Is this the right Eeprom burner I would need?

[BonnutFilmStudio]

I found this one on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Advanced-Willem-EPROM-...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Is that the correct one?

[Breakpack]

For what?Baking cookies?

[BonnutFilmStudio]

is that a no?

[Dragnerok X]

I found this one on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Advanced-Willem-EPROM-...1QQcmdZViewItem

 

Is that the correct one?

 

For making games? Yes, and no. Yes it can program the eproms you would need to make a game. The problem is from the looks of this it could only program certain chips. For example, if you wanted to make a game that was 4k using a 2732 or a 27c32 (basically the same thing) you couldn't do that without extra (AC) power. If you want a willem programmer, like this one, find the "dual power" model. That's the one that should work.

[BonnutFilmStudio]

O ok cool thanks Would you reccomend a better programmer than Willem? Or is the Willem dual power preferred?

[Dragnerok X]

O ok cool thanks Would you reccomend a better programmer than Willem? Or is the Willem dual power preferred?

 

Willem, as far as I know, is not the best eprom programmer out there. Actually, one of the worst, hence the sticker price. If you must get a willem, get the dual power. However, I've heard really good things about bp microsystem's programmers if you can afford one.

[BonnutFilmStudio]

Thanks for the help, I'll look into it

[Dragnerok X]

Thanks for the help, I'll look into it

 

No problem.

[+RandomPerson]

O ok cool thanks Would you reccomend a better programmer than Willem? Or is the Willem dual power preferred?

 

Willem, as far as I know, is not the best eprom programmer out there. Actually, one of the worst, hence the sticker price. If you must get a willem, get the dual power. However, I've heard really good things about bp microsystem's programmers if you can afford one.

 

 

Even the dual power doesn't program 2732's right. Just stay the hell away from the Willem at all costs. The Top200X is not bad for the price. It's USB powered\program and is also auto-detect. It's a few steps up from a Willem for sure and it won't empty your wallet on you either. They cost about 100 to 200 depending on the seller and the model of the burner you get.

Edited November 24, 2006 by Shawn Sr.

[BonnutFilmStudio]

O ok cool thanks Would you reccomend a better programmer than Willem? Or is the Willem dual power preferred?

 

Willem, as far as I know, is not the best eprom programmer out there. Actually, one of the worst, hence the sticker price. If you must get a willem, get the dual power. However, I've heard really good things about bp microsystem's programmers if you can afford one.

 

 

Even the dual power doesn't program 2732's right. Just stay the hell away from the Willem at all costs. The Top200X is not bad for the price. It's USB powered\program and is also auto-detect. It's a few steps up from a Willem for sure and it won't empty your wallet on you either. They cost about 100 to 200 depending on the seller and the model of the burner you get.

Cool, thanks!

[Urchlay]

Just stay the hell away from the Willem at all costs. The Top200X is not bad for the price. It's USB powered\program and is also auto-detect.

 

Does anyone have any experience using the modern USB EPROM burners with Linux or BSD? I've got an old 1980s vintage burner that works great (uses serial port at 9600 baud), but it'll only burn older model EPROMs... one day I won't be able to get those any more, though it's not a problem for now.

 

I'd love to hear success stories, but even failure stories might give me a clue what model to get (or avoid).

[Uzumaki]

Well, I use Willem and I haven't had any problem. I've made a slight alteration to make it support 2732 EPROM (for most model, a jumper pin between socket pin 30 and 28 will do) But Willem is not the best programmer for first time users as it's a bit of a fickle. Get the wrong DIP switch or jumper setting and you only waste time (and maybe the OTP EPROM or other program-once chips) plus if you managed to set the DIP switch the wrong way, you could burn out compoment(s). On my board, turning on switch 5 and 6 will melt a couple transistors.

 

There are other burners that can set automatically for EPROMs but the last one I used was a Needhams brand that uses ISA slot and I don't think it can support anything over 2 or 4MB. PB-10 if you have an older PC laying around, can hook it to network, and knows how to use DOS command since program doesn't work with Windows.

[Bruce Tomlin]

Even the dual power doesn't program 2732's right. Just stay the hell away from the Willem at all costs.

Ditto on that.

 

Try this search and ignore the JBL speakers that always show up:

 

http://cq-search.ebay.com/search/search.dl...+Needham+EMP%29

 

Unfortunately right now there's only an EMP-10, which requires a special driver to run under NT/2K/XP and only runs in full-screen text mode.

[Breakpack]

Even the dual power doesn't program 2732's right. Just stay the hell away from the Willem at all costs.

Ditto on that.

 

Try this search and ignore the JBL speakers that always show up:

 

http://cq-search.ebay.com/search/search.dl...+Needham+EMP%29

 

Unfortunately right now there's only an EMP-10, which requires a special driver to run under NT/2K/XP and only runs in full-screen text mode.

Even better

 

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?s...op=1%26fsoo%3D1

[Dragnerok X]

Even better

 

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?s...op=1%26fsoo%3D1

 

 

BP Microsystems BP-2200 Device Programmer....

$5,000.00!?!

 

[Uzumaki]

Way too much for that one. No one needs a $5,000 system for making 2600 carts.

 

As an alternative to finding a burner, an eraser, and some EPROMs, you could pay someone here to burn a few for ya.

[Bruce Tomlin]

Even better

 

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?s...op=1%26fsoo%3D1

 

BP Microsystems BP-2200 Device Programmer....

$5,000.00!?!

 

Yeah, their super-pro shows up from time to time. A 6-up programmer is a bit much for doing 2600 homebrews. I wouldn't mind having me a BP-1400 or BP-1600 with that cool multi-size quad-pack adaptor that I've seen, but now that I have an EMP-31, I can get real socket modules when I need them, and Neednams doesn't play that cagey "check with our distributors for pricing" game that BP does.

 

But at least BP still supports every parallel-port programmer they've ever made. Needhams won't support the EMP-10 or EMP-20 with their Windows-based software.