pitfallaimee Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Granted, I don't play too many newer games, least of all newer RPGs (although I do like them). But, a few months back, I borrowed this game from a friend, and started playing it, only to stop before I ever really did anything, because the Diz-nee overtones were too much for me. The nail in the coffin was the "Gummi ship." I understand that a lot of people clearly LOVE this game, everyone I've talked to seems to love it, and the sequel, and the gameboy games, etc... Like maybe this is "teh best game EVAR!!!!!1" Am I missing something? Do you really have to love Disney and Square to get this? Technically, I also found the introduction level tedious, and the battle system was difficult to get used to. I also really, really, REALLY hated that Gummi Ship, mostly because it was called the "Gummi Ship" but also because there was some kind of horrible manditory arcade-ish sequence in order to travel in something called a "Gummi Ship". Now, if there really is something GREAT AND REDEEMING in this game that I missed, I'd probably give it another try...but I just don't see what the fuss was all about. This is why I stick to puzzle games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesusc Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega saturn x Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Not by a mile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 They could have done away with the "Gummi Ship". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Am I the only one who couldn't stomach Kingdom Hearts? No, I find it vile. But then again, I really can't stand most JRPG little kid / big head / bishonen adventures. And the Disney 'contribution' ? Yuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega saturn x Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Am I the only one who couldn't stomach Kingdom Hearts? No, I find it vile. But then again, I really can't stand most JRPG little kid / big head / bishonen adventures. And the Disney 'contribution' ? Yuck At times it feels like MOST japanese games use that god awful style. Obviously their are many that don't but lets work on getting that even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjarabbit Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I didn't like KH either. I didn't like the battle system, the camera sucked, the Gummi Ship sucked (and lacked the characters from the awesome Gummi Bears cartoon from the late 80's by Disney) and I don't care what anyone else says the FF/Disney is just weird and on the verge of stupid. I also have the feeling that Disney is handcuffing what Square can do with the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I\'ve heard the game takes on a more serious tone as it gets further along. Other than that though I\'ve never played it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I wish they would combine a Final Fantasy like RPG with the HannaBarbara cartoons. I'll bet Smoo would KICK ASS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic George 2K3 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I'm not saying that I hate Kingdom Hearts, for what little I played of the game, though it could have used some improvement in the real-time combat system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Master Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Combine Final Fantasy characters with Nintendo characters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHufnagel Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Combine Final Fantasy characters with Nintendo characters! Mario basketball for the DS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keilbaca Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 You're not the only one. Hell, I don't like FF VII and people swear on it as being the best RPG ever. Sorry, nothing can take over in my mind than what Lunar SSSC and Chrono Trigger has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscott27 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 They did it all for the nookie You see girls like that Disney stuff, especially the band-geek low self esteem having type. You get em sucked into the Kingdom Hearts like its Days of Our Lives and next thing you know they're on the road to cosplay. Yep they're sewing some gaudy frock and saving up their Subway paychecks to go make the scene at the next Cosplay con. You know where that leads, adjoining rooms at the Days Inn outside of Toronto just down the road from the convention center...next thing you know Riku is getting to 3rd base with Kairi in the after-show cuddle puddle, see how that works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Why does that dude have toilet paper on his sword!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Why does that dude have toilet paper on his sword!!? LOL, okay this picture may just replace Lord Nintendo as my recent favorite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega saturn x Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Combine Final Fantasy characters with Nintendo characters! No, Capcom with nintendo THAT I would like to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklord1977 Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 i think the kindom hearts games are lame. and are a total waste ..its just disneys way of cashing in on something.. since their films suck..they have to go to gaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narutofan Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 (edited) They did it all for the nookie You see girls like that Disney stuff, especially the band-geek low self esteem having type. You get em sucked into the Kingdom Hearts like its Days of Our Lives and next thing you know they're on the road to cosplay. Yep they're sewing some gaudy frock and saving up their Subway paychecks to go make the scene at the next Cosplay con. You know where that leads, adjoining rooms at the Days Inn outside of Toronto just down the road from the convention center...next thing you know Riku is getting to 3rd base with Kairi in the after-show cuddle puddle, see how that works? Okay, if I see one more person wrap Cloud's sword with toilet paper I am going to stab them in the fucking face. The reason it's on there is because the retard-asses at disney thought it would be funny for the little ones if they wrapped a roll of toilet paper around cloud's fucking sword Anyway, I thought the disney thing was very unbearable, but since I LOVE the gameplay I just tried to ignore all the disney shit. Edited August 22, 2006 by narutofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Square and Disney... two mediocre tastes that taste bad together. Make mine Marvel vs. Capcom instead. JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitfallaimee Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 Anyway, I thought the disney thing was very unbearable, but since I LOVE the gameplay I just tried to ignore all the disney shit. See, it was more the gameplay that turned me off. I flat out did not like having to juggle menus at the SAME TIME as actively fighting. I also hated the lock-on because it wasn't a promise that the camera would follow (as in Zelda-ish games) I thought the Gummi ship as a means of navigating the "world map" was a complete and utter misery. Pointless and mandatory arcade sequences where you fight gelatin and legos is not my ideal way to spend five, ten or fifteen minutes. I understand that later in the game you get the ability to warp, but, frankly, this ability should have been offered immediately if they wanted to keep me in the game. Also, in an otherwise slick and beautiful game (graphically), the Gummi sequence looked like StarFox. I could have dealt with the rest of the disney cowplop if we didn't have to revolve the whole thing around Mickey, Donald, and Goofy. These have to be my least favorite characters in the history of everything, and historically, mixing classic-style cartoons with 'real' people (if you consider the FF-style folks to be the element of reality here) has been pretty risky. It can work out ok (Who Framed Roger Rabbit?) or it can go horribly, horribly wrong (SpaceJam!?) Here I just don't think it works, and, I would have preferred a Disney RPG to be made using ONLY the Disney elements, similar to the way Mario RPG was handled on the SNES. And this is all assuming I felt the basic game was playable, which it wasn't, at least for me. After I went "Oh, look, it's Cid" and "Wow, this game looks nice" I was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narutofan Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Yeah, I went out and bought the second too. They handled the graphices with the whole style of animation pretty well, but there was way too much disney. The previews made it look like there would be less, but, unfortunately NO. Gummi ship is also better in the second. I saw the preview for the third, and supposedly, there's gonna be a 'war of the keyblades'. FINALLY!! I'm sick of fighting these stupid little freaks that jump on me and wave their arms around. I loved fighting real people in the game. I think another thing they need to do in the third one is fix the reaction commands (for those of you who don't know what that is; it's this thing where you go into a special sequence such as dodging between falling boulders, then pulling off a combo and smacking the guy really hard, and how it works is you just press triangle whenenver it pops up, but, you could just mash triangle, since it only had that button) to something were you have to use all four buttons instead of just masshing on one. If they can make the third, just kick disney the hell out of it, slap a T or M rating on it, fix the reation command, and make more people fights, it would probably be my favorite game ever. Unfortunatley, I don't see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sega saturn x Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Make mine SNK vs. Capcom instead. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 What\'\'s with the big sword anyways? Is he compensating for something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 What\'\'s with the big sword anyways? Is he compensating for something? I'm betting that one of the other three dudes in that picture could tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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