krupkaj Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 So we have new ASMA archive. That's great news. But is possible to play SAP files natively on 8 bit machine? I know the POKEY emulation is decent, but the real thing is real thing. I have heard that some player was written, but I have not seen it. Maybe I have just searched on bad places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hi there! So we have new ASMA archive. That's great news. But is possible to play SAP files natively on 8 bit machine? I know the POKEY emulation is decent, but the real thing is real thing. I have heard that some player was written, but I have not seen it. Maybe I have just searched on bad places. Considering the A8 guys stole everything from the C64 scene as usual, a player would just need to load the SAP file, call the init subroutine once and the play subroutine continuously once per frame Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 @krupkaj Yes, there's solution for you. SAPemu, written by Epi some time ago (docs included). sapemu.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Alas, the SAP-XE player by EPI is good - but not perfect... 1) memory usage: the PC program to generate & play SAP files assumes that on a 64k Atari all 64k are available for the sounds; since this is untrue, some SAP sounds use memory locations that are unavailable on a real Atari (e.g. the I/O-ports) and thus cannot be played with the SAP-XE player (you simply cannot use all 64k on a real A8). Next the SAP-XE player requires some RAM itself and thus a few more sounds will not playback... well, you have to live with that !! 2) DIRectory: the SAP-XE player does not have a directory option; since there are approx 2000 SAP files available, try to remember all their filenames !! Well, it would be nice to have an update with a dir. option included... 3) memory requirements: the doc. file of the SAP-XE player says, that the program requires 128k RAM - untrue !! I tested this on a real 130XE computer with 128k RAM and the SAP-XE player does not work there !! In fact, the program requires 128k XRAM or a total of 192k RAM (64k RAM + 128k eXtra RAM)... Well, it would be nice to have a player for 64k or at least 128k computers (192k is a little too much)... At the moment I am converting 1800 SAP files to the A8. so far I have downloaded all of them, renamed all of the SAP files to 8.3 filenames and tested / checked approx. 1200 files if they play correct on a real A8. Think that less than 100 files did not play (and most of them were long files, especially digitized/sampled sounds)... So, Epi`s player is really good, but I would still like to see a small update for 128k machines and of course a Dir. option included... -Andreas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) Super-Extreme-Mega-Bump. Is the a better version of the SAP player? I can't get this one to work at all. I have tried all memory configurations, and it still only loads 1 or 2 sectors of the music file and locks up. It's a small file ~8K Edit: Typo. Edited June 29, 2019 by Kyle22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roydea6 Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 SAPEMU2.XEX This is the one that I use.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makary Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 On 1/5/2006 at 10:45 AM, krupkaj said: So we have new ASMA archive. That's great news. But is possible to play SAP files natively on 8 bit machine? I know the POKEY emulation is decent, but the real thing is real thing. I have heard that some player was written, but I have not seen it. Maybe I have just searched on bad places. I convert SAPs to XEXs. So I can listen to them with the real thing. A sort of limited workaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Yup I do the same. asapconv is great for that, are there any other tools that do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivop Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Unplayable SAPs could be played with Altirra and turned into a SAP-R file, which can then be compressed and turned into a native player again. There's a thread about in the Programming forum. I was about to say I'm too lazy to look it up, but it was fairly easy : Page by page this thread turned into a marvelous SAP-R compressor and player! Next step IMHO would be to turn that player back into a normal SAP file, but that's not done yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Robot Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) bumping this because I would love a sap player like @Xuel's pdm player for avgcart and I am incapable of writing something like that myself, even with the wealth of existing source code out there. EDIT: Here's the latest SAPEMU, the one above is 0.2, this one is 0.3 SAPEMU3.XEX And here's the instructions. README.md Edited July 16, 2021 by Mr Robot Added latest player. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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