Sony: XBL HDTV" A disservice"

[8th lutz]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6161261.html for the whole article

 

Scea's Dave Karraker said "I think they are doing a disservice to their consumer base because they are ignoring all those people who bought the Core system," referring to the lower-end $299 Xbox 360 system. Said system does not come with the attachable hard drive necessary to store content downloaded off of Xbox Live".

 

Naturally, SCEA's head spokesman pointed out that both the $499 and $599 models of the PlayStation 3 have hard drives built in. "We would never segregate or shut out any of our consumers from our entertainment experience because they didn't buy the top of the line system," said Karraker. The HDD-equipped premium Xbox 360 costs $399, and the hard drive itself costs $99.99 when bought separately.

 

The executive also pointed out the fact that 7 gigabytes of the Xbox 360's 20-gigabyte hard drive are taken up by preloaded content, such as the game Hexic, and its operating system. He did not point out the fact that nearly 4GB of said content is deletable. Since only test units have been made available to the press, it is unknown how much of the final retail PS3s' hard drives, which weigh in at 20GB or 60GB, will be taken up by their operating systems and preloaded content.

 

Microsoft plans on launching its video and movie service on November 22. Sony executives said at its 2006 Gamers Day that the company will eventually tap its vast library of music, video, and movie content to distribute online to PS3s, but they won't say when. "We haven't announced when other entertainment content, beyond games, will be available from the PlayStation Store," said Karraker.

Edited November 8, 2006 by 8th lutz

[Jess Ragan]

My math is terrible, but I'm pretty sure that four hundred dollars is still less than five hundred.

 

JR

[JB]

My math is terrible, but I'm pretty sure that four hundred dollars is still less than five hundred.

 

JR

You should double-check your math with a Sony NumberStation calculator. You'll find out pretty fast that 300+100 = 700, making the core 360 and a hard drive more expensive than anything Sony sells.

[moycon]

Here's another interview for gamers who don't give a crap about watching flicks on their game console and just want to play video games.

 

November 3, 2006 - Silicon Knights, makers of Eternal Darkness, are readying the forever-in-development Too Human for the Xbox 360, as well as an unannounced title for the PlayStation 3. Speaking to the San Jose Mercury News, the company's President, Denis Dyack, says the next-generation systems are virtually identical in terms of power.

 

"The 360 and the PS3 are equal in power in my eyes," Dyack says. "Maybe the PS3 has more processing power. The 360 has more available memory. It's pretty much a net, net. The public perception of the PS3 was that it was much more powerful. To developers, they look even."

 

Silicon Knights had a working relationship with Nintendo for several years, making Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes for the GameCube. That partnership ended in 2004, though, and Dyack says he has no current plans to develop for the Wii. Too Human is planned as a trilogy for the Xbox 360.

[Atarifever]

Who cares anymore if they got the core or the premium? If you bought the core a year ago then I'd say chances are you now have the money to spare for the HDD if you want it. See, there's someting Sony doesn't get. Just becaue buying all the components you want for the 360 could run you to the cost of a PS3, doesn't make it the same price. If you want to pay $299 and $49 (for a memory card), and then just play games without any more investments, good. If, in a couple yeas, it is apparent that HDDVD is winning the format war, you can buy the HDDVD add on, and if HDDVD fails, you can not buy it. If you, like me, have your internet coming into your living room, it's hard to justify paying for the Xbox 360 wifi. If you see a HDD for sale at a pawn shop for $40, then you can buy it. Potentially spending $500-600 over 4 or 5 years is a lot different than definitely plunking down the money in one shot. Besides, if you're a solo gamer who doesn't care for High def. or downloadable content, then your 360 (with memory card) could run as little as $350. It is, then, entirely possible to enjoy the 360 at a very decent price. The LEAST the PS3 will run you up is $500, regardless of the features you want.

Edited November 8, 2006 by Atarifever

[Albert]

Who cares anymore if they got the core or the premium? If you bought the core a year ago then I'd say chances are you now have the money to spare for the HDD if you want it. See, there's someting Sony doesn't get. Just becaue buying all the components you want for the 360 could run you to the cost of a PS3, doesn't make it the same price. If you want to pay $299 and $49 (for a memory card)...

Wow, is that how much a memory card costs on the 360? I knew 360 peripherals were overpriced, but that's pretty ridiculous. I just looked on Best Buy's site. $39.99 for a 64MB memory card. That's insane considering you can get a 2GB CompactFlash card for the same price (or less, even!)

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...CMP=OTC-Froogle

 

Having said that, it is funny that Sony is knocking down the 360 using such arguments, but I don't really see why this is news. They are a competitor, they are not exactly going to have nice things to say about the 360 (or the Wii). It'd be better if people just ignored sily posturing like this.

 

..Al

[AtariJr]

Who cares anymore if they got the core or the premium? If you bought the core a year ago then I'd say chances are you now have the money to spare for the HDD if you want it. See, there's someting Sony doesn't get. Just becaue buying all the components you want for the 360 could run you to the cost of a PS3, doesn't make it the same price. If you want to pay $299 and $49 (for a memory card)...

Wow, is that how much a memory card costs on the 360? I knew 360 peripherals were overpriced, but that's pretty ridiculous. I just looked on Best Buy's site. $39.99 for a 64MB memory card. That's insane considering you can get a 2GB CompactFlash card for the same price (or less, even!)

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...CMP=OTC-Froogle

 

Having said that, it is funny that Sony is knocking down the 360 using such arguments, but I don't really see why this is news. They are a competitor, they are not exactly going to have nice things to say about the 360 (or the Wii). It'd be better if people just ignored sily posturing like this.

 

..Al

 

agreed, what do you want sony to say, go buy the 360 its cheaper and just as powerful.. screw our own system. then again m$ told poeple to go buy a wii, so maybe it will come to that someday

[Albert]

agreed, what do you want sony to say, go buy the 360 its cheaper and just as powerful.. screw our own system. then again m$ told poeple to go buy a wii, so maybe it will come to that someday

Yeah, it'd be nice if they focused on the strength of their system instead of trying to disparage their competitors. Reminds me of the messy races during the election campaign. I think Sony is getting a tad desperate. Not that they won't sell every PS3 they manage to ship to the states this holiday season, but you know damn well Microsoft and Nintendo are going to sell many more consoles, and that probably does not make them very happy.

 

..Al

[Gabriel]

Wow, is that how much a memory card costs on the 360? I knew 360 peripherals were overpriced, but that's pretty ridiculous. I just looked on Best Buy's site. $39.99 for a 64MB memory card. That's insane considering you can get a 2GB CompactFlash card for the same price (or less, even!)

 

$40 is the average price for a 360 memory card. When I got my system I found a place selling the memory cards for $35, so that's how much I paid.

[AtariJr]

agreed, what do you want sony to say, go buy the 360 its cheaper and just as powerful.. screw our own system. then again m$ told poeple to go buy a wii, so maybe it will come to that someday

Yeah, it'd be nice if they focused on the strength of their system instead of trying to disparage their competitors. Reminds me of the messy races during the election campaign. I think Sony is getting a tad desperate. Not that they won't sell every PS3 they manage to ship to the states this holiday season, but you know damn well Microsoft and Nintendo are going to sell many more consoles, and that probably does not make them very happy.

 

..Al

i think the fact that they feel the pressure of true competition in the first time in years is simply making them sweat. every major video game console maker out there has come to this before.. where they gain power and start to slowly lose it becuase of changing markets and wants from the consumer. it happened to sega, atari, nintendo etc. the thing they need to do is make sure is that they dont fall down screaming like some, and just truck it and hope for future success like nintendo. sony's just ticked about the idea of not being #1 on the mountain anymore, and they are desperately doing evertything they can to make people think that they still are and will be after this holiday.

 

and yes, i think its sad how similar politics marketing and gaming marketing is right now. nothing but ego boosts and slams at the competition. we were just talking about this today in my marketing class actually, how besides politics "if any one else used these marketing tactics the consumers would blow it off and not take the company seriously, where as its opposite with politics. For instance if IBM and Apple went up to the podium and started dissing each other like politicians do, thier credibitiy would suffer". i guess she was wrong, i think the gaming market takes this stuff too well as well.