How many "bits" do you consider the Jag and N64 to be?

[ZylonBane]

It's like arguing about whether the 7800 is really a "ProSystem", or the 5200 is a "SuperSystem".

Oh come on-- next you'll be saying there's no such thing as Blast Processing.

[LocalH]

This thread sucks about as much as the use of megabits instead of megabytes, simply to make cart sizes seem bigger.

[ZylonBane]

No, it sucks far far worse, because the translation between megabits and megabytes is clearly defined.

[shadow460]

Evidently it is time to lock this thread. The original question was simply what bit era the Jag and N64 are part of (not how many bits they actually are), and it was answered with a list from Wikipedia.

 

Thanks for your participation--my question has been answered.

[Gregory DG]

Evidently it is time to lock this thread.

Every "Is the Jaguar 64-bit?" thread should be locked immediately.

[guitarmas]

I'm going to agree.

[shadow460]

Evidently it is time to lock this thread.

Every "Is the Jaguar 64-bit?" thread should be locked immediately.

 

That's not what I asked, and anyone who read my original post knows that. If I had asked that, I would have said nothing about the Nintendo 64.

Edited May 21, 2006 by shadow460

[AtariJr]

It's like arguing about whether the 7800 is really a "ProSystem", or the 5200 is a "SuperSystem".

Oh come on-- next you'll be saying there's no such thing as Blast Processing.

 

Theres no such thing as blast processing...

Sonic is a figment of your imagination

and the Jaguar is technically what they said it was.. is it an n64.. no...

[NovaXpress]

Did you kids see SomethingAwful yesterday? here's a taste . . .

 

Video Game Article has just received a surprising press release from Atari:

 

After thirteen years and countless fond memories, we have decided to officially halt production on the Jaguar video game console.

 

Who can forget the games? White Men Can't Jump, Evolution: Dino Dudes, Bubsy In Fractured Fairy Tails, Troy Aikman NFL Football, and the legendary Brett Hull Hockey. . .

 

. . . By doing the math, intelligent gamers realized that the two 32-bit chips in our system made the Jaguar the first 64-bit console on the market, making our games better than games on other systems by a margin of lots of bits. Personal computers have only recently caught up to the power of the Jaguar with their newly released 64-bit microprocessors, proving how far ahead of the curve we were. . .

 

. . . Beginning in 1996, we began a focused marketing campaign, capturing the key market of people who use the restroom at the Shell station down the street from my house.

Ouch.

[Gregory DG]

Every "Is the Jaguar 64-bit?" thread should be locked immediately.

That's not what I asked, and anyone who read my original post knows that. If I had asked that, I would have said nothing about the Nintendo 64.

It doesn't matter what the original question was (and I did read it.) Any thread that so much as hints at the Jaguar's bitness will degenerate into an endless stream of incessant nonsense.

[NovaXpress]

Yeah, and if we wanted incessant nonsense we'd be creating non-stop threads about the PS3 vs 360 vs Wii.

[Bryan]

How many "bits" (you don't need to use quotes, since you're using bit literally) do I consider the Jag and N64 to be? Well, if you have a Jag and an N64, then you obviously have 128 bits.

 

-Bry

[AtariJr]

"who can forget White Men Cant Jump"

 

 

 

everyone is trying, at least who have been cursed to have to play the game....

[shadow460]

Any thread that so much as hints at the Jaguar's bitness will degenerate into an endless stream of incessant nonsense.

 

I was afraid of that, here, too.

 

How many "bits" (you don't need to use quotes, since you're using bit literally) do I consider the Jag and N64 to be? Well, if you have a Jag and an N64, then you obviously have 128 bits.

 

-Bry

 

[+batari]

. . . By doing the math, intelligent gamers realized that the two 32-bit chips in our system made the Jaguar the first 64-bit console on the market, making our games better than games on other systems by a margin of lots of bits. Personal computers have only recently caught up to the power of the Jaguar with their newly released 64-bit microprocessors, proving how far ahead of the curve we were. . .

WOW! A 13-year old Jag is more powerful than a 32-bit 3 Ghz P4. Forget benchmarks. Forget the P4's 100 million transistors compared with the Jag's 1.3 million in its two 32-bit chips. Forget cache size, clock speed, memory speed, pipelines, and bus speed. None of this matters because you can add bits. And bits, especially "lots of bits" is the true measure of the power of a system. Thanks, Atari marketing, for pointing this out, as I'm apparently not an "intelligent gamer."

 

(This was supposed to be funny - don't get offended, please.)

[AtariJr]

. . . By doing the math, intelligent gamers realized that the two 32-bit chips in our system made the Jaguar the first 64-bit console on the market, making our games better than games on other systems by a margin of lots of bits. Personal computers have only recently caught up to the power of the Jaguar with their newly released 64-bit microprocessors, proving how far ahead of the curve we were. . .

WOW! A 13-year old Jag is more powerful than a 32-bit 3 Ghz P4. Forget benchmarks. Forget the P4's 100 million transistors compared with the Jag's 1.3 million in its two 32-bit chips. Forget cache size, clock speed, memory speed, pipelines, and bus speed. None of this matters because you can add bits. And bits, especially "lots of bits" is the true measure of the power of a system. Thanks, Atari marketing, for pointing this out, as I'm apparently not an "intelligent gamer."

 

(This was supposed to be funny - don't get offended, please.)

 

I think they were comparing thier jag to the last computer THEY used... which was probably one of thier own making the jag look very impressive

[Video]

The Jaguar is, from a technical standpoint, a 64 bit console. Even though it cheated, it could handle a 64 bit chunk of code.

 

If you mean what era it was in, then it was clearly in the 16 bit era. It competed with the Snes and Genesis. I don't remember for sure when the 32X and 3DO come out, but I think they were around the same area too.

 

While the N64 was in the 32 bit era.

 

As for Bittage, it doesn't really matter anyways. Look at the modern consoles. The PS2 and GameCube are both 128 machines. While the X-Box and X-Box 360 are both 32 Bit consoles.

 

The X-Box just processes Data about 3-4 times as fast at 733 (correct me if I'm wrong) while the PS2 does it's 128 at what? 180 or something like that? I don't remember the PS2, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on the X-Box.

 

Technically, if you could make an 8 bit console that could process enough cycles per second, you could still have it compete with the best of modern day consoles. But that'll never happen, as programmers today would be more used to dealing with 32 bit and not really know what to do with less.

[NovaXpress]

Remember the insane "does the 5200 have a frame buffer" argument from a couple months ago? That went smoother than this.

[AtticGamer]

64 Bits, both.

[Bryan]

Remember the insane "does the 5200 have a frame buffer" argument from a couple months ago? That went smoother than this.

 

Yeah, too bad it got locked. Wheee!!!!

 

-Bry

[sega saturn x]

Did you kids see SomethingAwful yesterday? here's a taste . . .

 

Video Game Article has just received a surprising press release from Atari:

 

After thirteen years and countless fond memories, we have decided to officially halt production on the Jaguar video game console.

 

Who can forget the games? White Men Can't Jump, Evolution: Dino Dudes, Bubsy In Fractured Fairy Tails, Troy Aikman NFL Football, and the legendary Brett Hull Hockey. . .

 

. . . By doing the math, intelligent gamers realized that the two 32-bit chips in our system made the Jaguar the first 64-bit console on the market, making our games better than games on other systems by a margin of lots of bits. Personal computers have only recently caught up to the power of the Jaguar with their newly released 64-bit microprocessors, proving how far ahead of the curve we were. . .

 

. . . Beginning in 1996, we began a focused marketing campaign, capturing the key market of people who use the restroom at the Shell station down the street from my house.

Ouch.

This kind of creativley bankrupt crap is why I avoid something awful (well that and the 6 million links to J list. Hey lowtax STOP LOOKING AT SO MUCH PORN!). Everyone here knows I'm far from jagfan (shocking I know) but making fun of a failures like the jag really isn't funny. It's just to easy to be funny.

[+remowilliams]

Video Game Article has just received a surprising press release from Atari:

 

. . . Beginning in 1996, we began a focused marketing campaign, capturing the key market of people who use the restroom at the Shell station down the street from my house.

Ouch.

Well, they definitely nailed Atari's marketing finesse!

[shadow460]

The Jaguar is, from a technical standpoint, a 64 bit console. Even though it cheated, it could handle a 64 bit chunk of code.

 

Couldn't agree more. Atari says its 64 bit, and I believe 'em.

 

If you mean what era it was in, then it was clearly in the 16 bit era. It competed with the Snes and Genesis. I don't remember for sure when the 32X and 3DO come out, but I think they were around the same area too.

 

32X=Sega Jupiter, which was practically co produced with the Saturn. CD's were cheaper, so the Saturn got made into its own console, and Sega used the Jupiter as the 32X add on instead of throwing it away. It is in the 32 bit era, along with the Saturn.

 

The X-Box just processes Data about 3-4 times as fast at 733 (correct me if I'm wrong) while the PS2 does it's 128 at what? 180 or something like that? I don't remember the PS2, but I'm pretty sure I'm right on the X-Box.

The PS2 has two processors, each roughly equal to a Celeron 350.

Edited May 22, 2006 by shadow460

[n8littlefield]

Ready to hear what a gullible idiot I am? I say they are both 64 bits because that is what's printed on them. I figure if they say they're 64 bits, who am I to disagree?

[AtariJr]

Ready to hear what a gullible idiot I am? I say they are both 64 bits because that is what's printed on them. I figure if they say they're 64 bits, who am I to disagree?

 

yea its not like its false advertising... its just how functional those 64 chips are and how they are used that make the n64 more powerful than the jag...

 

btw this is a useless thread that doesnt matter at all... why did you bring this up