retroillucid Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've just finished the prototype version of expansion module #5 (Yeah #5) I call it: The Arcade Quality Controller... NOTE: This is an early concept based on the Xarcade solo player...this's not a final product... What do you think? ... any ideas?....Should I produce them? at witch cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've just finished the prototype version of expansion module #5 (Yeah #5) I call it: The Arcade Quality Controller... NOTE: This is an early concept based on the Xarcade solo player...this's not a final product... What do you think? ... any ideas?....Should I produce them? at witch cost? First of all, are you simply talking theoretically, or are you really intent on doing a real prototype? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've just finished the prototype version of expansion module #5 (Yeah #5) I call it: The Arcade Quality Controller... NOTE: This is an early concept based on the Xarcade solo player...this's not a final product... What do you think? ... any ideas?....Should I produce them? at witch cost? First of all, are you simply talking theoretically, or are you really intent on doing a real prototype? The Proto is done...in a blank box... It work just REALLY fine... I use it now... and It use real arcade parts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 The Proto is done...in a blank box... It work just REALLY fine... I use it now... and It use real arcade parts.... Then why not show us a pic of your prototype instead of a mockup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 Your're totally right! But do you want to see a blank wood grain box with no design...I'm seriously talking to produce it...but don't know if Coleco Fans want something like this... from what I know is Colecovision controller sucks...I want something close to the arcade concept that coleco haved promoted... Yes It's no joke about it... the prototype is done but I want to show you more then wooden box.... How much coleco fans will pay for this.... how much they want it reality??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ten-four Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've just finished the prototype version of expansion module #5 (Yeah #5) I call it: The Arcade Quality Controller... NOTE: This is an early concept based on the Xarcade solo player...this's not a final product... What do you think? ... any ideas?....Should I produce them? at witch cost? :!: What about overlays, can they be moved in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've just finished the prototype version of expansion module #5 (Yeah #5) I call it: The Arcade Quality Controller... NOTE: This is an early concept based on the Xarcade solo player...this's not a final product... What do you think? ... any ideas?....Should I produce them? at witch cost? :!: What about overlays, can they be moved in ? Sadly...no..unless you want it in place definately... you know I've search for a solution but there's nothing I can do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Will you make a right-handed version? Thanks, 5-11under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 Will you make a right-handed version? Thanks, 5-11under Yup... on request... it will sort of customizable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRetroGamer Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Very nice! Would you consider a set of fire buttons on each side with the joystick in the middle? What kind of buttons and joystick are you planning to use - digital or leaf spring? FInally, what kind of price point are you looking at for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
else Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 expansion module #5 (Yeah #5) Okay, I guess I'll bite. What was expansion module #4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Your're totally right! But do you want to see a blank wood grain box with no design...I'm seriously talking to produce it...but don't know if Coleco Fans want something like this... from what I know is Colecovision controller sucks...I want something close to the arcade concept that coleco haved promoted... Yes It's no joke about it... the prototype is done but I want to show you more then wooden box.... How much coleco fans will pay for this.... how much they want it reality??? Well, an arcade stick with arcade-quality buttons would be very nice, but I already have that in the form of a CV Questar joystick (well, I don't have it yet, but it's in mid-shipment right now). Personally, what I would prefer is a NES-style D-Pad controller with integrated CV keypad. I would post a mockup of this controller, but that would be highjacking this thread. Anyhow, yes, I'd like to see your current prototype, even if it's not much to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybastard Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 It looks nice but unless it has four buttons for correct super action stick game use, I wouldn't buy one. Add those buttons, make it cost tops $35 and I'll be your first customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I'd pay about $35 - $40 for one... As far as the overlays go, if you're using the membrane keypads, you have the area around it a little door one could open to insert the overlays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Yes... very nice I might be interested if the price is good. And what was expansion #4 anyway? The first 3 would be the VCS adapter, steering wheel module, and Adam add on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+evg2000 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 And what was expansion #4 anyway? The first 3 would be the VCS adapter, steering wheel module, and Adam add on. I believe it's this: expansion #4 later, Charles www.evg2000.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRetroGamer Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Well, an arcade stick with arcade-quality buttons would be very nice, but I already have that in the form of a CV Questar joystick.. Not too many people have one (or two) of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) I'd certainly be interested in one, but I doubt you could release it at under $60, right? I'd prefer under $50, but if it really was arcade quality, I'd do more. In any case, one way around the overlay issue would be just to have a small clip on the right-hand side of the unit so we could slip the overlays under that and still be able to easily refer to them. Now mind you, if you were able to add compatible "Super Action Controller" functionality and perhaps even a trackball, it would be worth at least another $20 and may even spur more homebrew developments for those options. Also, if you replaced the keypad with a keypad from an old-style telephone (or something heavy-duty equivalent), that would be great too, particularly since you have intention of supporting overlays directly anyway. Edited December 21, 2006 by Bill_Loguidice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misspent_youth Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) <incorrect info deleted> I'd definitely be interested in this, though using arcade parts would likely drive the price up past $50. Still, I'd probably buy it, except that I'm in Canada, and the shipping would likely be ridiculous. As for the overlays, I dont see why it would be so difficult to have some sort of hacked part such as taking the grid from a standard controller and using some clips molded into the joystick base to make it removable. So you just pop it out, insert your overlay, and pop it back in place. Seems like that would require some intricacy in the molding you'd make for the base, however. Edited December 22, 2006 by misspent_youth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brasky Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've sold off all my arcade sticks like this. They're too big and bulky to have one for every system and you don't want to leave them sitting out because they take up so much space. You would sell more if you made a joypad since that's what most people are used to nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
else Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) Actually, the VCS adapter is #1, the wheel is # 2, the roller controller is #3, and Adam is # 4. That is 100% wrong! Please do a little homework before posting such obviously incorrect information..... Edited December 21, 2006 by else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've sold off all my arcade sticks like this. They're too big and bulky to have one for every system and you don't want to leave them sitting out because they take up so much space. You would sell more if you made a joypad since that's what most people are used to nowadays. I have to disagree. While making the stick as compact as possible would be nice, I personally wouldn't want a gamepad for the ColecoVision. You're not selling to the modern gamer who only knows gamepads, you're selling to the classic gaming enthusiasts who appreciates joysticks. On the plus side, this stick could also work on the Atari 2600 and a multitude of other systems that use the standard 9-pin connectors, so little would be lost by making this a full-featured ColecoVision arcade-style joystick, that, oh by the way, supports dozens of other systems too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 I've sold off all my arcade sticks like this. They're too big and bulky to have one for every system and you don't want to leave them sitting out because they take up so much space. You would sell more if you made a joypad since that's what most people are used to nowadays. I have to disagree. While making the stick as compact as possible would be nice, I personally wouldn't want a gamepad for the ColecoVision. You're not selling to the modern gamer who only knows gamepads, you're selling to the classic gaming enthusiasts who appreciates joysticks. On the plus side, this stick could also work on the Atari 2600 and a multitude of other systems that use the standard 9-pin connectors, so little would be lost by making this a full-featured ColecoVision arcade-style joystick, that, oh by the way, supports dozens of other systems too. First of all... The Expansion Module #4 is for the upcoming Opcode SEM.... As for the price for Expansion Module #5... it could not be under 50$...consider this... 1 joystick 2 distinct buttons... self adhesive overlay for the Control panel... the wood....I would like to make it under 60$... but I plan to put the trackball and even the Super action controls... Maybe someone have any more ideas that should be add.... The Original Expansion Module #4 was unreleased by coleco (For those who don't know) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggs130 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 If its a high quality item I'd pay up to $100.00! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 If that mock up used good arcade quality parts, you'd be talking about $50 just in the arcade parts ($35 for the kdypad, $15 for the stick, and aobua $1 per button, I know as I built a couple 5200 sticks myself) And if it's made with that good a parts, I'll bet you'd have no problem selling it for say $100. Oh well, I lfet out some prices, as there's the cable, and the box, not to mention time spent. But still $100 would probably be fair. BTW, why call this an expansion module? Will it use the expansion port in some way? I see no real reason for this, as you could just stick a 9pin din on the thing and plug it into a standard controller port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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