The REAL natural habitat

[+doctorclu]

My setup hasn't changed in about 4 years. I also have about 90% of my Atari hardware in storage bins so I just have a little corner of my desk for my trusty 130XE with a 32in1 OS mod and both sio2pc and sio2osx setups. I guess about the only thing I've added is the new MacBook (SIO2OSX works great btw) and some Nintendo DS games in the background

 

Oh wow! Another SIO2OSX user! Nice. That makes both of us probably.

 

I haven't used mine in a bit with the flash working, but it was fairly reliable. I believe any problems I might have had might have been timing using with using the G3 Wallstreet I was using.

[oesii]

Yeah, I just recently switched to SIO2OSX after I got my Intel MacBook and Mark released a new universal binary. It has worked great for the few things I've thrown at it. I think there are more than a handful of people using it judging by the number of registered users that get the email updates.

[mimo]

Edited January 4, 2007 by mimo

[mimo]

spot the newbie

Edited January 4, 2007 by mimo

[mimo]

sorry

Edited January 4, 2007 by mimo

[mimo]

finaly got my 800xl up and running with sio2pc

thanks to deathtrappomegranate

Edited January 4, 2007 by mimo

[+bf2k+]

My "Monster" was hooked up until I moved (12/1). I was hoping it would be back up by now but still waiting on some stuff for the computer room to arrive. As soon as I get it back together I will post pics here.

[Cybernoid]

Here is my 130XE... Yes, this is one of the conference rooms at work!!!

 

The XE is connected to the projector screen to the right...

 

 

Edited January 5, 2007 by Cybernoid

[Pengwin]

Here is my 130XE... Yes, this is one of the conference rooms at work!!!

 

The XE is connected to the projector screen to the right...

 

 

 

That's brilliant! Do you use the 130 XE for presentations, or relaxing after hours?

[Cybernoid]

 

That's brilliant! Do you use the 130 XE for presentations, or relaxing after hours?

 

For relaxing during lunch, after hours... or browsing the web...

 

Here is a screen of my new color ANSI terminal on the big screen...

 

[Urchlay]

Here is a screen of my new color ANSI terminal on the big screen...

 

Hey, that's pretty cool... That's a 130XE? What terminal program is that?

[Cybernoid]

Here is a screen of my new color ANSI terminal on the big screen...

 

Hey, that's pretty cool... That's a 130XE? What terminal program is that?

 

Yes. It is a 130XE on screen. The terminal program is mine, of my own making. I call it ANSITERM. It does 8 colors on screen (so you have 8 colors for the background text and 8 colors for the foreground).

 

Here is the XEX file. It is still beta... So there is some screen noise, it uses extended memory and can be slow.. but it looks good.

 

And the commands in the term window:

 

 

* CTRL-SHIFT-D - Delete Macros

* CTRL-SHIFT-N - New Macro Save to Disk

* CTRL-SHIFT-M - Macro Load

* CTRL-SHIFT-R - Baud [R]ate * (Was CTRL-SHIFT-B)

* CTRL-SHIFT-F - Toggle Line [F]eeds * (Was CTRL-SHIFT-L)

* CTRL-SHIFT-E - Toggle Local [E]cho

* CTRL-SHIFT-S - Toggle 80/40 columns (creen Size) * (Was CTRL-SHIFT-C)

* CTRL-SHIFT-W - Toggle Word [W]rap

* CTRL-SHIFT-T - Toggle [T]erminal Emulation (ATASCII, ANSI, VT52 mode)

* CTRL-SHIFT-H - [H]angUp

* CTRL-SHIFT-I - nsert char mode or Replace mode (replace is default)

* CTRL-SHIFT-> - Move screen Right

* CTRL-SHIFT-(UP_ARROW) "

* CTRL-SHIFT-< - Move screen Left

* CTRL-SHIFT-(DOWN_ARROW) "

* CTRL-SHIFT-? - Toggle screen

* CTRL-SHIFT-[ - Toggle Foreground Color

* CTRL-SHIFT-] - Toggle Background Colo

 

ansiterm.zip

Edited January 5, 2007 by Cybernoid

[dinosaur]

Great terminal program!

 

You might want to change the name,though,to avoid confusion with a terminal program,

 

back in the day,written by a Mr. Sinclair called ANSITerm.

[Cybernoid]

Great terminal program!

 

You might want to change the name,though,to avoid confusion with a terminal program,

 

back in the day,written by a Mr. Sinclair called ANSITerm.

 

Good idea. I was not aware of the original ANSITerm. I did know of an Ansiterm on the ST.

 

Any ideas on a name for this Terminal? Color AnsiTerm?

 

Here are a few more pictures just for fun. Flowers Mania looks awesome via S-video and a big screen!

 

[Urchlay]

Any ideas on a name for this Terminal? Color AnsiTerm?

 

How about CAT, or CTTY (for Color Teletype, pronounced "kitty")?

 

Or Cat-Term (Color Ansi Teletype Terminal) if you want to incorporate the word "term".

 

Here is the XEX file. It is still beta... So there is some screen noise, it uses extended memory and can be slow.. but it looks good.

 

By extended, do you mean it uses the RAM under the OS on an XL, or that it requires a 130XE or greater?

 

Yet another reason I need a bigger Atari...

 

It does 8 colors on screen (so you have 8 colors for the background text and 8 colors for the foreground).

 

Do you accomplish this by flickering red/green/blue every 3 frames?

 

I wrote a crappy little demo that does this, was planning to turn it into a color ANSI term... guess someone beat me to it

[Cybernoid]

 

How about CAT, or CTTY (for Color Teletype, pronounced "kitty")?

 

Or Cat-Term (Color Ansi Teletype Terminal) if you want to incorporate the word "term".

 

Awesome. I like Catterm! I will change it soon.

 

 

By extended, do you mean it uses the RAM under the OS on an XL, or that it requires a 130XE or greater?

 

It does not use RAM under the OS, it requires a second XE BANK.

 

 

Do you accomplish this by flickering red/green/blue every 3 frames?

 

Not exactly. It flickers 2 screens only for less flicker. It does red, blue, white on one and green, cyan, white on the other. I think that is right. I wrote it a while ago. This seems to look fairly good. I think I was able to do more than 8 colors with this, kinda if you look at the interlace mixing.

 

 

I wrote a crappy little demo that does this, was planning to turn it into a color ANSI term... guess someone beat me to it

 

Cool. That might also look good.

[dinosaur]

Cybernoid....Bravo Zulu!

 

The big display boogles the mind!

 

If only you could take it back in time to an '80's AtariFest!

[Urchlay]

It does not use RAM under the OS, it requires a second XE BANK.

 

Well, pretty soon I'm going to have at least a 256K XL, until then I can only run it in the emulator

 

Not exactly. It flickers 2 screens only for less flicker. It does red, blue, white on one and green, cyan, white on the other. I think that is right. I wrote it a while ago. This seems to look fairly good. I think I was able to do more than 8 colors with this, kinda if you look at the interlace mixing.

 

I can't tell from the screen shot... how are you doing 4 colors per frame? GR.0/GR.8 with artifacting, or GR.15 with 4-pixel-wide fonts?

 

I wrote a crappy little demo that does this, was planning to turn it into a color ANSI term... guess someone beat me to it

 

Cool. That might also look good.

 

I'll clean it up and post it here... right now it has some fugly default colors, left over from my experimenting with it.

 

I did a 2-frame version, with red and green only. Was able to get 4 foreground colors this way with almost no visible flicker, but they were white, pink, green, and orange (no way to get blue, and I couldn't find a way to get a proper red without eye-boggling flicker).

[atarixle]

Here is the XEX file. It is still beta... So there is some screen noise, it uses extended memory and can be slow.. but it looks good.

 

Great Terminal! Finally we can browse the web with colors!

 

On your screen, it seems, that you are browsing for a while yet. On my machine, ansiterm.xex crashes after a while (I have to press reset twice and reload ansiterm.xex). The program crashes after displaying big lists (like ls -la) or websites.

 

So here my questions:

What browser do you use? (Lynx?)

Do you have a NTSC- or PAL-machine? (I have PAL)

 

Keep on with this catty (what about this name?) !

[Cybernoid]

 

Great Terminal! Finally we can browse the web with colors!

 

Thanks!

 

On your screen, it seems, that you are browsing for a while yet. On my machine, ansiterm.xex crashes after a while (I have to press reset twice and reload ansiterm.xex). The program crashes after displaying big lists (like ls -la) or websites.

 

Are you using APE? Yes, it will crash after a while. This is because APE does not throttle the data being sent to the Atari and eventually Ansiterm will overrun its buffer. I have had the same problem with bobterm and ice-t after a longer while. I have gotten around this be using cygwin and a few scripts to slow down the data being sent to APE to 300bps, 1200bps, 2400bps, 9600bps or 19200bps. It works well to keep the terminal programs happy for a long time, but currently bogs down your APE machine.

 

In my "How to run a telnet server under windows for APE using Cygwin... " post, I am looking for some web space to post the 20Meg zip file of my Cygwin Install for others to download. This has the telnet server, lynx and the throttling. Anyone have a webpage I can put this on?

 

So here my questions:

What browser do you use? (Lynx?)

Do you have a NTSC- or PAL-machine? (I have PAL)

 

Yes, I use lynx. I have an NTSC machine. Although, I have tested the terminal in PAL in the emulator...

 

The first problem I have had with the terminal is that it locks up. I have fixed this with an external PC install... the next problem is to fix some of the lynx screen errors. I am capturing lynx output and debugging what it happening, so there will be updates to the term.

 

Keep on with this catty (what about this name?) !

 

Catty.... I like it! Maybe I'll do a poll for the name...

[Cybernoid]

I can't tell from the screen shot... how are you doing 4 colors per frame? GR.0/GR.8 with artifacting, or GR.15 with 4-pixel-wide fonts?

 

It is graphics mode E with 4-pixel wide fonts. Two screens flicker:

one with blue (x88), gray (x08) and rust/gold(x28),

the other with yellow-green (xC8), gray (x08) and dark orange (x38).

 

Red = 0x28 | 0x38

Green = 0 | 0xc8

Yellow = 0xc8 | 0x28

Blue = 0 | 0x88

Purple = 0x88 | 0x38

Cyan = 0x88 | 0xc8

Gray = 0x08 | 0x08

 

I did several experiments and this produced the least flicker - flickers only on green and blue.

 

I did a 2-frame version, with red and green only. Was able to get 4 foreground colors this way with almost no visible flicker, but they were white, pink, green, and orange (no way to get blue, and I couldn't find a way to get a proper red without eye-boggling flicker).

 

Yep. Try my color scheme. You can get more colors, but I wanted a pure gray/white.

Edited January 6, 2007 by Cybernoid

[Urchlay]

 

It is graphics mode E with 4-pixel wide fonts. Two screens flicker:

one with blue (x88), gray (x08) and rust/gold(x28),

the other with yellow-green (xC8), gray (x08) and dark orange (x38).

 

I really wish I could run this on real hardware... the emulator never looks anything like the real thing for stuff like this

 

I did a 2-frame version, with red and green only. Was able to get 4 foreground colors this way with almost no visible flicker, but they were white, pink, green, and orange (no way to get blue, and I couldn't find a way to get a proper red without eye-boggling flicker).

 

Yep. Try my color scheme. You can get more colors, but I wanted a pure gray/white.

 

Mine uses GR.0 characters, with quad-width player/missile overlays (one quad P/M pixel = 4 clocks = 1 GR.0 character). It turns out that the GR.0 foreground pixels are displayed with the same hue as *whatever* background is behind them (either color register 2 or a player/missile), so I can only get e.g. pink on dark red, or dark red on pink (inverse video), never red on white or white on red.

 

I had the idea to use GR.8 with 3 fonts (normal, artifacted red, artifacted green) plus P/M overlays, but I never was able to draw artifacted characters that looked good to me (which could just be my own lack of imagination).

[atarixle]

Are you using APE?

 

No, I'm connected to a Linux via ttyS0. My Linux-Installation is running inside Qemu 0.8.2 with COM-Port-Support. In Ice-T, this configuration works well.

 

I will try to slow down the baud rate.

 

EDIT:

With 2400 Baud it works well :-)

 

How do I tell lynx to use colors?

Edited January 6, 2007 by atarixle

[Urchlay]

How do I tell lynx to use colors?

 

Try "export TERM=ansi" before running lynx.

 

If this works, you can set the term type in /etc/inittab (should be the last parameter to getty/agetty/uugetty).

 

I've got a DEC VT220 terminal, so I use this:

 

s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -L ttyS0 19200 vt220

 

For an ANSI terminal, just change the "vt220" to "ansi".

[Cybernoid]

No, I'm connected to a Linux via ttyS0. My Linux-Installation is running inside Qemu 0.8.2 with COM-Port-Support. In Ice-T, this configuration works well.

 

Qemu. That is cool... so you have Linux running under Windows? Are you using the AtariSIO driver?

 

http://www.horus.com/~hias/atari/

 

For the 2400bps... exactly. I was going to say that 300 - 2400 baud works well. I have not tested 4800 or 9600 that much.

Urchlay is right. This is what I used to do when I had a linux box. But that syntax works for bash. If you are using a csh derivative, like tcsh, then I think you can do "set TERM ansi".

 

 

 

Now for some networked color ansi console games via Atari's

 

http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Entertainmen...sole_Games.html

Edited January 6, 2007 by Cybernoid