Do all NTSC games have a PAL counterpart?

[rheffera]

Yeah as the title suggests, do NTSC games have PAL counterparts. For example

 

Worm War I

Infiltrate

Atari Video Cube Etc.

 

If someone could give a few names of games that dont appear to have a non-pirate PAL counterpart then i know what to go after on US Ebay

 

Thanks for any help!

Edited November 27, 2006 by rheffera

[Uzumaki]

There are a number of NTSC games that aren't released in PAL format. A quick and dirty list is to go to AA home page, click on 2600 link, select NTSC to show list of NTSC games. Copy it, go back to the search page and select PAL to get PAL list.

 

Compare it side by side to find games not ported.

 

I wish I could help here but I don't really bother with PAL games so I don't know offhand which games are NTSC only and which are PAL only.

[Dino]

Yeah as the title suggests, do NTSC games have PAL counterparts. For example

 

Worm War I

Infiltrate

Atari Video Cube Etc.

 

If someone could give a few names of games that dont appear to have a non-pirate PAL counterpart then i know what to go after on US Ebay

 

Thanks for any help!

 

There are some games that dont have a counterpart. Apart from the ones you list, some are:

 

chase the chuck wagon

Quadrun

Avalon Hill games (maybe a pirate exists?)

Halloween

River patrol (may have a Carerre equivalent?)

Mystique/Playaround games (exist in PAL but almost impossible to find)

Montezuma's revenge

James bond 007 (i think)

tax avoiders

Texas chainsaw massacre

Swordquest: Waterworld

Rescue Terra I

Tapper

Spy Hunter

Berenstain Bears

Glib

Lochjaw (but shark attack will suffice)

Malagai

Eli's ladder

Gauntlet

Q*berts qubes

River patrol

tooth protectors (but there are PAL pirate equivalents)

Music machine

Video life

 

some of the above may have PAL priate versions available, i'm not sure.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

No, else those TV format conversions wouldn't exist.

[YOK-dfa]

River patrol (may have a Carerre equivalent?)

Mystique/Playaround games (exist in PAL but almost impossible to find)

 

There is a PAL River Patrol proto. Although not officially released, it does exist. And about those Mystique/Playaround games, difficult to find does not mean they don't exist It seems most (all?) of them are available in PAL.

 

 

No, else those TV format conversions wouldn't exist.

Why is there a NTSC -> PAL conversion for Cakewalk? A PAL version of that game exists.

Edited November 27, 2006 by YOK-dfa

[Mayhem]

Canyon Bomber and Starship didn't get PAL release.

[YOK-dfa]

BTW i can anyone confirm that Montezuma's Revenge does not exist in PAL? I remember that i have seen copies advertised as being PAL

[Rom Hunter]

If there's no PAL version entry of any Atari 2600 NTSC game in the Atarimania database, then it hasn't been found yet.

 

It's as simple as that.

 

[YOK-dfa]

It's as simple as that.

I disagree. It's not that simple. Because it's not in the atarimania list yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 'New' PAL versions are being found on a regular basis. I'm 100% sure someone offered me a supposedly PAL versions of that game last year. I'll try and find that email/PM and see if he has any proof to back up his PAL claim (if only i could remember who it was )

[Thomas Jentzsch]

Why is there a NTSC -> PAL conversion for Cakewalk? A PAL version of that game exists.

Either because the PAL version wasn't dumped or not known (e.g. Fatal Run) when the conversion was done.

[Rom Hunter]

It's as simple as that.

I disagree. It's not that simple. Because it's not in the atarimania list yet, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. 'New' PAL versions are being found on a regular basis.

And added to the Atarimania database if I notice the find.

 

It's as simple as that.

 

Edited November 27, 2006 by Rom Hunter

[YOK-dfa]

Let me try and explain that a little better. The list at Atarimania (but any list of that matter) is useful for determining if a cart exists If it's in the list, it means someone has spotted that cart. If it's not in the list, it doesn't prove anytime about the existence of that cart. It might exist (but not spotted yet) or it might not exist at all.

[Rom Hunter]

Let me try and explain that a little better. The list at Atarimania (but any list of that matter) is useful for determining if a cart exists If it's in the list, it means someone has spotted that cart. If it's not in the list, it doesn't prove anytime about the existence of that cart. It might exist (but not spotted yet) or it might not exist at all.

True.

 

[Thomas Jentzsch]

Proving the non-existance of something is almost impossible.

[Foxsolo2000]

Well I know for a fact that no Pal versions of the Sword Quest series exist officially for they were some of the mucvh sought after titles by UK collectors back in the early 80s

[Thomas Jentzsch]

Well I know for a fact that no Pal versions of the Sword Quest series exist officially for they were some of the mucvh sought after titles by UK collectors back in the early 80s

Prove it!

[thomasholzer]

Earthworld comes as a PAL game, with NO comic book (and of course, no competition to take part in)

Edited November 27, 2006 by thomasholzer

[Foxsolo2000]

No frickin way? I remember back in the early 80s being part of a large group of Atari collectors being very P****** off that the Earth World series was never going to be released in the UK. If a Pal Earth World was released which country did it end up in?

[deathtrappomegranate]

Both Earthworld and Fireworld exist as PAL versions.

[Thomas Jentzsch]

Both Earthworld and Fireworld exist as PAL versions.

I have the dumps on my HD.

[rheffera]

Yeah i hot a PAL Eathworld cart. pics on request Its just they are both RARE in the pal domain

[Dino]

River patrol (may have a Carerre equivalent?)

Mystique/Playaround games (exist in PAL but almost impossible to find)

 

There is a PAL River Patrol proto. Although not officially released, it does exist. And about those Mystique/Playaround games, difficult to find does not mean they don't exist It seems most (all?) of them are available in PAL.

 

 

No, else those TV format conversions wouldn't exist.

Why is there a NTSC -> PAL conversion for Cakewalk? A PAL version of that game exists.

 

The reason why I states the Playaround games was because its easy to find NTSC versions but nigh impossible to find PAL versions. If you're not fussed, you're better off going for the NTSC version. Its the same with River Patrol, Montezumas revenge etc. Rheffera wants to know which versions he should buy in NTSC and the answer is all of those as its virtually impossible to find the PAL equivalents (whether they exist or not).

[rheffera]

jUST LIKE SOME PAL games are easier to find and almost impossible for NTSC. Motorodeo for example, is only a rarity 5 in the pal scale. Much more common in PAL than NTSC

[Marco]

Uhm, try find a shrinkwrapped PAL Motorodeo, while its NTSC counterpart is only a rarity 3

 

Cheers,

Marco

[rheffera]

hmm i thought it was rarity 10 in NTSC. ah well you get my point anyways