Thomas Jentzsch #1 Posted March 24, 2006 Does a PAL version of Imagic's Shootin' Gallery exist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #2 Posted March 25, 2006 Please, I need to know. Thanks in advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayhem #3 Posted March 25, 2006 In my CC2 menu I have this listed as Schiessbude (Shooting Gallery PAL) so you could give it a whirl... SHOOTGLP.BIN Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #4 Posted March 25, 2006 Nope, that's a completely different game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #5 Posted March 25, 2006 I don't believe so. I remember reading it was one of the few Imagic games without a PAL release. I wonder why that is? Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #6 Posted March 25, 2006 I don't believe so. I remember reading it was one of the few Imagic games without a PAL release. I wonder why that is? I don't know, but I found out that Sky Patrol contains some Shootin' Gallery code AND this code is obviously PAL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tempest #7 Posted March 25, 2006 I don't believe so. I remember reading it was one of the few Imagic games without a PAL release. I wonder why that is? I don't know, but I found out that Sky Patrol contains some Shootin' Gallery code AND this code is obviously PAL. Really? How much code? I don't see any relation between the two games. Tempest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #8 Posted March 25, 2006 Really? How much code? I don't see any relation between the two games. About 25%. Most likely the EPROM was used for Shootin' Gallery PAL before and the unused parts where kept intact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayhem #9 Posted March 25, 2006 Hmmm guess I'll have to change that in me menu then... any idea what game the PAL version I uploaded here actually is then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #10 Posted March 25, 2006 (edited) That's a pirate of Carnival from Coleco. Edited March 25, 2006 by Thomas Jentzsch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YOK-dfa #11 Posted March 25, 2006 I've never heard of nor seen a PAL Shooting Gallery. If it does exist, it's a very rare cart Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #12 Posted March 26, 2006 Now we know that a PAL release was at least scheduled. So maybe a cart exists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nukey Shay #13 Posted March 26, 2006 I dunno...that's a big maybe. I'd just guess that one borrowed heavily from the other. Especially since each game was programmed by different people. Without sources, how could you tell between written and edited? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #14 Posted March 26, 2006 I dunno...that's a big maybe. I'd just guess that one borrowed heavily from the other. Especially since each game was programmed by different people. Without sources, how could you tell between written and edited? There are parts of code inside the 1st bank of Sky Patrol which are unused by the prototype (usually at the end of a page). Those parts contain 1:1 Shootin' Gallery code, except for the color values, which are adapted to PAL values. IMO that's a pretty positive evidence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #15 Posted March 26, 2006 Here is a PAL conversion based on the color values I found inside the Sky Patrol prototype. Shootin___Arcade__PAL_conversion_by_Thomas_Jentzsch_.bin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayhem #16 Posted March 26, 2006 Interesting, will check it out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atariboy2600 #17 Posted March 26, 2006 Some time ago I drew the label art. I think I should complet it soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CPUWIZ #18 Posted March 26, 2006 Totally different game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+RandomPerson #19 Posted March 26, 2006 Totally different game. But a damn good one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+Marc Oberhäuser #20 Posted March 27, 2006 Does a PAL version of Imagic's Shootin' Gallery exist? Never seen one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirantho #21 Posted March 27, 2006 None have been reported on the PAL database... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #22 Posted March 27, 2006 According to www.atarimania.com there are quite a few southamerican Shootin' Gallery PAL-M releases. Unfortunately none of them seem to have been dumped yet. I wonder, if those hacks are based on the NTSC or on the lost(?) PAL version. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sr. Ferraz #23 Posted March 28, 2006 Brazil has cartridges of some manufacturers with this game. The name of the game can be a little different in the cartridge because the companies modified. In Brazil the system of color from TV is PAL-M, similar to the NTSC because the frequency also is 60 Hertz (60 Hz). Brazil is the only country of the world that uses system PAL-M. The console internally is NTSC, exists an alteration for the PAL-M through a decoder in the plate of circuit and the change of the 'crystal'. The cartridges below are NTSC but manufactured in Brazil, also appears the name "Imagic" in the TV. I tested with an original Atari Jr. and the image was perfect. (NTSC) In the cartridge of the manufacturer "Videospot" the name of the game is 'Shotting Gallery' and in the one of the manufacturer "Datasoft" the name of the game is 'Shooting Galery'. I have cartridges with some games (type 32 in 1) that they has this game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thomas Jentzsch #24 Posted March 28, 2006 In the cartridge of the manufacturer "Videospot" the name of the game is 'Shotting Gallery' and in the one of the manufacturer "Datasoft" the name of the game is 'Shooting Galery'. I have cartridges with some games (type 32 in 1) that they has this game. Have you dumped any of those Shooting Galery games? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sr. Ferraz #25 Posted March 31, 2006 Dear friend Thomas, I don't have as to make this. Forgives for delay to answer. The image from TV is the same one of the manufacturer "Imagic". Excellent day for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites