tenoch Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 Amazing. Simply amazing. I would have dropped my jaw too far to fake my excitement. Man, even at 50 bucks each you stole that lot. Congrats. Looking forward to seeing differences between the one Marc did and the SW you have there. Now, the question....what are you going to do with them all? Cassidy That is a good question. Snow white seems to be the one most interesting. I' not sure how rare it really is? Is it a one of a kind sense 2 of them came out from Greg Easter. Mine is definitely different than what has been know as SW. It is a mystery, that I've been trying to find out with no luck. I've sent PM to people here seeing if anyone wanted to dump the carts I have, but there has not been any interest in it. I love just having a piece of unsolved history. I'll dump it one day and share it I'm sure. Later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Amazing. Simply amazing. I would have dropped my jaw too far to fake my excitement. Man, even at 50 bucks each you stole that lot. Congrats. Looking forward to seeing differences between the one Marc did and the SW you have there. Now, the question....what are you going to do with them all? Cassidy That is a good question. Snow white seems to be the one most interesting. I' not sure how rare it really is? Is it a one of a kind sense 2 of them came out from Greg Easter. Mine is definitely different than what has been know as SW. It is a mystery, that I've been trying to find out with no luck. I've sent PM to people here seeing if anyone wanted to dump the carts I have, but there has not been any interest in it. I love just having a piece of unsolved history. I'll dump it one day and share it I'm sure. Later. What do you mean by "no interest"? Didn't I tell you that I will be sending my dumper to someone near you? Some people do work for a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenoch Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 Amazing. Simply amazing. I would have dropped my jaw too far to fake my excitement. Man, even at 50 bucks each you stole that lot. Congrats. Looking forward to seeing differences between the one Marc did and the SW you have there. Now, the question....what are you going to do with them all? Cassidy That is a good question. Snow white seems to be the one most interesting. I' not sure how rare it really is? Is it a one of a kind sense 2 of them came out from Greg Easter. Mine is definitely different than what has been know as SW. It is a mystery, that I've been trying to find out with no luck. I've sent PM to people here seeing if anyone wanted to dump the carts I have, but there has not been any interest in it. I love just having a piece of unsolved history. I'll dump it one day and share it I'm sure. Later. What do you mean by "no interest"? Didn't I tell you that I will be sending my dumper to someone near you? Some people do work for a living. I PM you days ago asking about that and had no reply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as_the_gavel_falls Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Well, happy to let you know that Tenoch just came by and we got 11 successful dumps out of the 12 carts. Couldn't get oscar to run. I emailed him the zip file and I expect he'll be posting them here shortly. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
as_the_gavel_falls Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Screen shots... snow_white1.bmp snow_white2.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Couldn't get oscar to run. Post the dump here too, please. Maybe we can find out what's wrong with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenoch Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 So Here are the .bin files for anyone to play. Sorry it took a while. I've been out of town off and on. battlezone_proto.bin donald_duck_proto.bin moon_pat.bin oscar_proto_try2.bin oscar_proto.bin pigs_space_proto.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenoch Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 So Here are the .bin files for anyone to play.Sorry it took a while. I've been out of town off and on. Sorry here are more. Let me know what ya'll find out about these. It is hard for me to determine what the difference is sometimes. That it. See ya -h. polepos_proto.bin snowwhite_proto.bin sorcerer_proto.bin sorcerorsapp_proto.bin tazz_proto.bin tennis_proto.bin xevious_proto.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Some very first results: First those which a not new: Battlezone, Donald Duck, Pole Position, Xevious and one of the Sorcerer prototypes. Those are 100% identical with the official ROMs. Moon Patrol and Tennis are almost identical with the released ROMs (CloneSpy ~95%), the other ones differ quite a lot. Both (identical) Oscar prototype dumps are incomplete (1st bank is missing). The other dumps are more and less different or completely unknown yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Thomas, Which one of the Sorcerer proto's is different from the original? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) I already found out. It's the one called: sorcerer_proto Edited April 24, 2006 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenoch Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 Some very first results: First those which a not new: Both (identical) Oscar prototype dumps are incomplete (1st bank is missing). When I get time I was going to send the cart to Tempest to try and dump. These were dumped on a 7800 dumper. Tempest mentioned that he dumps from the EPROM so It might dump differently. The cart does have graphics that come up when I plug it in to my atari. Try to send it off soon. -h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Tenoch just wanted to say a big thnak you for sharing these treasures with the rest of the Atari community. You are a true star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Some very first results: First those which a not new: Both (identical) Oscar prototype dumps are incomplete (1st bank is missing). When I get time I was going to send the cart to Tempest to try and dump. These were dumped on a 7800 dumper. Tempest mentioned that he dumps from the EPROM so It might dump differently. The cart does have graphics that come up when I plug it in to my atari. Try to send it off soon. -h. It sounds like the second EPROM isn't being detected by the 7800 dumping program. Obviously it works or the prototype wouldn't come up on a real 2600. I should be able to get the information off it by dumping it directly. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenoch Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 Tenoch just wanted to say a big thnak you for sharing these treasures with the rest of the Atari community. You are a true star Thanks Fox I appreciate it I like to think that it is for the best, no matter if the value goes down I just like to know the differences in the games I have from what is out there and people are starting to reply on that and I thank them. -h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Tenoch just wanted to say a big thnak you for sharing these treasures with the rest of the Atari community. You are a true star Thanks Fox I appreciate it I like to think that it is for the best, no matter if the value goes down I just like to know the differences in the games I have from what is out there and people are starting to reply on that and I thank them. -h Many, many thanks for the roms and for your effort in getting them out there! I don't see why value would go down on items that are so close to one-of-a-kind. The only way I could see that happening is if you had a load of copies, say dozens or hundreds, to peddle. It's all Supply and Demand 101 to which there are no exceptions..... In my opinion when proto roms are hoarded and not released in rom format it's mearly an ego, power trip thing on the part of the owner. It's a real crime when due to this mentality, that games like the Pink Pather are in effect lost to history, unless another copy of the proto is discovered. Edited April 25, 2006 by JL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Tenoch just wanted to say a big thnak you for sharing these treasures with the rest of the Atari community. You are a true star Thanks Fox I appreciate it I like to think that it is for the best, no matter if the value goes down I just like to know the differences in the games I have from what is out there and people are starting to reply on that and I thank them. -h Many, many thanks for the roms and for your effort in getting them out there! I don't see why value would go down on items that are so close to one-of-a-kind. The only way I could see that happening is if you had a load of copies, say dozens or hundreds, to peddle. It's all Supply and Demand 101 to which there are no exceptions..... In my opinion when proto roms are hoarded and not released in rom format it's mearly an ego, power trip thing on the part of the owner. It's a real crime when due to this mentality, that games like the Pink Pather are in effect lost to history, unless another copy of the proto is discovered. I totally agree. The value shouldn't go down for many people are still willing to pay for owning a piece of Atari history. The guys who own the 2600 Pink Panther and computer equivalent should have at least allowed Tempest to do a full indepth review on them for at least that way the rest of us could better understand the games in question. Mind you it is a free country and they have their reasons for not sharing and I am not condemning either one or any others who keep their prizes hidden from view. All I will do is appeal to them to at least allow Tempest to review them for he is 100% trust worthy and will keep any roms sent to him safe and out of public view until told otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 (edited) As far as I'm aware of, Pink Panther, is the only 2600 proto that isn't dumped and shared (and I doubt it's because the owner wants to be the only one that can play it). There are no evil ROM hoarders in 2600 land (most of them seem to live in NES land). So, there is no need to worry about those poor decaying Atari ROMs: we can happily game on for ever!! Cheers, Marco Edited April 28, 2006 by Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 As far as I'm aware of, Pink Panther, is the only 2600 proto that isn't dumped and shared (and I doubt it's because the owner wants to be the only one that can play it).Cheers, Marco There are a few, but there are various reasons for it. There's only one I can think of that is currently being 'horded'. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 The ones that aren't shared are all dumped, aren't they? Like the Blue Sky Rangers games et al. And which one is being horded? Don't be a tease, we have a right to know! Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 The ones that aren't shared are all dumped, aren't they?Like the Blue Sky Rangers games et al. And which one is being horded? Don't be a tease, we have a right to know! Cheers, Marco There are a few that are undumped as of this moment: Good Luck Charlie Brown - Hopefully very soon Pink Panther (2600) - Has the owner been found? Pink Panther (8-bit) - The owner doesn't want to dump or distribute it at this time Texas Chainsaw Massacre (original version) - Prototype whereabouts unknown All the M-Network protos cannot be shared as the copyright and program owners do not want them to be, although they are all dumped (I think). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 (edited) The ones that aren't shared are all dumped, aren't they?Like the Blue Sky Rangers games et al. And which one is being horded? Don't be a tease, we have a right to know! Cheers, Marco There are a few that are undumped as of this moment: Good Luck Charlie Brown - Hopefully very soon Pink Panther (2600) - Has the owner been found? Pink Panther (8-bit) - The owner doesn't want to dump or distribute it at this time Texas Chainsaw Massacre (original version) - Prototype whereabouts unknown All the M-Network protos cannot be shared as the copyright and program owners do not want them to be, although they are all dumped (I think). Tempest They are most certainly not available on the net (except for Swordfight - Swordfighting). Edited April 28, 2006 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 There you go, for the 2600 is's just Pink Panther that hasn't been dumped (the original TCM is safe, if my memory serves me right). There really is very little to nothing to worry about in our wonderful world of 2600 collecting! Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
else Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 The ones that aren't shared are all dumped, aren't they?Like the Blue Sky Rangers games et al. And which one is being horded? Don't be a tease, we have a right to know! Cheers, Marco There are a few that are undumped as of this moment: Good Luck Charlie Brown - Hopefully very soon Pink Panther (2600) - Has the owner been found? Pink Panther (8-bit) - The owner doesn't want to dump or distribute it at this time Texas Chainsaw Massacre (original version) - Prototype whereabouts unknown All the M-Network protos cannot be shared as the copyright and program owners do not want them to be, although they are all dumped (I think). Tempest Wow -- I didn't realize this list was so short! That's pretty amazing when you think about it. And with GLCB about to be dumped, that only leaves three known protos out there!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 The ones that aren't shared are all dumped, aren't they?Like the Blue Sky Rangers games et al. And which one is being horded? Don't be a tease, we have a right to know! Cheers, Marco There are a few that are undumped as of this moment: Good Luck Charlie Brown - Hopefully very soon Pink Panther (2600) - Has the owner been found? Pink Panther (8-bit) - The owner doesn't want to dump or distribute it at this time Texas Chainsaw Massacre (original version) - Prototype whereabouts unknown All the M-Network protos cannot be shared as the copyright and program owners do not want them to be, although they are all dumped (I think). Tempest Wow -- I didn't realize this list was so short! That's pretty amazing when you think about it. And with GLCB about to be dumped, that only leaves three known protos out there!!! Yeah it's alot shorter than it used to be. People finally wised up I think and started releasing the games. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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