isn't it rare to know someone with............

[shadow460]

OK, I'm a solid N64 fan, but I will rip on it now.

The N64 is a good classic system today because of the quality graphics and game selection it offers. The game prices are in line with other systems of the time.

N64 wasn't too good at launch because of a couple of things:

One, the games cost an outrageous amount. Who in their right mind is going to spend $60 on a game that might suck? Even up into 2000, there were plenty of $60 titles out there. Add to that the fact that Nintendo is catering to kids in a way, and the games all have a limit on their content due to the cartridge format.

That tells me my $60 is likely to buy some gimmicky kid title that I won't enjoy much (like Pokemon). So my hard eanred money is spent on a couple of Saturn or PS1 games.

Now that the games are much cheaper, its easier to collect for. The N64's graphical quality and the way some games like Zelda V just draw you in make it a very worthwhile system to play even now.

I hate how the NOD ending of Command and Conquer is rendered, and the way it has a cheesy voice over with still pictures in the storyline. I'd have been very upset at spending $60 on that. But now, knowing the game's whole story (thanks to the Saturn version), I don't care about video, and I get to appreciate the N64's very different gameplay. I get to appreciate how it plays smooth instead of slowing down.

Where's the FMV in Star Fox? Great game, yes, but the "FMV" is just oo kiddish. And don't get me started on Goldeneye. That is supposed to be Pierce Brosnan? Come on!

With the N64's faults in mind, I feel like it deserved to wind up in second or third place in its generation. However, it is now perhaps the only system worthy of representing the 32 bit generation in our current lineup of classic systems (I'm a big Saturn fan, by the way).

[narutofan]

 

 

The only N64 game anyone needs.

So, is sin and punishment the title, or is it in Japanese?

 

 

OCARINA OF TIME ROCKS!!!!

sorry, just had to. I would buy an N64 just for this game

Edited June 23, 2006 by narutofan

[Video]

Yeah, I know the 64 controllers work pretty good. Actually, I had a great working set of controllers for years. My first 64 was a green Donkey Kong one, and I still have the controller for that, it still works, but it is starting to lean and not near as responsive as it used to be.

 

The problem is, the green one, was MY controller. When frends come over, I wouldn't let anybody else mess with mine. And it lasted for about 4 years wit no problems at all. The other controllers pretty much died, cause people just don't know how to use them, but at the $30, I had better things to pay for than a new controller every time one broke.

 

Had my controller actually broken while controllers wer still being sold locally, I would have bought a new one, and still be playing regularly, however, the new controller would probably be going out at this point, but anyhow...

 

The only other controller I had, that still works great is some Power Pad, big ass stingray looking fat bastard. That controller is awesome, but it got lost when we moved, and as far as I know, I don't have it anymore. But it was the most reliable pad I had. Wish I knew the brand, I'd definately see about picking one up.

 

As for games, I'd like to know where people got the $60 price from. Seriously, Nintendo is the first company to put a price cap on games, and it was $50, I never payed more than $49.99 for any of the 64 games (not counting taxes of course) but as far as I know, it was back in the SNES days when Nintendo installed that policy, and their games have never been over $50 since. Also, no other company has taken on that policy, officially. They all dropped to $50 just to keep sales up, but your starting to see some (like Microsoft) come back to the $60, and probably higher in the near future. But to this day, I have no Idea where the bitching about how "expensive" nintendo's games were, especially when people list a price the games simply never were.

 

Cool that Nintendo still sells 64 controllers, I'll think about buying a set. But it'll be a tough decesion, new controller to play 64, or new game or three for something else....

[sega saturn x]

So, is sin and punishment the title, or is it in Japanese?

Ummm....the japanese characters would have to translate into something wouldn't they?

[narutofan]

So, is sin and punishment the title, or is it in Japanese?

Ummm....the japanese characters would have to translate into something wouldn't they?

Yeah, but sometimes it will have the titile in english, and some japanese writing

[Atariboy]

"As for games, I'd like to know where people got the $60 price from. Seriously, Nintendo is the first company to put a price cap on games, and it was $50, I never payed more than $49.99 for any of the 64 games (not counting taxes of course) but as far as I know, it was back in the SNES days when Nintendo installed that policy, and their games have never been over $50 since"

 

Not true at all. Most 1st party Nintendo titles were $59.99 even in 2000 (Majora's Mask launched at that price for example). And i remember games going for $79.99 at launch, though rather or not that was the MSRP I don't know.

[AtariJr]

"As for games, I'd like to know where people got the $60 price from. Seriously, Nintendo is the first company to put a price cap on games, and it was $50, I never payed more than $49.99 for any of the 64 games (not counting taxes of course) but as far as I know, it was back in the SNES days when Nintendo installed that policy, and their games have never been over $50 since"

 

Not true at all. Most 1st party Nintendo titles were $59.99 even in 2000 (Majora's Mask launched at that price for example). And i remember games going for $79.99 at launch, though rather or not that was the MSRP I don't know.

 

Really, i got Majora at launch even on presale for 49.99 btw, to who ever said there were no good shooters, i still play Star Soldier all the time... it was very fun

[sega saturn x]

So, is sin and punishment the title, or is it in Japanese?

Ummm....the japanese characters would have to translate into something wouldn't they?

Yeah, but sometimes it will have the titile in english, and some japanese writing

Just as a rule of thumb if there are two titles they generally mean the same thing. Just trying to help.

[AtariJr]

Oh come on.. they should mean two seperate things to mess with people

 

Btw.. MANY games that have no plan to come to america and stay in japan dont have english titles under the japanese title. Most of the time its just for the "cool factor" as english is considered cool in japan. Its not to help us out.

[MCHufnagel]

"As for games, I'd like to know where people got the $60 price from. Seriously, Nintendo is the first company to put a price cap on games, and it was $50, I never payed more than $49.99 for any of the 64 games (not counting taxes of course) but as far as I know, it was back in the SNES days when Nintendo installed that policy, and their games have never been over $50 since"

 

Not true at all. Most 1st party Nintendo titles were $59.99 even in 2000 (Majora's Mask launched at that price for example). And i remember games going for $79.99 at launch, though rather or not that was the MSRP I don't know.

 

Really, i got Majora at launch even on presale for 49.99 btw, to who ever said there were no good shooters, i still play Star Soldier all the time... it was very fun

You can always find a cheaper price when a new game is being promoted. But really $59.99 was the price for most games, and I still have the Nintendo Power ads to prove it! I too like Star Soldier, but how many other "traditional-type" shooters were released in the USA? I really can't think of any.

 

I really like my N64, and I have around 50+ games for it. But using carts for such a powerful system was sad. Just think of the kinds of things it could have done, freed from the restrictions of carts. To me the N64 is a "love it or hate it" system. From the controllers, to using carts, to just being a Nintendo system, I just don't know anyone who is neutral to it.

[AtariJr]

i personally take pride in liking sega and nintendo. I feel that they are some of the few game and system makers that feel that they, A. dont have to create games with blood and whores to sell, and B. actually value their customers and dont think people will buy whatever they crap out of their ass. Nintendo games feel like time was spent on them, and that there is a bit of heart in them that someone spent countless hours trying to complete... please tell me that there is a difference in quality between a game like starfox 64 and a game like star wars starfighter.

 

As far as carts, i miss the FMVs that were lacking in n64 games, but then again nintendo , including the GC, has at least not had a plague of load times in their system's games.

 

The controller i loved at the time.. really thought it was so futuristic compaired to my lame snes pad. Now i see that the joysticks dont last and the dpad is in never never land are a pain... but honestly, there are so many games, 1st and 3rd party, that made this system worth owning, that i think its immature and uneducated to make a claim and a topic saying basically that noone should have more than a few games for the system (tyring to get back on topic). Despite hardware flaws the games on this system were fun, and felt more complete in my mind then most of the seemingly rushed games of the psx. im not saying the psx is a bad system mind you, just trying to make the point that the n64 shouldnt be viewed as trash compaired to it.

 

If you want a system to have no more than a few games for lets talk about the cd-i... not a quality system that had a long healthy life...

Edited June 25, 2006 by AtariJr

[ninjarabbit]

As the proud owner of 41 N64 games and the N64 was my favorite system of its era. It aged much better than the PS1 and had my favorite games of its era: Goldeneye/Perfect Dark, Ogre Battle 64, WWF No Mercy (still the best domestic wrestling game), the LoZ games, Super Mario 64, Kirby 64, and the controller was perfect for 3-D platformers and FPSs.

[Video]

"As for games, I'd like to know where people got the $60 price from. Seriously, Nintendo is the first company to put a price cap on games, and it was $50, I never payed more than $49.99 for any of the 64 games (not counting taxes of course) but as far as I know, it was back in the SNES days when Nintendo installed that policy, and their games have never been over $50 since"

 

Not true at all. Most 1st party Nintendo titles were $59.99 even in 2000 (Majora's Mask launched at that price for example). And i remember games going for $79.99 at launch, though rather or not that was the MSRP I don't know.

 

Really, i got Majora at launch even on presale for 49.99 btw, to who ever said there were no good shooters, i still play Star Soldier all the time... it was very fun

You can always find a cheaper price when a new game is being promoted. But really $59.99 was the price for most games, and I still have the Nintendo Power ads to prove it! I too like Star Soldier, but how many other "traditional-type" shooters were released in the USA? I really can't think of any.

 

I really like my N64, and I have around 50+ games for it. But using carts for such a powerful system was sad. Just think of the kinds of things it could have done, freed from the restrictions of carts. To me the N64 is a "love it or hate it" system. From the controllers, to using carts, to just being a Nintendo system, I just don't know anyone who is neutral to it.

 

Well, maybe Nintendo didn't put the price cap on the games in other countries, but in the USA, the games were all definately capped at $50, at least where I live, SE OKlahoma. Now, that's what they cost here, and the SMRP, however, I guess whoever you bought the games from could still charge what they felt like. It's just that if any store in your areas sold it at the right price ($50) then no other stores would sell it for higher.

 

 

i personally take pride in liking sega and nintendo. I feel that they are some of the few game and system makers that feel that they, A. dont have to create games with blood and whores to sell, and B. actually value their customers and dont think people will buy whatever they crap out of their ass. Nintendo games feel like time was spent on them, and that there is a bit of heart in them that someone spent countless hours trying to complete... please tell me that there is a difference in quality between a game like starfox 64 and a game like star wars starfighter.

 

As far as carts, i miss the FMVs that were lacking in n64 games, but then again nintendo , including the GC, has at least not had a plague of load times in their system's games.

 

The controller i loved at the time.. really thought it was so futuristic compaired to my lame snes pad. Now i see that the joysticks dont last and the dpad is in never never land are a pain... but honestly, there are so many games, 1st and 3rd party, that made this system worth owning, that i think its immature and uneducated to make a claim and a topic saying basically that noone should have more than a few games for the system (tyring to get back on topic). Despite hardware flaws the games on this system were fun, and felt more complete in my mind then most of the seemingly rushed games of the psx. im not saying the psx is a bad system mind you, just trying to make the point that the n64 shouldnt be viewed as trash compaired to it.

 

If you want a system to have no more than a few games for lets talk about the cd-i... not a quality system that had a long healthy life...

 

 

Darn streight, the 64 was an awesome system, especially game wise. When I play classic games, I'd rather play 64 games than PSX games, not saying they don't have good ones, cause I love quiet a few myself, But the 64 has definately aged better. With it's anti alising, if nothing else, that helped a lot of the games, graphically. Yeah, you can get that for PSX games with the PS2, or Bleem on a few, but the original system didn't do it.

 

And Nintendo has always hidden load times rather well. I'll admit to that, I don't much like the game cube, but it's loading is awesome.

[keilbaca]

I only got 3 games... but the place I'm moving in with loves the N64, so I plan on getting a bunch more games once I find a job when I get out of the military.

 

Oh and I have 3 newly working controllers, including one see through green one.

[Atariboy]

Nintendo had no such price cap in the United States. The MSRP for many titles was over $50 in the United States.

[Happy_Dude]

Add to that the fact that Nintendo is catering to kids in a way, and the games all have a limit on their content due to the cartridge format.

Ever play Resident Evil 2.

I'd hardly call that kiddie. Or limited.

in fact the PS version took 2 C.D's for the N64's 1 cart.

[narutofan]

So, is sin and punishment the title, or is it in Japanese?

Ummm....the japanese characters would have to translate into something wouldn't they?

Yeah, but sometimes it will have the titile in english, and some japanese writing

Just as a rule of thumb if there are two titles they generally mean the same thing. Just trying to help.

Thanx, I think I'll check that game out