Mr_8bit_16bit #51 Posted July 22, 2006 (edited) 8/16 you just repeating the same lame argument over and over, like I (you) said, blah, blah. One gets bored reading your reply, as it's just drivel, skipped 3/4 of it....But don't shake your head if you don't believe in yourself. (Don't be so nervous, this is only a poll) One joke you made:and the N64's performance is typical of a late 90's/early D2K system. Haha, I've seen (I have) early 90s PC stuff better than N64's lame performance. Gosh, I have PSX titles outperforming N64 feeble efforts Or you just don't understand the question: Who made the best 64 bit system. Shrug shoulders won't help you either, I didn't put the question. On second thoughts, the N64 is way old, based on 1980s Silicon Graphics technology. Maybe you are right after all, a Jaguar/N64 comparison is not valid, N64 is more comparable to Intellivision and you lost the argument because you resort to abuse?!? But leave God out of it, he's just a devil in disguise The typical tight voiced reply of a man backed in a corner. Oh BTW...concerning repeating the same old mindless drivel? Hey Pot, I'm Kettle. You're Black! GOD BLESS. Edited July 22, 2006 by Mr_8bit_16bit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #52 Posted July 23, 2006 It looks like the already narrow gap between SNES and Genesis is getting narrower and narrower. Could it be that the SNES will prevail? It'll be interesting. I am honestly surprised, and a little disappointed that the popular opinion regards the SMS so poorly. In my mind's eye, I saw the SMS where the 7800 is and vice versa. I am not in the least bit surprised though to see the Jaguar floundering in the polls next to the itself somewhat disappointing N64. That I totally expected. (to be fair, I expected the 16-bit war to be neck and neck as well.) Not that I'm in any way Anti-Jaguar or even Anti-7800, just to be perfectly clear. I have both systems and I get some enjoyment from both, especially the 7800 for it's 2600 backcompat mostly, the 7800 on it's own merits doesn't do a whole lot for me either (though Food Fight is a blast!) My collection is better with them both in it. They are not bad by any means, they are just merely the least of all good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thomasholzer #53 Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) First reply: I was never backed into a corner, where did you get that idea? Tight voiced reply, don't think so. Just facts really (But the truth always hurts). You're a kettle? Can you whistle? I'm black, not the last time I checked. Who's Pot? Pol Pot, hero of yours perhaps? Glad I won this argument, GOD BLESS* Had to submit your ramblings here, http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=73115, maybe you'll be famous after this. Second reply: Mmh, looks like you're talking more sense now. See, a little calm goes a long way. Don't make yourself an enemy of forums, you will only regret it. Exactly my saying, all systems rock (See you DO understand, that is why we are here on this board). But unfortunally there are always people who start knocking other systems, this seems to be a Nintendo fanboy speciality (Unless you Nintendo guys prove me wrong). I mean look at my collection (link below for anyone who wants to have a look. Haven't posted a link before, so I guess it's about time), I have a tiny collection of systems (guess around 40), I just wish I didn't have to sell so many games in the past. Especially my 300 (almost all boxed) carts VCS collection. No, I don't get much enjoyment out of my Jaguar, most of the games IMO suck. I just got the console because I am an Atari fanboy. http://videogamecollectors.com/gallery/album1-for-Tom * Uh better not, most of gods followers are certified pedophiles Edited July 23, 2006 by thomasholzer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rik #54 Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) Where's the "Who started the dumbest poll this week?" section? Come on,respect other peoples opinions AND POSTS,no-one should be scolded for posting something just because it sounds stupid! Edited July 23, 2006 by Rik Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #55 Posted July 23, 2006 Glad I won this argument LOL, okay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #56 Posted July 23, 2006 Don't make yourself an enemy of forums, you will only regret it. Umm.... unless by forum, you mean you yourself, -newbie-, it would seem that I am in no danger of making an enemy of the forum. (psst: look at poll results) Had to submit your ramblings here, http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=73115, maybe you'll be famous after this. Yeah I read that. So, when you fail to win an arguement on one thread, you jump ship to another one and without any sort of reference or way for viewers to find the discussion in question to verify your claim you basically just come on and said "I guess I showed that guy" hoping that since they can't find it without digging, they'll just assume you're right. Cheap, shallow, immature...and dirty pool BTW. But fear not. For since I'm such a nice guy, I have corrected this little oversight of yours. http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...id=1106454& See, a little calm goes a long way Well, I could say the Pot calling the Kettle black thing again, but based on your response to it last time you were either A) not astute enough to catch that I was calling you a hypocrite, or B) not mature enough to not turn it into a joke that actually discredits you more than it does me. So I'll just skip cleverly worded retorts this time and just cut right to the prime beef of it....saying that makes you a hypocrite. I mean look at my collection (link below for anyone who wants to have a look. Haven't posted a link before, so I guess it's about time), I have a tiny collection of systems (guess around 40), I just wish I didn't have to sell so many games in the past. Especially my 300 (almost all boxed) carts VCS collection. No, I don't get much enjoyment out of my Jaguar, most of the games IMO suck. I just got the console because I am an Atari fanboy. http://videogamecollectors.com/gallery/album1-for-Tom Impressive collection. I mean that sinerely. But, the fact that you have a massive hardware/software collection doesn't add any strength to your arguement. And it's placement in this argument indicates that you felt you were in need of backup. "Oh crap, I'm losing here...I know! I will show him that my game collection is bigger and then victory will be mine!" Well, it's not the size that matters, as they say. I've got 27 systems not counting my mac and PC computers and about 800 games spread between them. Who cares?! What does that have to do with the Jaguar vs. N64? Do we both have a Jaguar? Do we both have an N64? (do you?) Beyond that, it doesn't matter. The fact that you brought that up proves you're floundering. But I am sorry to hear you had to sell off some. That always sucks. And is that "Atari Fanboy"ism preventing you from being objective about the hardware differences? I think so. And yes, the N64 is based on 80's technology SGI...not only does that fact further my arguement and weaken yours, but consider this: SGI was extremely powerful, and it wasn't until the PS2/GC/XB generation that we had home systems that could play in the same field as 80's SGI. What that means is that it took til early D2K for console gaming to best what Hollywood could do back in the 80's....that means anything before D2K was inferior to 80's SGI. That means Atari Jaguar was inferior to 80's SGI...that means that N64's basis on 80's SGI helped it, not harmed it in it's battle against the Jaguar. So thank you for strengthening my arguement...and at your expense too....how generous. * Uh better not, most of gods followers are certified pedophiles Nice. When you're losing a video game debate, what do you do? Attack your opponent's God (or religion). "Oh crap! What do I do now? Oh yeah.... Your God sucks!....that'll show him." Well.............Thom, you've shown a lot of who you are and what kind of person you are. Thank you for these valueable insights. And I mean that sincerely too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #57 Posted July 23, 2006 You know what? I'm done. You've already succeeded in dragging me lower than I ever wanted to go. And I don't see how this conversation will be able to continue without the both of us stooping lower than we already have... I don't care what you do. You can stoop as low as you want, but I have a quality of character to maintain, and if I keep this up, I wont be able to. If you want to resume normal thread conversation, then I'm game. I'm above shutting you out completely, but I'm also above keeping this up with you. If you're gonna keep this going then you will get nothing but radio silence from me henceforth. And I don't care if you walk away from this thinking you're the winner...whatever it takes to make up for your shortage in the shorts is fine by me. The record will speak for itself. I'm not conceding defeat, but a 50yr old Dad who knows he's right in an arguement against his 12yr old son is mature enough to know that he's not gonna get through to the dolt and so he backs off... he knows he won, but he's never gonna convince his son of that, so the conversation closes and even though the son walks away bragging how he bested his dad, his dad knows the score and shares a small smile with any other adults in sight of the altercation, because they know the score too...... If that's what happens here, I can live with that..I can go to sleep tonight. But I'm done. We'll be doing a disservice to all other viewers and participants of this thread by carrying on like this. We'll defeat the originator's purpose (which I suspect ZylonBane wont mind) and could end up getting the thread locked. So if you want to start over fresh then I'm cool with that, otherwise, I'm gonna be that 50yr old dad that walks away with that little smirk on his face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thomasholzer #58 Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) OK PEACE please, and I am sorry. (You just made me realise something) Edited July 23, 2006 by thomasholzer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #59 Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) Truce. I see you adopted a new signature. I wonder where you got that. p.s. sincere congrats on attaining star raider status (and 2nd atari controller) I did a little woohoo when it happened to me. BTW, your join date was my younger brother's 25th birthday. He'll be so proud. Edited July 23, 2006 by Mr_8bit_16bit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shannon #60 Posted July 23, 2006 (edited) Where's the "Who started the dumbest poll this week?" section? Where's the "Who's the most useless poster thread?". Oh yeah that's right it would be pointless because you would be the only name on the list. Moving along I voted for atari on the 8-bit... My first I didn't really think about the 2600, or even combining the 2600/5200/Lynx? As an all in one combo. But even if there was no 5200/Atari 8-bit I'd still vote for the 2600 just cause I like the games alot more. Maybe as my overall NES experience increases I'll change my mind. Believe me, I like the NES, but for some reason I always keep going back to the 2600/5200 games. SNES/Genesis ... My personal preference leans towards the SNES. N64 - vs Jaguar ? - Sorry guys... I can think of 10-20 titles on the N64 that the Jaguar could not compare too. The Jag has a handful of good titles but it just aint up to it. No I do not get sick from looking at an N64 game, but I did get height dizzyness while playing a couple levels in Mario 64 (yeah I know that sounds strange). Edited July 23, 2006 by Shannon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #61 Posted July 23, 2006 I had considered taking the concept of this thread and elaborating on it in a thread of my own, but as it turns out, polls only allow a max of four questions, so it may take a couple separate threads to do what I need to do, but I think I'm gonna do it. Be looking for a couple threads called "TOTAL WAR" here in the next couple days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atarifever #62 Posted July 23, 2006 I couldn't vote because the poll wouldn't let me leave blank spaces. Thus, I can't vote for a tie in 8-bit between Atari and Sega, and can't vote for nothing in the 64 bit one (I just got my Jag and am loving it, and I've really had limited experience with the N64 outside Mario Party and wrestling games, so my vote there'd be on very limited experience). I would have voted for Genesis in 16-bit because I don't much like RPGs (well, I do like Beyond Oasis), slowdown, shoulder buttons, and I sold all my classic systems back in the day to buy my SNES and eventually hated it for that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #63 Posted July 23, 2006 sounds like when I sold off a bunch of really great stuff to get a Sega CD. That was dumb of me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagChris #64 Posted July 24, 2006 (edited) Heck, Jaguar even loses in the 2D realm. Trevor McFur might be noteworthy, but apart from that, most of the Jaguar's 2D stuff doesn't look all that much better than a SNES. I doubt very much that the Jaguar would ever have been able to do some of the 2D games that graced the N64. I'll name just two: Yoshi's Story and Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub Zero. Well, I dunno about that. It wouldn't be able to compete with the N64 in 3D, but in 2D it should be CAPABLE of putting both the N64 and the PS1 over it's knee and spankin' 'em. Edited July 24, 2006 by JagChris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thomasholzer #65 Posted July 24, 2006 (edited) Actually, 8/16 is correct in this point. Missing out the 32 bit consoles (CD32, 3DO, PSX, Saturn) is a great crime. And at least you got more choice when compared to two average 64 bit consoles. Also, calling them crap is nothing short of ignorance, Saturn has become a great collectors console with many original Japanese titles. Of course, you'd know the outcome, the worlds best selling console, PlayStation, would win. Maybe a bit jealousy involved here? Edited July 24, 2006 by thomasholzer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_8bit_16bit #66 Posted July 24, 2006 Heck, Jaguar even loses in the 2D realm. Trevor McFur might be noteworthy, but apart from that, most of the Jaguar's 2D stuff doesn't look all that much better than a SNES. I doubt very much that the Jaguar would ever have been able to do some of the 2D games that graced the N64. I'll name just two: Yoshi's Story and Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub Zero. Well, I dunno about that. It wouldn't be able to compete with the N64 in 3D, but in 2D it should be CAPABLE of putting both the N64 and the PS1 over it's knee and spankin' 'em. With all due resepect: How do you figure?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super_dos_man #67 Posted July 29, 2006 I see that most of you are pissed about me not putting the 32-bit consoles. I'll make a better thread next time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnbren05 #68 Posted August 1, 2006 I couldn't really vote for the best 64 bit console as of now. I have an N64 with a 45 game collection and have enjoyed it for year. I recently got my Jaguar and only have 2 games. After I obtain more titles for the Jag I'll be sure to comeback and let you guys know what I think. As of now though the N64 does seem to have the advantage with an extensive library. - Stay classy guys Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Video #69 Posted August 3, 2006 Don't feel bad about it dude, People here are just pickey I picked 64 cause it definately kicks the Jags ass in most cases, don't know about 2D though, cause I've simply never played any 2D games on the 64. But Jaguar's version of Doom is better than the 64/s:p Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites