8th lutz #1 Posted April 3, 2006 Here is the link: http://www.gameinformer.com/NR/exeres/9CD1...2E87EB8CBDD.htm. I think it is waste of time. Japanese gamers will never accept them due to microsofts name and american gaming companies have a difficult time to sell games over there that are console makers. Japanese gamers have different tastes in games then american gamers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyper_Eye #2 Posted April 3, 2006 MS needs the Japanese game makers and the Japanese game makers want to keep selling to the Japanese market. MS should do everything they can to make it happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Brasky #3 Posted April 3, 2006 The Japanese are a bunch of mutha#$%&*ing console RACISTS!!! I'm going to start a new organization, the NAAAC, the National Association for the Advancement of American Consoles, to promote console equality and console harmony in Japan. Our slogan, "A console is a terrible thing to waste". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+remowilliams #4 Posted April 3, 2006 Let's face it - unless MS somehow comes up with a huge lineup of bad JRPGs featuring big headed, big haired whiny emo heroes - the market is lost to them. Or they rebrand it as Hitachi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaggy the Atarian #5 Posted April 3, 2006 Let's face it - unless MS somehow comes up with a huge lineup of bad JRPGs featuring big headed, big haired whiny emo heroes - the market is lost to them. At the same time it's both sad and true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starscream #6 Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) The Japanese are a bunch of mutha#$%&*ing console RACISTS!!! I'm going to start a new organization, the NAAAC, the National Association for the Advancement of American Consoles, to promote console equality and console harmony in Japan. Our slogan, "A console is a terrible thing to waste". lmao NAAAC, not bad. Honestly, I don't think racism is an issue. The iPod sells quite well I believe as well as a few other American products. It's more of a culture thing I would think. We don't like cartoon kid porn, they do. Remember, "Touching is good" We date for real, they play games to make believe they can get a date. Our games - We kill monsters, shoot druggies, have thugs, play sports. Their games - They plant flowers, have fake pets, and like swords 6 times bigger than their body, and fish. And those F'n blue skies in every damned game. How many damsels in distress can their possibly be? They have also worked hard for years to figure out ways to make even trees smaller in real life. I just think they are goofy. Cmon, dating sims?! Come to think of it, how many male Japanese porn stars have you ever seen? Maybe the big swords are a symbol for something that's missing....... MS just can't seem to get it right over there. I don't think the original Xbox problems with DDE and scratching have helped either. They expect quality like the rest of us, but that was a bad way to start. Let's face it - unless MS somehow comes up with a huge lineup of bad JRPGs featuring big headed, big haired whiny emo heroes - the market is lost to them. Don't forget, the cartoon kiddy porn :!: Edited April 3, 2006 by Starscream Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JB #7 Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) Let's face it - unless MS somehow comes up with a huge lineup of bad JRPGs featuring big headed, big haired whiny emo heroes - the market is lost to them. Or they rebrand it as Hitachi They have Bandai booked. They have Gundam games and Super Robot Wars as confirmed support. Neither is exactly a lightweight brand over there. Assuming Bandai throws them any more bones(they may well back off if the 360 doesn't pick up after their first 2 releases), they could potentially have a lot of major franchises. Bandai owns a LOT of anime and manga rights. Oh, yeah... the point... Big-haired whiny emo heroes are popular in anime, and japanese business is all about crosslicensing. If it can be merchandized, it will be. If it can't be... it will be anyways. So there's a source of material. Edited April 4, 2006 by JB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clint Thompson #8 Posted April 4, 2006 Yea, who knows wtf is up with MS thinking. Just get like Street Fighter series and some other madness also! Anime galore! Lets here it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spacecadet #9 Posted April 4, 2006 (edited) Wow, apparently some of you guys think the otaku is the dominant life form in Japan... I've got news for you - the success of systems like the SNES, PS2 and Nintendo DS hasn't been because of hentai and dating sims. There is a mass market there just like there is here. Most of you guys are talking about games way out on the fringe; that's not what sells systems in Japan, anymore than games like Playboy: The Mansion and The Guy Game are what sell systems here. I'm not convinced MS themselves even realize this. They're mainly relying on third-party developers to prop the system up there, but third-party developers are going to make games based on the audience they think the system has. It's not in their interests to try to sell Xboxes - that's MS's job. It's in their interests to sell games. So if they think Xbox 360's are owned by the hardest of the hardcore in Japan, and the otaku, and westerners living in Japan, then that is the kind of game they will develop. (Hence stuff like DOA4 and Ninety Nine Nights.) This is not going to help MS sell systems. Both Sony and Nintendo have large home-grown first-party development. They can create their own audience. They can be proactive, and that makes all the difference. What's driving sales of the DS? In large part, it's the Brain Training series, which is appealing to non-gamers and women in ways that no Xbox 360 game ever will. Nintendo themselves saw that untapped potential and they went out and made a series of "games" to exploit it. MS has no capacity to do this in Japan, and consequently they have no ability to alter the public image of their system in Japan. It will never sell there. It's not because they don't put out enough hentai, and it's sure not because the Japanese are "racist". It's because MS neither understands the mass market in Japan nor do they have the capacity to do anything about it even if they did understand it. Edited April 4, 2006 by spacecadet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8th lutz #10 Posted April 4, 2006 Microsoft needs to make a brain training game for Japanese gamers. Those type of games has having been the top 10 selling games for months in Japan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sega saturn x #11 Posted April 4, 2006 and Super Robot Wars as confirmed support. Huzza! Overall I have read some remarkably stupid things in this thread. And spacecadet pretty much hit the nail on the head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+FujiSkunk #12 Posted April 4, 2006 Overall I have read some remarkably stupid things in this thread. And spacecadet pretty much hit the nail on the head. Seconded. Oh wait, was that supposed to be "Me, too!"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjarabbit #13 Posted April 4, 2006 The only way the 360 would sell in Japan is if Bill Gates himself personally went to Japan, sold every 360 himself, and bowed apologized for the mistakes X Box and the 360. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtticGamer #14 Posted April 5, 2006 (edited) Microsoft has a different way of working and thinking that of the Japanese companies, that reflects in the kind of games they put in the system, the lack of anime games and rpgs is very bad for a console that needs to be successfull on Japan. And I think they (like me) hate Bill Gates . I guess it's a lost cause. Edited April 5, 2006 by Atari_kid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyper_Eye #15 Posted April 5, 2006 I don't hate Bill Gates... I don't know him. I would be willing to bet you have never met the guy either. I do hate crappy products. So... I don't run Windows. I run Linux and OS X. I do own a XBox and 360 though as I consider those to be good products. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Tomlin #16 Posted April 5, 2006 Sorry, Microsoft, no mulligans. As long as they call it "xbox", it will still fail. X = batsu = wrong, penalty X in a box = 凶 = bad luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtariJr #17 Posted April 5, 2006 Wow, apparently some of you guys think the otaku is the dominant life form in Japan... I've got news for you - the success of systems like the SNES, PS2 and Nintendo DS hasn't been because of hentai and dating sims. There is a mass market there just like there is here. Most of you guys are talking about games way out on the fringe; that's not what sells systems in Japan, anymore than games like Playboy: The Mansion and The Guy Game are what sell systems here. I'm not convinced MS themselves even realize this. They're mainly relying on third-party developers to prop the system up there, but third-party developers are going to make games based on the audience they think the system has. It's not in their interests to try to sell Xboxes - that's MS's job. It's in their interests to sell games. So if they think Xbox 360's are owned by the hardest of the hardcore in Japan, and the otaku, and westerners living in Japan, then that is the kind of game they will develop. (Hence stuff like DOA4 and Ninety Nine Nights.) This is not going to help MS sell systems. Both Sony and Nintendo have large home-grown first-party development. They can create their own audience. They can be proactive, and that makes all the difference. What's driving sales of the DS? In large part, it's the Brain Training series, which is appealing to non-gamers and women in ways that no Xbox 360 game ever will. Nintendo themselves saw that untapped potential and they went out and made a series of "games" to exploit it. MS has no capacity to do this in Japan, and consequently they have no ability to alter the public image of their system in Japan. It will never sell there. It's not because they don't put out enough hentai, and it's sure not because the Japanese are "racist". It's because MS neither understands the mass market in Japan nor do they have the capacity to do anything about it even if they did understand it. Thank you GOD for saying that. And no offense, but M$ has enough money, let them "suffer" (which is bs, cuase they get plenty of money in america and europe). theyll never be able to change their image or else DOA 4 and Ridge Racer would have sold milllions of 360s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites