Turbo Freezer vs. Maxflash Cart

[+Larry]

I was considering purchasing a Turbo Freezer 2005, but after reading through the manual for the Freezer, it struck me that except for the actual "freeezing" ability and built-in mini-dos, its features are similar to the Maxflash cart. (?) In fact, it looks like to use the cartridge emulation, the process is quite similar to generating the scripts used for Maxflash. Clearly if "freezing" a program is an important consideration, then the TF2005 has no real equivalent in the Maxflash. Am I missing anything here? -Larry

[Heaven/TQA]

the freezer is more for debugging proposes like i am using while developing my games.

 

the build in DOS etc are really great... same goes to the oldrunner... all the stuff you don't have in the atari8max which i have as well.

 

the similar flashing code is because of compatibility to maxflas?

[cas]

I was considering purchasing a Turbo Freezer 2005, but after reading through the manual for the Freezer, it struck me that except for the actual "freeezing" ability and built-in mini-dos, its features are similar to the Maxflash cart. (?) In fact, it looks like to use the cartridge emulation, the process is quite similar to generating the scripts used for Maxflash. Clearly if "freezing" a program is an important consideration, then the TF2005 has no real equivalent in the Maxflash. Am I missing anything here? -Larry

 

The Turbo Freezer is at first a Freezer, a Program to fully create s anapshot of the running system including full hardware state and save this state to Freezer-RAM, Extended RAM (Ramdisk) or to Disk.

 

The Freezer is great:

* to create snapshots while playing difficult games

* to enter cheat codes (more lives etc)

* for debugging

* to use the build-in minidos

 

The Freezer is the equivalent to the Atari800 Emulator Monitor for real hardware Ataris.

 

The cartridge emulations supports normal 4K and 8K Carts, as well as OSS Carts (ACTION!, Basic XL/XE ...) and the original SpartaDOS X. And with the adapted AtariMax flashsoftware it offers the same function as an AtariMax Flash.

 

If you're looking for a tool to get any kind of disk-based program in cart, the AtariMax Cart is what you're looking for.

 

If you're looking for Freezer Functionality (saving and inspecting the state of the system) with additional Cart Emulation, then the Turbo Freezer 2005 is the product you want.

 

Carsten

[tjb]

Where can I purchase the Turbo Freezer 2005?

 

tjb

[BigBen]

Where can I purchase the Turbo Freezer 2005?

 

tjb

 

Into the ABBUC shop "Hardware" - Freezer XL or XE. If you are not ABBUC member please add 5€.

http://www.abbuc.de/shopabbuc/index.php

 

Bernd

Edited November 26, 2006 by BigBen

[Beetle]

You can send an english eMail to wolfgang(at)abbuc(dot)de, too.

Simply write him you like purchase one freezer XL or XE.

 

Regards,

Beetle

[HiassofT]

Actually the ported Maxflash software is just a small add-on to the TurboFreezer and the cartridge emulation was a by-product of using a flash-rom instead of an EPROM and adding an option to program the flash directly from the Atari.

 

The cartridge emulation of the TurboFreezer is much more sophisticated than the Maxflash Cart. In addition to true 8k/16k/OSS/SDX emulation from the flash rom you can also configure the TurboFreezer so that when pressing Reset the CartEmu is reset, too (nice if you want to play several games stored in the flash, without having to turn off the Atari). You can also store cartridge data in the TurboFreezer RAM instead of flash and can then use the TurboFreezer monitor/debugger to change single bytes of the cart data without the need to re-flash the whole cartridge image - nice if you want to develop a cart by yourself.

 

The flasher program lets you write to each flash block (64k) separately so the remaining cartridge data (eg PacMan and MAC/65) is untouched and you can also dump the current flash contents (or parts of it) to a file - nice for backups of a cart-collection you set up over some time.

 

I'd say the main target of the TurboFreezer is developers and gamers (who like the "snapshot" feature).

 

Another nice feature: you can use the TurboFreezer to hard-reset a crashed Atari: just press the freezer button during a reset and the TurboFreezer will start immediately. Then press reset again to do a real cold-start.

 

so long,

 

Hias

[tjb]

Where can I purchase the Turbo Freezer 2005?

 

tjb

 

Into the ABBUC shop "Hardware" - Freezer XL or XE. If you are not ABBUC member please add 5€.

http://www.abbuc.de/shopabbuc/index.php

 

Bernd

 

Thanks for the info. Is there any advantage to the XE version? Is it just a matter of interface? I own both and since I don't speak German I'm not sure which version I should get.

 

tjb

[Almost Rice]

Thanks for the info. Is there any advantage to the XE version? Is it just a matter of interface? I own both and since I don't speak German I'm not sure which version I should get.

 

I would get the XL version. You could still use it with a Cart/ECI to PBI converter on a XE. You could not get the XE version to work on an XL as easily. I had planned on getting both, but put it on hold for now.

[BigBen]

If you want more information about the freezer look into the manual.

http://www.horus.com/~hias/freezer/manual/...an-eng-0.90.pdf

 

Bernd