Gunstar #26 Posted September 4, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Ze_ro: As for the Jaguar, I think the controllers for it are one of the best controllers I've ever used... it fits perfectly in my (rather large) hands, and never has a shortage of buttons. Too bad it uses a weird connector : --Zero I have good news for you Ze_ro, Best Electronics (link under dealers in the links section of AtariAge), has a reasonably priced adapter so you can use the Jag's controller with every other Atari system (except the 5200-and the 130xe needs an extension cable due to the recessed ports)!!! This, of course, means that it can also be used with the vic-20, C64, Amiga, Sega mastersystem and possibly the Genesis (don't take my word for that one)and any other system/computer that is compatible with standard atari controller ports... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ze_ro #27 Posted September 4, 2001 quote: Originally posted by osbo: too big, the cart contact in the console sucks, the carts are too big (the PCB inside the carts are really short! I don't know why those carts are too big) The top loader NES it's something completally different You took the words right out of my mouth The hardware itself isn't designed bad... I mean, the games are great for their time. It's the size/shape/implementation of the cartridges that is terrible design in my opinion. I also think that they really should have used a 9-pin joystick port, seeing as they were a total standard at the time. Modern consoles have tricked us into expecting proprietary joystick ports. (By the way, what kind of joystick port does the X-Box use? It really should be USB...) --Zero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osbo #28 Posted September 5, 2001 quote: Originally posted by h.e.r.o: Ze_r0, why do you think the NES design is poor? Not an attack, I'm just curious to hear your reasons. too big, the cart contact in the console sucks, the carts are too big (the PCB inside the carts are really short! I don't know why those carts are too big) The top loader NES it's something completally different Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nateo #29 Posted September 7, 2001 Osbo and Ze_ro- With you all the way. My NES was in such bad condition, I had to buy new inner connectors for it. When I bought another one to use in my arcade, it worked just as bad. Even with the new connectors I bought, I still have problems with the carts, and the carts really aren't that dirty. Just in case you want to know where to buy these new connectors, you can buy 'em at MCM Electronics for about eight bucks each. Look for Nintendo type 72-pin connectors. Be sure to write the part no. down, because when you order, they won't just take the name. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osbo #30 Posted September 7, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Ze_ro: You took the words right out of my mouth The hardware itself isn't designed bad... I mean, the games are great for their time. It's the size/shape/implementation of the cartridges that is terrible design in my opinion. I also think that they really should have used a 9-pin joystick port, seeing as they were a total standard at the time. Modern consoles have tricked us into expecting proprietary joystick ports. (By the way, what kind of joystick port does the X-Box use? It really should be USB...) --Zero In my country was super popular the nintendo top loader (was a pirate version) and it cost us back in 92.... humm... like 300 bucks! and the thing lasted less than a couple of years... and yes, the games for that day were amazing. The console came with Super Mario and Contra. OsBo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSmirk #31 Posted October 3, 2001 quote: Originally posted by h.e.r.o: Ze_r0, why do you think the NES design is poor? Not an attack, I'm just curious to hear your reasons. I'm jumping in here because I think he's probably referring to the "Toaster" version NES, bad design as far as the cart loading apparatus goes, damn it if the KayBee by me had dozens of "Top Loaders" but at the time they were released; I didn't think spending $50 on another NES was a wise decision at the time *Kicks Self* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ratfink #32 Posted October 3, 2001 What about the original Odyssey? Not the Odyssey 2, but the one before that. I found a complete system a few years ago and it was crud. Sure it had "carts" but I'd use the term loosely. All the games were just black & white variations of pong, the controllers were goofy and to enhance the sheer lameness of each game it came with all sorts of board game type materials like cards, maps, boards, etc. Sold it for $20. They actually go for $100 now. Ouch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liveinabin #33 Posted October 26, 2001 A system is only as good as its games, so...er...Jaguar. Sorry. The 2600 still has valuable qualities today, but as soon as the Playstation and Saturn came along, well, you'd really have to be really in love with the Jag to get anything out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atari-Jess #34 Posted October 26, 2001 i think its cause its sofar the only system i have to blow into and fiddle around with to work. (thats what i think he thinks its bad) and ive owned 4 NES thinking they were broken only to find that my first one needed to have the carts fiddled around with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liveinabin #35 Posted October 27, 2001 hehe yeah, The NES wasn't exactly a reliable system was it? If you marketed a toaster like that, you'd get them all sent back, us gamers are a forgiving lot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liveinabin #36 Posted October 31, 2001 I just fixed the contacts on my NES yesterday, and now the bloody cartridges won't stay down. I HATE THAT SYSTEM!!!! If theres one console that's better on emulators it's the NES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lemmi #37 Posted October 31, 2001 I have a NES from back when the Robot came with the system and it still works today , BUT i have to wedge a cassette tape holder between the tape and the top of the opening to get alot of the games to work I also got a top loader from a flea market for 15 bucks which i love cause its so small Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atari-Jess #38 Posted October 31, 2001 the nes keeps young gamers to think its broken which makes em buy lots of NES all to be apparently broken. i owned 4 at one time... now i own 1 working one, the rest were working too i just didn't know it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_shrubb #39 Posted November 3, 2001 Well, call me whatever you like, but I couldn't bring myself to call any of my Atari systems worse than the other. I love 'em all the same. As for the worst system ever? I can't believe no one mentioned the Sega Saturn. That god damned thing is only good for a doorstop. You can't even prop your tv up on it, since the top's not flat (besides, that's what the Mac Classic is for ). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atari-Jess #40 Posted November 3, 2001 sega cd is worse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liveinabin #41 Posted November 4, 2001 Admittedly the Saturn had a pretty slow start, but right at the end of its life (when no-one was really looking) it got some AWESOME games. Burning Rangers and Panzer Dragoon Saga spring to mind. Anyway, how can anyone with a conscience say anything bad about the system that brought us Nights into Dreams?? Now I dont know if it ever reached US but I've got to nominate in this category - The Amstrad GX4000. Look it up on the net if you want to see a terrible machine produced by a bunch of cynical halfwits. Awful Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_shrubb #42 Posted November 9, 2001 I have to admit, I never played Panzer Dragoon or Burning Rangers, but I HATE Nights into Dreams. I fail to see what was so great about it. DAYYYY-TO-NAAAAAAAA!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites