Does anyone have Ultima VI original uncracked images?

[VW]

I can't find this anywhere, only cracked versions of this game. I would give in and buy it on Ebay like I did Ultima V but I have never seen Ultima VI for ST on Ebay. If anyone could help out I would appreciate it, I have .ST files that I made from my original Ultima V disks with makedisk I would be glad to share.

Edited July 3, 2006 by VW

[Tempest]

I know Ultima VI had to have been released for the ST because I've seen pictures, but it must have been pretty rare because it is actually listed as unreleased on several sites. That's probably why you've never seen it on ebay. I'd like the images for it myself.

 

Tempest

[VW]

According to the Ultima Collector's Guide, Ultima VI for the ST was only released in Europe. I bought both Bard's Tale I and Ultima V for the ST from British people on Ebay though and they weren't that hard to buy so I'm not sure why Ultima VI seems to be so much rarer. I'll tell you if I ever find them.

[+DarkLord]

According to the Ultima Collector's Guide, Ultima VI for the ST was only released in Europe. I bought both Bard's Tale I and Ultima V for the ST from British people on Ebay though and they weren't that hard to buy so I'm not sure why Ultima VI seems to be so much rarer. I'll tell you if I ever find them.

 

I've got Ultima VI (6).

 

Bought it from a dealer here in the US when it was released, but I'm

uncertain as to whether or not he imported it, as was the case so

many times with ST titles...

 

Its hard drive installable and even runs on the Falcon....

 

I have to confess, I'm a bit disapporinted in the graphics in

certain sections of the games. It looks like they ported the EGA or

CGA images over without taking advantage of the Atari STs

hardware... They did 256 color VGA for the PC, I'd love to have

seen that for the Falcon!

[+remowilliams]

I've got Ultima VI (6).

 

Bought it from a dealer here in the US when it was released, but I'm

uncertain as to whether or not he imported it, as was the case so

many times with ST titles...

Cool

 

I'm assuming that UVI has copy protection like the others? Can you image the disks and see if they run - and Pasti image the disk that contains the physical protection if they don't?

 

I've only got the UVI from DBug. Not that I don't trust them - but...

[Tempest]

According to the Ultima Collector's Guide, Ultima VI for the ST was only released in Europe. I bought both Bard's Tale I and Ultima V for the ST from British people on Ebay though and they weren't that hard to buy so I'm not sure why Ultima VI seems to be so much rarer. I'll tell you if I ever find them.

 

I've got Ultima VI (6).

 

Bought it from a dealer here in the US when it was released, but I'm

uncertain as to whether or not he imported it, as was the case so

many times with ST titles...

 

Its hard drive installable and even runs on the Falcon....

 

I have to confess, I'm a bit disapporinted in the graphics in

certain sections of the games. It looks like they ported the EGA or

CGA images over without taking advantage of the Atari STs

hardware... They did 256 color VGA for the PC, I'd love to have

seen that for the Falcon!

 

I'm surprised they even bothered porting it to the ST since the market was pretty much dead by that point. Although both the ST and Amiga versions are pretty crappy ports, it's like they didn't even try. Like you said, the graphics are... lacking...

 

I guess I'll try playing this on a PC using DosBox.

 

Tempest

[+DarkLord]

 

I'm assuming that UVI has copy protection like the others? Can you image the disks and see if they run - and Pasti image the disk that contains the physical protection if they don't?

 

I've only got the UVI from DBug. Not that I don't trust them - but...

 

I'm not sure about the disks being copy protected. You can install it

on your hard drive. It doesn't ask for the original install disks after

that, that I can recall. Keep in mind, I've not gotten around to playing

it all the way through either!. Lord British will, from time to time, ask

you a question that you have to have the owners manuals to answer.

Something along the lines of making sure that your player character

is who they say they are...

 

I've got my Falcon apart right now - waiting to have the battery chip

socketed and replaced. I've still got my Mega ST that runs the BBS,

so I'd have to do it from there... Might be a bit, if you don't mind

waiting. I think I've got Hatari and STeem setup on my Linux laptop,

will have to look - I've not used either in a long time so I'm sure they

are older versions. I tend to prefer the "real" thing.

 

I've never used Pasti. Can you give me the lowdown on it? Details,

whatever? Thanks!

 

Just clue me in as to what to do and I'll try to get U6 available for all.

I hate to see any ST title slip into oblivion because an image could

not be found/made for it...

[Tempest]

BTW here are the answers to the questions:

 

What doth Trolls Lack?

Endurance

What part of the tangle vine doth put one to sleep?

Pod

How wert the headlesses produced?

Wizard

What valued item canst one find near the spawning grounds of Hydras?

Nightshade Mushroom

How canst one fend off Rotworms?

Torch

How doth Sea Serpents attack?

Fireballs

What creature art wisps oft mistaken for?

Firefly

How doth giant squids cruch their prey?

Beak

Where hath images of the Silver Serpent been seen?

Tomb walls

What art reapers remnants of?

Enchanted Forest

 

Mariah's Questions

 

For a native speaker of German, as I am, these questions are pretty funny.

 

What does the magic syllable 'Zu' mean?

Sleep

What does the magic syllable 'Quas' mean?

Illusion

What does the magic syllable 'Hur' mean?

Wind

What does the magic syllable 'Jux' mean?

Danger/Trap/Harm

What does the magic syllable 'Ort' mean?

Magic

 

Selganor's Questions

 

What kind of fork should mandrake roots be prepared with?

Silver

What part of the nightshade mushroom is used in spellcasting?

Cap

Where does Sulfurous Ash come from?

Volcanic Eruptions

What are the Black Pearls used for?

Kinetic propellent

 

 

 

Tempest

[+DarkLord]

BTW here are the answers to the questions:

Tempest

 

Well, thats certainly some help!

[+remowilliams]

Just clue me in as to what to do and I'll try to get U6 available for all.

I hate to see any ST title slip into oblivion because an image could

not be found/made for it...

Cool, I'm sure ijor would be interested in Pasti images of the originals as well

 

In the mean time I'll post the ones that I have here, in case anyone wants to look at 'em.

 

U6.zip

[+DarkLord]

Well, heck. I just went to the Pasti web site for the latest

version, and it says it won't run on a Falcon or TT030.

 

My Mega STe is down (needs a new power supply) right

now.

 

Guess I'll have to pull my BBS down and use the Mega ST

to try and do this. Its got an Adspeed (16mhz) accelerator

so that should help...

 

I'll let everyone know how it goes.

[+DarkLord]

 

Guess I'll have to pull my BBS down and use the Mega ST

to try and do this. Its got an Adspeed (16mhz) accelerator

so that should help...

 

 

Argh, Pasti won't even work with accelerators!

 

Geez, the Adspeed is just about as compatible as

you can get....

[+DarkLord]

 

Argh, Pasti won't even work with accelerators!

 

Geez, the Adspeed is just about as compatible as

you can get....

 

Well...okay, after thinking about it for a moment,

I guess its all got to do with disk timing, tied to

the original STs 8mhz CPU speed. Is that right?

 

Thanks, just curious...

 

PS Whats the AtariAge record for replying to ones

own posts?

[+remowilliams]

Well...okay, after thinking about it for a moment,

I guess its all got to do with disk timing, tied to

the original STs 8mhz CPU speed. Is that right?

Yup, it's all about that good old critical timing capture, acceleration would be a no-no

Edited July 6, 2006 by remowilliams

[ijor]

Argh, Pasti won't even work with accelerators!

 

Geez, the Adspeed is just about as compatible as

you can get....

 

Yeah, sorry about that. But you need a plain 8Mhz 68000. It is mentioned in the docs.

 

As you guessed, it performs very precise timing. It should be possible to make a version for the Falcon, Mega STe, etc. But I don't have any accelarated machine for development. And because of the strict timing requirements, it is not really possible to develop this without the actual hardware.

 

But I'd suppose that Adspeed can be disabled and put in non-accelerated mode. Or it can't?

 

Note btw that you wouldn't gain anything when using an accelerator with the Pasti Imaging tool. The time it takes to image a disk is dominated by the the floppy rotation speed. So even a CT60 version would take as much time as a plain ST one.

Edited July 5, 2006 by ijor

[+DarkLord]

 

Yeah, sorry about that. But you need a plain 8Mhz 68000. It is mentioned in the docs.

 

As you guessed, it performs very precise timing. It should be possible to make a version for the Falcon, Mega STe, etc. But I don't have any accelarated machine for development. And because of the strict timing requirements, it is not really possible to develop this without the actual hardware.

 

But I'd suppose that Adspeed can be disabled and put in non-accelerated mode. Or it can't?

 

Note btw that you wouldn't gain anything when using an accelerator with the Pasti Imaging tool. The time it takes to image a disk is dominated by the the floppy rotation speed. So even a CT60 version would take as much time as a plain ST one.

 

Hi. Well, it wasn't really a complaint - it seems to work just fine.

 

Yes, the Adspeed has either a CPX or ACC that will let you set 8mhz

or 16mhz speed "on the fly". Very nice.

 

Thats interesting to know. Thanks for posting the info about it.

 

BTW, this is the first time I've used Pasti ever - I used "auto" for

the settings. The resulting images seem...well, rather largish.

3 720k disks result in 3 images of 1.7 megs each. Is that pretty

normal? Also, is there a specific 3 letter extension that should

be used for Pasti images? (example, like *.ZIP for zipped archives).

 

Thank you very much.

[+DarkLord]

Okay, gang. Here are the 3 images from U6.

 

There are 3 floppy disks:

 

Install

Data disk 1

Data disk 2

 

They came out pretty large. I don't know if this

is normal or not. I used "auto" for Pasti's settings.

 

I didn't have time to test them out in any shape,

form, or fashion what-so-ever. Let me know if they

work okay.

 

Thanks!

 

PS I also wasn't sure what extension to use for

naming them?

Edited July 5, 2006 by DarkLord

[+DarkLord]

Okay, I give up.

 

For some reason, I can't upload any of the

images.

 

I first tried uploading all 3. I used the file

attachments menu, browsed, found it, picked

it, it took a minute or so up upload, then I picked

"Add This Attachment", just like I do with pictures

except they are not showing up. I tried it with one

single image at at time, as well, with the same

results.

 

Anyone have any ideas?

 

Thanks.....

[ijor]

3 720k disks result in 3 images of 1.7 megs each. Is that pretty normal?

 

Yep. Tipically the size will be about twice the capacity. Pasti must store much more information than just the sector data.

 

Also, is there a specific 3 letter extension that should be used for Pasti images?

 

The extension is "*.STX". It should be there be default when using the file selector.

 

For some reason, I can't upload any of the images

 

Probably because of the file extensions. Most forums accept only certain type of files as attachments. Make a zip archive of all the files (or 3 zip files, one for each Pasti image), and then try to post the zip file(s).

[+remowilliams]

Yep. Tipically the size will be about twice the capacity. Pasti must store much more information than just the sector data.

One thing I've noticed - if I Pasti image a game, say Dive Bomber (SS disk) - the resulting .stx is >800K. Yet I have seen a 'pre-made' Pasti image of the same game and it is much smaller ~400K. Same goes for many games I've imaged.

 

Is there an internal compressor tool that isn't available in the general release, or is this due to other factors?

[+DarkLord]

Okay, here we go again...

 

<sigh>....still not go, and I put them all

in a directory, zipped it up, and it came to

just 2.7 megs or so...

 

but it still doesn't get here....

Edited July 6, 2006 by DarkLord

[+DarkLord]

Trying again, this time with Firefox...

 

No difference...

 

 

 

Well, a small picture works - so it has to

be something to do with size?.......

Edited July 6, 2006 by DarkLord

[+remowilliams]

Big thanks DarkLord, this is very cool - I've never seen the original pre installed copies of this game!

Edited July 6, 2006 by remowilliams

[+DarkLord]

Again....

 

U6_DD1.zip

[+DarkLord]

Number 2....

 

U6_DD2.zip