Sony esplains overheating problems that happened at tgs

[8th lutz]

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=c...30&Itemid=2

 

Sony Said "the 200 PS3s at TGS were grouped closely together in poorly ventilated in kiosks causing overheating issues and subsequent failures" according to the article. Sony also said it could be high temperatures at the TGS venue according to the article also.

 

I decided to post this due to the fact I linked the overheating problems that happened at the tgs a couple weeks ago.

Edited October 3, 2006 by 8th lutz

[bones]

My favorite line from the article, per Sony... "If indeed, there was the occasional unit that needed rebooting, it was due solely to the adverse environmental conditions within the Hall and not to any more general problem with PS3."

 

I'd like to see them prove that...there's just too many factors involved to put out such a definitive statement. Man I hate PR bull$hit.

 

For their sake hopefully it isn't an issue, tho wouldn't be surprise if this ends up being a real concern. What, new $600 consoles that overheat easily? Say it ain't so!

[darklord1977]

My favorite line from the article, per Sony... "If indeed, there was the occasional unit that needed rebooting, it was due solely to the adverse environmental conditions within the Hall and not to any more general problem with PS3."

 

I'd like to see them prove that...there's just too many factors involved to put out such a definitive statement. Man I hate PR bull$hit.

 

For their sake hopefully it isn't an issue, tho wouldn't be surprise if this ends up being a real concern. What, new $600 consoles that overheat easily? Say it ain't so!

im still laughing...sony is really screwing themselves

[EricDeLee]

Got a question for you... how is Sony 'really screwing themselves'?

 

I'm not exactly sure how the set-up at the TGS venue was... but isn't it somewhat safe to trust in the fact that Sony could be right on this???? Place any system in a display case... in a confined area with little to know airflow. Turn that sucker on and let it start running. Over time... the fan would just be pulling in hot air to replace the hot air that it just pushed out.

 

 

That sounds very reasonable to me when it comes to a reason why the systems would overheat. It kills me that there are so many bashers out there who can't see obvious common sense explanations for what they really are: obvious common sense explanations.

 

Why do they automatically have to be PR crap???? Why is it Sony is 'screwing themselves'?????? Especially after making a common sense statement like they made.

[EricDeLee]

Lets add a little bit more detail for the bashers to read and then retract their statements:

 

A report from Macquarie Securities analyst David Gibson helped spur investor concern over Sony’s next generation machine

 

now... after the reports that David Gibson made:

 

 

[uPDATE] David Karraker, senior director of corporate communications with SCEA, responded to Next-Gen's inquiry regarding the TGS overheating accusations in Gibson's aforementioned report.

 

He called Gibson's comments "unsubstantiated" and that "comments related to the alleged failure of PS3 units at TGS are also not attributed to a source."

 

Karraker offered up SCEA's official defense of the PS3's TGS performance to Next-Gen:

 

Despite the report from Macquarie Securities implying that they had heard of reports of PS3's needing to be rebooted at TGS, SCEI are not aware of any instances of this occurring at TGS, nor have we received any reports from third parties to such effect.

On the Press Day on Friday, and throughout the weekend the PlayStation stand was inundated by specialist gaming media, the majority of whom would have noticed if there had been a general problem with console overheating.

The environmental conditions at TGS conspire to test any electrical item. In the case of PS3, the combination of pre-production software, running on pre-production debug units, enclosed in demonstration units without ventilation, and surrounded by so many eager fans that on Saturday and Sunday it was almost impossible to move, are bound to prove a challenge.

 

If indeed, there was the occasional unit that needed rebooting, it was due solely to the adverse environmental conditions within the Hall and not to any more general problem with PS3.

PS3 does not suffer from an overheating problem.

 

I think the PS3 is going to be just fine. People moaned and yelled about the XBOX 360 when it came out due to the price. Whatever. Then people yelled and moaned about the price of the PS3 when it was announced. If you don't like the price... don't buy it. It is that simple. I don't agree with the price... but understand it. I will be waiting for a system when it takes a price drop. Will it happen soon? I don't know. Best Buy is selling the new Blue Ray Disk a ma bob players at $999. I saw an internal Blue Ray Disk drive for a computer at the same store: $799

 

$600 isn't that bad of a price... if you really think about it. Think of it this way: You get a discount on the Next Generation DVD thingy.... and everything else is thrown in for free. In that way of thinking... it is a steal!!!!! Plus... I can use my PSP with it! Kick ass!!!!

 

End rant.... lol

[bones]

Why do they automatically have to be PR crap????

Nothing automatic about it. I'm not a big fan of PR "spin" by any company. Here is that one sentence from Sony PR, and some commentary on that...

 

"If indeed, there was the occasional unit that needed rebooting..." Come on Sony, was there an issue or not? I can neither confirm nor deny...

 

"...it was due solely to the adverse environmental conditions within the Hall" Is there any way to prove this? It would have been smarter to say "likely due to" instead.

 

"...and not to any more general problem with PS3" As a gamer, hopefully this is the case. As a realist, it is entirely possible there is an issue with the console overheating. Just look at all of the hardware issues for previous console launches, serious flaws do make their way to store shelves. There have been 6-7 million Sony laptop batteries recalled in the past few months, so the company is not immune to product flaws.

[bones]

I will be waiting for a system when it takes a price drop. Will it happen soon? I don't know. Best Buy is selling the new Blue Ray Disk a ma bob players at $999. I saw an internal Blue Ray Disk drive for a computer at the same store: $799

 

$600 isn't that bad of a price... if you really think about it. Think of it this way: You get a discount on the Next Generation DVD thingy.... and everything else is thrown in for free. In that way of thinking... it is a steal!!!!! Plus... I can use my PSP with it! Kick ass!!!!

 

End rant.... lol

As a Blue Ray player $600 is a good price. As a game console, which is what I'm looking for, that's too much. It is Next Gen for sure, tho what if it ends up becoming the next Beta? I'll wait the whole Next Gen DVD thing out until the dust settles a bit on the format wars

[Atari Master]

A blu-ray player right now is enough to make the PS3 look good... But then you can get a HD-DVD player for your already bought 360. That kind of throws that out of the window.

 

Anyway, I have a variety of systems and whatnot put close together, they've never overheated. My room can get hot, my computer = never overheats.

 

My advice, if you buy one, don't leave it on if the air conditioner is off.

[Scumdogg]

Personally, i'm way too concerned about the lack of non-PSP support for UMDs, and the high possibility of Blu-Ray becoming the next Betamax, to shell out $600 for a console because it's a cheap "next gen" movie player. Sony has done nothing that i can recall to make me confident than anyone will be buying Blu-Ray discs in a year's time.

 

Besides, everyone i have ever known that's used a console for a movie device has just had it burn out twice as fast. Sure, it might be good long-term for one or the other, but any console pulling heavy double-duty is just going to die too quickly to be worth the $600.

 

I'm not complaining or bashing here, i'm really rather content to wait for a huge price drop, or just wait and pick up the much-cheaper PS4. I'm just a big fan of Nintendo's move...pull out the DVD support and just release an affordable box that plays games. I miss when consoles just had to worry about playing the games.

Edited October 5, 2006 by Scumdogg

[Video]

That's a load. The reason for the Overheating prob is that the PS3 is a shoddy cheaply built piece of schit, like their other consoles.

 

Of course, even the best in electronics will overheat when abused....locked in small spaces.....low airflow....left on for days at a time....etc....

[Mendon]

Not being sarcastic or funny in any way, but I find it sort of interesting that, according to the story, if a PS3 overheats it needs only a reboot to fix it. If a 360 overheats, you get 3 red rings and a coffin from MS to ship it back in. Interesting....

 

Mendon

[EricDeLee]

Besides, everyone i have ever known that's used a console for a movie device has just had it burn out twice as fast. Sure, it might be good long-term for one or the other, but any console pulling heavy double-duty is just going to die too quickly to be worth the $600.

 

 

I think that is hogwash.

 

My PS2 I bought at launch WAS my DVD player. I still do not own a DVD player aside from the one on my computer. My PS2 takes care of that for me. That PS2 is in the closet now... because I upgraded to the slim version. I still use it as my DVD player. I never understood these arguements.....

 

Same as... if you roll up the controller... it will make the wires frail. Otay.... sure....

[EricDeLee]

That's a load. The reason for the Overheating prob is that the PS3 is a shoddy cheaply built piece of schit, like their other consoles.

 

Of course, even the best in electronics will overheat when abused....locked in small spaces.....low airflow....left on for days at a time....etc....

 

 

Bingo on the last part. Bullschit on the first. Are you a Nintendo or Xbox fanboy?

 

I think we are looking at a great system. That is my opinion. I'm open to other systems as well... that is why I really think the Wii will be a great system too. Xbox... I just don't care for it and I think they had too many problems at launch. What about their online service.. it is great. Gameplay??? Well... I think Halo is over-rated. So i really don't think it is that great of a system. (My opinion)

 

I am aware some of these comments may make me a Sony fanboy... but that is not entirely true.

 

Use common sense is all I say. The latter of the above quote was common sense.

[keilbaca]

Not being sarcastic or funny in any way, but I find it sort of interesting that, according to the story, if a PS3 overheats it needs only a reboot to fix it. If a 360 overheats, you get 3 red rings and a coffin from MS to ship it back in. Interesting....

 

Mendon

 

The PS3 just has a fail safe kick on it that stops operating if it gets too hot. Its in 90% of motherboards these days.

[Video]

That's a load. The reason for the Overheating prob is that the PS3 is a shoddy cheaply built piece of schit, like their other consoles.

 

Of course, even the best in electronics will overheat when abused....locked in small spaces.....low airflow....left on for days at a time....etc....

 

 

Bingo on the last part. Bullschit on the first. Are you a Nintendo or Xbox fanboy?

 

I think we are looking at a great system. That is my opinion. I'm open to other systems as well... that is why I really think the Wii will be a great system too. Xbox... I just don't care for it and I think they had too many problems at launch. What about their online service.. it is great. Gameplay??? Well... I think Halo is over-rated. So i really don't think it is that great of a system. (My opinion)

 

I am aware some of these comments may make me a Sony fanboy... but that is not entirely true.

 

Use common sense is all I say. The latter of the above quote was common sense.

 

Neither actually, While My PS2 didn't quiet die on me befor it got stolen, it was OBVIOUSLY going out (I kind of feel sorry for the Poor bastid that stole it ) And I know of Nobody around here that hasn't gone through at least one, and often several systems themselves. As for the others, Well, I've heard of the problems with early X-boxes, but I've had mine since day one, and never a problem, and most of my friends still have their originals....I would say "maybe it's the internal disc drive" but no, the PS2 also had an internal disc drive, rather than a topload. As for the GameCube, I know of nobody that has problems with those...of coures, I know of nobody that plays it half as much as either of the other systems either.

 

I also went through 4 standard PSX'x also, one 5k something (with the ports) one 9k something, without the ports, and one PSOne, those seem prone to overheating anyways, and since I replaced my second PSone, with a PS2, while it did still work, I guess I can say I technically replaced it also.

[EricDeLee]

I guess I don't understand... I use my stuff quite a bit. My PS2 is overused if anything. No problems with it though.

 

Strange... never had problems with the first PSx or PSone either.