Compact Flash Cartridge

[swapd0]

Hi the other day I saw a compact flash cartridge for the ZX Spectrum

 

I think that is a better option than the jaguar compact flash cartridge project (the one with ethernet), because you can use flash memory up to 1Gb, and they are handled like FAT disks. It will need a small eeprom to have a small OS for loading games, just a file selector.

 

Pro

-Cheaper?

-Games can save data on flash memory

 

Cons

- Can't load normal cartridge images

[Starcat]

Hi!

 

You are not the first who had that idea Actually a Jaguar compact flash cartridge is in developments for some months already and supposed to be released by the end of this year or so.

 

Regards, Lars.

[+doctorclu]

Hi!

 

You are not the first who had that idea Actually a Jaguar compact flash cartridge is in developments for some months already and supposed to be released by the end of this year or so.

 

Regards, Lars.

 

Another compact flash suggestion carefully submitted to the circular file.

[swapd0]

You are not the first who had that idea Actually a Jaguar compact flash cartridge is in developments for some months already and supposed to be released by the end of this year or so.

 

Cool!, I'm a bit lost in hardware developments, for the sake of homebrew development it should be cheap

[JagChris]

You are not the first who had that idea Actually a Jaguar compact flash cartridge is in developments for some months already and supposed to be released by the end of this year or so.

 

Cool!, I'm a bit lost in hardware developments, for the sake of homebrew development it should be cheap

 

It won't be cheap. And why would we need CF? We haven't been able to use the potential that's there in the Jaguar.

[GT Turbo]

Hi Swapd0,

 

If you want some infos about it :

 

http://www.jagware.org/index.php?showtopic=41

 

and a little photo :

 

http://scpcd.free.fr/

 

Regards,

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

Edited September 8, 2006 by GT Turbo

[+doctorclu]

Hi Swapd0,

 

If you want some infos about it :

 

http://www.jagware.org/index.php?showtopic=41

 

and a little photo :

 

http://scpcd.free.fr/

 

Regards,

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

 

Cool. Should be helpful in developing future stuff, which I definately need THAT solution.

[GT Turbo]

It won't be cheap.

 

Cheaper than a JagCD who can got some motors problems

 

And why would we need CF?

 

CF will give cheaper games than cart one, with JagCF we can deal demogames on internet, you can play at them without using any mods of your Jag. JagCF is faster than JagCD.

 

Why old machines can got a CF adaptater and not the Jaguar ? That's the real question !!

 

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

[Pocket]

And we'll have one, can't wait !

[JagChris]

It won't be cheap.

 

Cheaper than a JagCD who can got some motors problems

 

And why would we need CF?

 

CF will give cheaper games than cart one, with JagCF we can deal demogames on internet, you can play at them without using any mods of your Jag. JagCF is faster than JagCD.

 

Why old machines can got a CF adaptater and not the Jaguar ? That's the real question !!

 

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

 

 

We can aleady use demogames on the internet using the BJL program inside the Protector cartridge and a relatively inexpensive BJl adapter($12 at A8maestro)without having to mod our Jags or buy two expensive proprietary hardware items.

 

As for if the CF games or the CF itself will be cheaper remains to be seen.

 

Why old machines can get a CF adapter and not the Jaguar? Well its not that the Jag can't get a CF adapter. The old systems probably have one because their dev communities have proven they have pushed the hardwares memory limitations etc as far as they can and it's an appropriate time to look into such a hardware upgrade.

 

I don't believe it's the appropriate time in this community for such a thing since it (the community) has not proven it can even get near using the Jags current potential as it is.

Edited September 11, 2006 by JagChris

[GT Turbo]

We can aleady use demogames on the internet using the BJL program inside the Protector cartridge and a relatively inexpensive BJl adapter($12 at A8maestro)without having to mod our Jags or buy two expensive proprietary hardware items.

 

I don't want to buy a game only for testing demogames, i'm not a gamer, the only game in my Jag is cybermorph.

 

I don't believe it's the appropriate time in this community for such a thing since it (the community) has not proven it can even get near using the Jags current potential as it is.

 

Nobody can say that all the potential have been used on a machine, even now (21 years after the ST was born) some people found new technics on it (Mr.Ni! of the TOS-Crew, 7 june 2006, who has found how to do a 4 pixels plasma)

 

That means, we have to wait more than 21 years for doing new things on Jaguar, i hope you're joking...

 

And the last thing, if we want to do a JagCF, we have the right to do it it's all. If i want to code a game on Jaguar for the JagCF, i got the right, it's all too.

 

If you don't want or like the JagCf, you've got the right too, but please let people who want to do something on Jag to do what they want to do. Thanks

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

[+doctorclu]

 

If you don't want or like the JagCf, you've got the right too, but please let people who want to do something on Jag to do what they want to do. Thanks

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

 

It will be an interesting doo-dad. Will probably pick one up.

 

I tell you though, being able to load carts and CD's from one source would have been nice at the show this weekend instead of laying out a bunch of carts and hoping no one snagged a souvenir. That is my only thing about all this.

 

But this will be nice to load I guess Diam Jag, Atomic, Tetris, and the other development games... at least that's something.

[GT Turbo]

But this will be nice to load I guess Diam Jag, Atomic, Tetris, and the other development games... at least that's something.

 

Yes, and a lot of others games, DiamJag and Atomic were only 'code try' for two coders, who has written it for seeing how to code on Jag. Project Apocalypse is one of the first JagCF games, and i know at least 6 games minimun are in progress for the JagCF, with a high level coding and graphics

 

Wait and enjoy

 

 

GT Turbo

[JagChris]

We can aleady use demogames on the internet using the BJL program inside the Protector cartridge and a relatively inexpensive BJl adapter($12 at A8maestro)without having to mod our Jags or buy two expensive proprietary hardware items.

 

I don't want to buy a game only for testing demogames, i'm not a gamer, the only game in my Jag is cybermorph.

 

I don't believe it's the appropriate time in this community for such a thing since it (the community) has not proven it can even get near using the Jags current potential as it is.

 

Nobody can say that all the potential have been used on a machine, even now (21 years after the ST was born) some people found new technics on it (Mr.Ni! of the TOS-Crew, 7 june 2006, who has found how to do a 4 pixels plasma)

 

That means, we have to wait more than 21 years for doing new things on Jaguar, i hope you're joking...

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

 

There will always be more tricks to squeeze out of systems. Even though they are STILL getting more out of stock ST's and Spectrums or whatever, the full potential has been exploited by the community to a REASONABLE degree to look into going forward with additional hardware add-ons. I do not think this has happened yet for the Jaguar.

 

But you are right. You are free to work on and put out whatever you folks want and I wish you the best of luck with it.

 

I'm just putting out food for thought.

[EmOneGarand]

I honestly can't wait for this peripheral, but am hoping that when it's released I don't get left in the dust from all the other die hard fans buying up all the supplies *cough*Battlesphereandscatbox*cough*. Any idea of how many of these will be produced?

[GT Turbo]

I honestly can't wait for this peripheral, but am hoping that when it's released I don't get left in the dust from all the other die hard fans buying up all the supplies *cough*Battlesphereandscatbox*cough*. Any idea of how many of these will be produced?

 

The JagCF will not be number limited, we think everybody who want one, can get one, we don't want some people sell at an extra price JagCF because there will be only a small quantity. We don't want that, we do that only for pleasure Just for fun !!

 

December, JagCF will be available, the developpers version will be available before, with that when the JagCF will be available for everybody, some games will be finished. Games like Project Apocalypse ( http://www.jagware.org/index.php?showtopic=306 )

 

and some others games better than Project Apocalypse

 

and never forget one thing, there is an special option nobody know inside the JagCF

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

[backinjag]

I'm a stranger to the homebrew market (I don't have a Jag CD), so forgive the ignorance of my questions.

 

1) Is the JagCF something that the people at Scatalogic can make use of to distribute Battlesphere (assuming that they still exist and that they are genuinely interested in distributing BS to all Jag owners, not just ones with $400-500 to shell out on eBay).

 

2) I'm a Mac user; will this pose difficulties for me downloading a game and putting it on the JagCF?

 

As a non-Jag CD owner, I'm a prime candidate to buy this. I'd love to participate in the homebrew scene, I just don't want to buy the CD unit, as it's expensive and only has two excellent, commercial games (Battlemorph and IS2).

[EmOneGarand]

I honestly can't wait for this peripheral, but am hoping that when it's released I don't get left in the dust from all the other die hard fans buying up all the supplies *cough*Battlesphereandscatbox*cough*. Any idea of how many of these will be produced?

 

The JagCF will not be number limited, we think everybody who want one, can get one, we don't want some people sell at an extra price JagCF because there will be only a small quantity. We don't want that, we do that only for pleasure Just for fun !!

 

December, JagCF will be available, the developpers version will be available before, with that when the JagCF will be available for everybody, some games will be finished. Games like Project Apocalypse ( http://www.jagware.org/index.php?showtopic=306 )

 

and some others games better than Project Apocalypse

 

and never forget one thing, there is an special option nobody know inside the JagCF

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

Well then, thats great news. But a few questions about the use of this device for the release of new games. Would this mean all new commercially released Jag games would come on CF cards? or is the point of the device so that any game can be loaded onto a standard CF and played through the CF Cart? It'd be interesting to see how the cart labels would be reformatted to fit on CF Cards.

Edited September 14, 2006 by EmOneGarand

[EmOneGarand]

I'm a stranger to the homebrew market (I don't have a Jag CD), so forgive the ignorance of my questions.

 

1) Is the JagCF something that the people at Scatalogic can make use of to distribute Battlesphere (assuming that they still exist and that they are genuinely interested in distributing BS to all Jag owners, not just ones with $400-500 to shell out on eBay).

 

2) I'm a Mac user; will this pose difficulties for me downloading a game and putting it on the JagCF?

 

As a non-Jag CD owner, I'm a prime candidate to buy this. I'd love to participate in the homebrew scene, I just don't want to buy the CD unit, as it's expensive and only has two excellent, commercial games (Battlemorph and IS2).

In my opinion I think Scatalogic and 4Play released Battlesphere just to say "There.. we finished the game like we promised" and that they did a few runs and wern't gonna release anymore. Now I hope they do take advantage of the JAGCF technology because I really wanna play that game without dishing out outrageous amounts of cash for one game.

[Starcat]

I honestly can't wait for this peripheral, but am hoping that when it's released I don't get left in the dust from all the other die hard fans buying up all the supplies *cough*Battlesphereandscatbox*cough*. Any idea of how many of these will be produced?

 

The JagCF will not be number limited, we think everybody who want one, can get one, we don't want some people sell at an extra price JagCF because there will be only a small quantity. We don't want that, we do that only for pleasure Just for fun !!

 

December, JagCF will be available, the developpers version will be available before, with that when the JagCF will be available for everybody, some games will be finished. Games like Project Apocalypse ( http://www.jagware.org/index.php?showtopic=306 )

 

and some others games better than Project Apocalypse

 

and never forget one thing, there is an special option nobody know inside the JagCF

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

 

Hi GT Turbo!

 

That's great news! I can't wait to get my hands on the JagCF carts and work with it. If the dev version is available soon enough I might have something finished for the full launch as well :-) So be sure to announce the dev release soon enough. More games mean, a lot more people will want to get a JagCF as soon as possible And more JagCFs in the community mean more developers will want to work with it. So it would be good for both sides, fans and developers, to have some games at the launch.

 

Regards, Lars.

[GT Turbo]

Hi GT Turbo!

 

That's great news! I can't wait to get my hands on the JagCF carts and work with it. If the dev version is available soon enough I might have something finished for the full launch as well :-) So be sure to announce the dev release soon enough. More games mean, a lot more people will want to get a JagCF as soon as possible And more JagCFs in the community mean more developers will want to work with it. So it would be good for both sides, fans and developers, to have some games at the launch.

 

Regards, Lars.

 

Hi Lars,

 

I will send a mail to all developers who are waiting for a JagCF when the dev version will be available.

 

 

 

Regards,

GT

[jaguar_fan]

 

The JagCF will not be number limited, we think everybody who want one, can get one, we don't want some people sell at an extra price JagCF because there will be only a small quantity. We don't want that, we do that only for pleasure Just for fun !!

 

December, JagCF will be available, the developpers version will be available before, with that when the JagCF will be available for everybody, some games will be finished. Games like Project Apocalypse ( http://www.jagware.org/index.php?showtopic=306 )

 

and some others games better than Project Apocalypse

 

and never forget one thing, there is an special option nobody know inside the JagCF

 

 

GT Turbo (Jagware)

 

Hey, GT Turbo, I really like your approach, this is great news

 

I really hate all these "limited edition" approaches like hell. Limited numbers will only lead to incredibly high prices at ebay locking out most of the Jaguar users. I am glad that you don´t want some people sell at an extra price JagCF because there will be only a small quantity.

 

Great. Thank you!!

 

Can´t wait to buy JagCF

[Zerosquare]

Hi backinjag. I'm a secondary developer on the JagCF project, and the main one for the Catnip Cable project.

 

1) Is the JagCF something that the people at Scatalogic can make use of to distribute Battlesphere (assuming that they still exist and that they are genuinely interested in distributing BS to all Jag owners, not just ones with $400-500 to shell out on eBay).

In theory, yes. But I can think of several reasons that make this possibility very unlikely.

 

2) I'm a Mac user; will this pose difficulties for me downloading a game and putting it on the JagCF?

The JagCF's Compact Flash cartridges will use a FAT16 filesystem (native format for MS-DOS and Windows) which is supported on MacOS X (AFAIK), so if you can connect a CF reader/writer to your Mac, there shouldn't be any problem.

However, you also need the Catnip Cable to keep the JagCF up-to-date. I'm currently working on making the software Mac-compatible (which is not easy since I don't own any Mac hardware). Although it seems promising, I can't guarantee anything yet.

[GT Turbo]

Hey, GT Turbo, I really like your approach, this is great news

 

I really hate all these "limited edition" approaches like hell. Limited numbers will only lead to incredibly high prices at ebay locking out most of the Jaguar users. I am glad that you don´t want some people sell at an extra price JagCF because there will be only a small quantity.

 

Great. Thank you!!

 

Can´t wait to buy JagCF

 

This is not only my state of mind but the whole Jagware state of mind, we don't do that for money, just for fun, else better doing thing on new machines

 

'Just for fun' Atari rules from a lot of years and hope for some others years.

 

GT Turbo

[JagChris]

Does M$ charge for using their file format?