy doesn't tell you the line numbers, Z26 does. Just use "-n" when launching it to see the scanline count.

 

Pete

[R.Cade]

I don't have roms for Aotmatos, Bingo, and the Year 1999. Can someone post them?

987072[/snapback]

 

Nothing special, but here you go:

987109[/snapback]

 

Bingo is the same as "Dice Puzzle" by Panda (and Sancho).

Year 1999 is not a valid rom...

[+Omegamatrix]

Atomatos is a hack of Outlaw, and I couldn't get the Year 1999 to do anything. My computer showed a black screen, and kept telling me to buzz off.

[sku_u]

Year 1999 is not a valid rom... 

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Works fine on my CC2 (minus the rolling)

[R.Cade]

Then the attachment must have gotten corrupted, since it's only 2.67k.

[R.Cade]

Also, the Year 1999 I have is a PAL (312 lines) rom. Looks exactly like Condor Attack (and other clones). Says "Suntek" on the bottom of the screen.

[+Mitch]

Then the attachment must have gotten corrupted, since it's only 2.67k. 

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It's actually a .rar file. Rename the file to year.rar and then extract it.

 

Mitch