+Stephen #151 Posted April 28, 2010 BUMP!!! Telnet chat is getting ready to begin (atarinews.org). Fire up the old 8-bits and head on over! IRC chat going on as usual (it's 24/7) Stephen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19Echo #152 Posted April 28, 2010 can you refresh ones memory on what to do Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #153 Posted April 28, 2010 can you refresh ones memory on what to do telnet to atarinews.org. login & password will be "bbs" (w/o quotes). You will then need a chat login. Select T to talk, and C to chat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19Echo #154 Posted April 28, 2010 meant on the 8bit. was going to use bobterm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #155 Posted April 28, 2010 meant on the 8bit. was going to use bobterm Sorry. Bobterm will work, but I prefer Ice-T XE (it's 80 column, and has ANSI support). Since I use APE, I go into the term, and type "ATDT atarinews.org". That "dials" in to the board. The rest is same as any machine, just enter your login info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19Echo #156 Posted April 28, 2010 sorry i had to cut out so quickly! (Brother in law needed a ride to the airport) But i had to say that it was really cool connecting with my 130XE. I hadnt really done that in a long time. Plus i need to tweek a few things with my monitor. I was getting a white background and black text that was just a tiny bit fuzzy. Have a Sakata SC-100. Anyways, i'll definately make future chats! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #157 Posted April 28, 2010 sorry i had to cut out so quickly! (Brother in law needed a ride to the airport) But i had to say that it was really cool connecting with my 130XE. I hadnt really done that in a long time. Plus i need to tweek a few things with my monitor. I was getting a white background and black text that was just a tiny bit fuzzy. Have a Sakata SC-100. Anyways, i'll definately make future chats! Cool - there are some easy tweaks to get a decent color scheme and clear text. See ya soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rchennau #158 Posted April 28, 2010 First time on the chat tonight for me. Joined late but will attempt to hang out in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+DarkLord #159 Posted April 28, 2010 It's chat time!! (See above messages for directions on how to get there.) 1010460[/snapback] Would like to think everyone that showed. We had about 12 people from 8 pm CST till 12 am CST. (and beyond, that was when I left.) Lot of fun. Next chat times are... 10 am CST Sunday 8 PM CST Tuesday Figures...I logged in at 12:47am and no one was there... Maybe next time.... /sigh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #160 Posted April 28, 2010 Figures...I logged in at 12:47am and no one was there... Maybe next time.... /sigh Argh - missed you by about 10 minutes. I had to grab a few hours sleep before work though. Maybe next week. I always hop on Darkforce before hitting the chat too - I will send you a reminder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #161 Posted April 28, 2010 Can't get ICE-T to work: I go into the dial dialogue and the input field fills with the letter "j"... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #162 Posted April 28, 2010 Can't get ICE-T to work: I go into the dial dialogue and the input field fills with the letter "j"... What version of ICE-T XE are you using? The newest version I am aware of is 2.72. Also, what are you using to connect to the PC? Do you know what driver was loaded with Ice-T? I can try to help you later this evening when I am home, but I think we are separated by a 6 hour time gap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEtalGuy66 #163 Posted April 28, 2010 Hahah! ICE T is a piece of crap.. That is a well known bug.. It is even present in the latest version.. Has to do with ICE-T's incorrect/bastardized manipulation of the "R:" handler.. Flashjazzcat, use a real ATARI with SIO2PC and latest version of APE, and you wont have that problem.. But the problem is with ICE-T.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #164 Posted April 28, 2010 I've only tried this version in Atari800WinPlus so far, and this is when I encountered the "j" bug. Nice looking program, but I'm happy to use any client which works. The plan is indeed to use SIO2PC and real hardware, but the question remains which chat client to use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+DarkLord #165 Posted April 28, 2010 Figures...I logged in at 12:47am and no one was there... Maybe next time.... /sigh Argh - missed you by about 10 minutes. I had to grab a few hours sleep before work though. Maybe next week. I always hop on Darkforce before hitting the chat too - I will send you a reminder. Thank you, much appreciated! I can only make it every other Tuesday because of my work schedule, and somehow, I always seem to forget it...or something comes up...or there are Aliens in the corn field, or something... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doctor_x #166 Posted April 28, 2010 i assume regular telnet on a PC will work fine as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Stephen #167 Posted April 28, 2010 Hahah! ICE T is a piece of crap.. That is a well known bug.. It is even present in the latest version.. Has to do with ICE-T's incorrect/bastardized manipulation of the "R:" handler.. Flashjazzcat, use a real ATARI with SIO2PC and latest version of APE, and you wont have that problem.. But the problem is with ICE-T.. Can you suggest a better 80 column ANSI term for the A8? Preferably one with a scrollback buffer? Don't suggest Flickerterm, because that really is a piece of crap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oracle_jedi #168 Posted April 28, 2010 Can't get ICE-T to work: I go into the dial dialogue and the input field fills with the letter "j"... I had this before - if I recall this was the fix: Keyclick Setting When initially using this program, I had a problem with "screaming Js". I won't go through all the details, but if you have such a problem, try changing the key-click to "Quiet" or "None". I know this tip has helped at least one other person besides me. I don't know what causes it, but it does fix it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doctor_x #169 Posted April 29, 2010 missed it this time, but plan on attending in the future. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #170 Posted April 29, 2010 Can't get ICE-T to work: I go into the dial dialogue and the input field fills with the letter "j"... I had this before - if I recall this was the fix: Keyclick Setting When initially using this program, I had a problem with "screaming Js". I won't go through all the details, but if you have such a problem, try changing the key-click to "Quiet" or "None". I know this tip has helped at least one other person besides me. I don't know what causes it, but it does fix it. Thank you VERY much. I'll give that a try, and hopefully catch the next chat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEtalGuy66 #171 Posted April 29, 2010 Pfft.. No it isn't.. It does the infamous "j" problem any time you are using an "R:" handler that is recognized as a standard 850 R: handler, but isnt.. The problem lies in the way that ICE-T is manipulating the handler. He makes calls to specific points within the handler code, instead of using normal "system legal" calls to the handler.. He does this in order to try to get better performance out of it, because the program is already so damn slow on the 80 column drawing routines.. He's attempted to make an I/O/buffering system that is more optimized to the specific needs of ICE-T.. But he's calling specific adresses within the 850 handler for certain functions of his routine.. The "jjjjjj" problem happens with Atari800win's R: handler, as well as the MIO's built in R: handler as well.. ICE T thinks these are the stock atari 850 R: handler, and so assumes it's OK to manipulate them in the manner described above.. Flashjazzcat, using your optimized 80 column routines, a much better 80 column term program could be written nowadayze... You could call it "The LAST TERM".. or "Flash TERM" or something.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #172 Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) Double post. Edited April 29, 2010 by flashjazzcat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #173 Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) Pfft.. No it isn't.. It does the infamous "j" problem any time you are using an "R:" handler that is recognized as a standard 850 R: handler, but isnt.. The problem lies in the way that ICE-T is manipulating the handler. He makes calls to specific points within the handler code, instead of using normal "system legal" calls to the handler.. He does this in order to try to get better performance out of it, because the program is already so damn slow on the 80 column drawing routines.. He's attempted to make an I/O/buffering system that is more optimized to the specific needs of ICE-T.. But he's calling specific adresses within the 850 handler for certain functions of his routine.. The "jjjjjj" problem happens with Atari800win's R: handler, as well as the MIO's built in R: handler as well.. ICE T thinks these are the stock atari 850 R: handler, and so assumes it's OK to manipulate them in the manner described above.. Flashjazzcat, using your optimized 80 column routines, a much better 80 column term program could be written nowadayze... You could call it "The LAST TERM".. or "Flash TERM" or something.. Could be an interesting project... In any case turning the keyclick off cures it. However, I still can't dial in (Atari800WinPlus with R: patch). Presumably I need to boot the 850 handler. ...has anyone got a working RS232 boot disk? I've tried half a dozen handlers and am getting nowhere. Edited April 29, 2010 by flashjazzcat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flashjazzcat #174 Posted April 29, 2010 Anyone at all got a working term on ATR which works with real hardware via Ape? Have given up for tonight: IceT just hangs dialling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+DarkLord #175 Posted April 29, 2010 i assume regular telnet on a PC will work fine as well? I'm using Konsole under KDE/Linux and it works fine... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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