chris_lynx1989 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) For people who don't want to open their Lynxes themselves I am sure some chaps from the community will offer their service for shipping costs and a few bucks. That sounds great on the surface there,but how few bucks in these unsure and tight times in the world?My precise point with Atari dealers or Atari enthusiasts.Also,shipping for most things in my country are a killer issue,FAR WORSE if you're dealing with overseas shipping in my country and the customs issues that come with it. I've heard the stories from those that have had to do it and pass the cost on for a customer.Not pretty in these times of business.If you're in business like me and others I know out there,you know about it. I'm not trying to be a smartass or anything on this,just giving facts that we're going to probably be dealing with on this. Edited April 19, 2013 by chris_lynx1989 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
108 Stars Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Well, the board has to be shipped to you from overseas once; that can't be helped. As for doing the upgrade, I am sure there are US Lynx fans willing to help out. Shipping within the US can't be that expensive... And what's the point wondering about all that now? We will see a price when it's done, even if some players find it too expensive I believe there are enough Lynx enthusiasts in Europe alone to sell well. It can't be cheaper, as candle said the stripped down version would just be a few dollars cheaper and it's not worth the effort of having that manufactured. There are always people who cannot afford something for some reason; I know that, I worked for 4 years earning only about 1,50 dollars an hour. Those may get another chance later on. .) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfman Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 It can't be cheaper, as candle said the stripped down version would just be a few dollars cheaper and it's not worth the effort of having that manufactured. Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) Well, the board has to be shipped to you from overseas once; that can't be helped. As for doing the upgrade, I am sure there are US Lynx fans willing to help out. Shipping within the US can't be that expensive... And what's the point wondering about all that now? We will see a price when it's done, even if some players find it too expensive I believe there are enough Lynx enthusiasts in Europe alone to sell well. It can't be cheaper, as candle said the stripped down version would just be a few dollars cheaper and it's not worth the effort of having that manufactured. There are always people who cannot afford something for some reason; I know that, I worked for 4 years earning only about 1,50 dollars an hour. Those may get another chance later on. .) I agree now that it is sort of a moot point and all,I was just raised to make plans for any contingency on most things to avoid problems and disappointment in the future."Poor planning provides poor performance" and all,you know?Maybe that's silly to some that live by the seat of their pants out there that I see in my country and are losing their ass now in this economy on a daily basis. Just the truth. That doesn't speak for everyone though. Edited April 19, 2013 by chris_lynx1989 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emehr Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Really?? Wow.LOL Yes. What is your point with all of this talk of how most Lynx owners are incapable of doing this upgrade? If you're trying to offer your services to perform this upgrade then just say so. Or start another thread. Otherwise, what's the point? What are you getting at? I think enough of us here have expressed interest in this project to make this worth candle's time and efforts to follow it through. So far, nobody has bemoaned the fact that this upgrade requires disassembling the Lynx and performing some minor surgery. You're making an issue out of nothing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I can also help with the upgrade. The cost would include return shipping plus a few dollars for my time to install the board and test it. A little more extra if you need me to cut a hole for external video port. But it is still early, the prototypes haven't been shipped yet and there may be a need to fix bugs that wasn't discovered yet plus the matter of wrong sized mounting holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
108 Stars Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Maybe that's silly to some that live by the seat of their pants out there Is this an insult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Is this an insult? In no such way,my good man.I just see it all around me in my hometown and country on a daily basis.And most don't seem to understand why they are going bankrupt or losing their car or house now.I'm 49 now and still afloat like a few others I know.Why?By being careful. Contingency planning for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 toolset required to fit this upgrade is: 1) screwdriver end of list okay, i'm a bit streching here truth is, you need two screwdrivers - philips size 2 and philips size 1... You forgot one more. If you have short finger nails (or by bad luck all of the fingers are bandaged), you'd need a thin flat screwdriver to pop the ribbon cable fastener open to remove the LCD cable. A guitar pick would work here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I whipped up the disassembly guide for future reference: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/211456-lynx-ii-disassembly-guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I whipped up the disassembly guide for future reference: http://atariage.com/...assembly-guide/ Thank you.I'm sure that will help others that haven't asked about it here before,like so many that did last year.Still taking a Lynx unit apart for stuff can be a pain,you just have to be patient and careful with all the screws at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
com64 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 If anyone lives anywhere near me (V7K2X5 or V8X1W2), I'll do it for them for free (granted they give me the board and an lcd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Jefferson Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Speaking as someone who has purchased a couple of Sebastian's creations for the Atari 8-bit computer over the years, his work is top notch, prices are reasonable (maybe too low for the effort he puts in?!?), shipping is reasonable and he always delivers on pre-orders. You may have to be patient, that is the only caution I would throw out there for those who aren't familiar with the way these pre-order projects work. It sounds like this upgrade is really going to be plug and play too, which is an added bonus. Edited April 20, 2013 by Shawn Jefferson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Subtlety is dead. Nah, but you can find it in some comic strips: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfman Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Nah, but you can find it in some comic strips: Hahhaha...a very good one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emehr Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Thread bump. Any news on progress? I'm really excited about this project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Last I heard he is putting together the proto and fixing a few flaws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emehr Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm curious to see how this will affect battery life. I always run my Lynx from either a wall adapter or the D-cell pack. The last time my Lynx saw AAs was in 1991. If this LCD upgrade helps boost battery life that would be fantastic. I may even start using AAs again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 CCFL does draw quite a bit, something like 100mA total when it's on. Replacing it with LCD that uses LED backlighting would drop the power consuption by quite a bit but the mod board might kill the saving. I can check when I get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 There are some power usage figures in the Lynx FAQ: Harry Dodgson (hdodgson@ford.com) shows Classic using 343 mA, versus 296 mA for the Lynx II. Also, about two-thirds of the Lynx power use is for the backlight screen alone, as using the Lynx II with the backlight off used only 97 mA. So even figuring very conservatively a doubling of battery run times should be realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 LED draw 20mA @ 20V at full brightness we have 5V to start with, so making 20mA 20V means we need to draw 100mA from 5V supply, add to this effeciency of converter so this is not so effective all in all the only advangtage you get when you put the brightness wheel a bit down currently, lynx with module runs at the same current as with original screen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Hell, I wouldn't care if it drew slightly more current than original and shaved an hour off battery life. I just want to play my lynx games on a more modern LCD The original screen was fun for a little nostalgia but wow.... my eyes are not as forgiving as they were when I was 8. Can't wait to see these go up for sale. I would rather have a Lynx with a decent LCD than a Nintendo DS any day. People whined about the Lynx library but there really was quite a few good games.... Lemmings, Rampart, Warbirds, Xenophobe, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfman Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) Hell, I wouldn't care if it drew slightly more current than original and shaved an hour off battery life. Why don´t you mod a NAKI powerpack? It´s still available on ebay, and NiCads are incredibly cheap nowadays. I get roughly 7 hours out of my modded 2400 mAh pack. Frankly I don´t care about the power draw - I always have an ac adaptor as a backup lying around. Edited May 11, 2013 by woolfman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) Why don´t you mod a NAKI powerpack? It´s still available on ebay, and NiCads are incredibly cheap nowadays. I get roughly 7 hours out of my modded 2400 mAh pack. Not a bad idea.... I actually thought about building an internal rechargable LiPo pack as the cells are pretty cheap now and stuffing it in the battery compartment with a jack for a charger. I have an adjustable regulator on a small PCB laying around to drop voltage from 3 LiPo cells down to 9V. Frankly I don´t care about the power draw - I always have an ac adaptor as a backup lying around. I don't have an original AC adapter but I grabbed a universal adapter from Radio Shack with an appropriate connector. Lighter and less scary than the original. The 9V *AC* adapters are an exception for me, replacements are tougher to find but modern DC power supplies usually don't take your equipment out when they fail. Now we are way off-topic so I'll stop here Edited May 11, 2013 by kogden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uzumaki Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I got a Playstation power pak by Hip Gear, it was originally designed for PSOne but with a cable adapter it can be used to run most other things. The battery pack uses a very heavy SLA (sealed lead acid) battery compared to the more common ni-cad of the day. Or try the newest batteries, the lipo (lithium polymer) it's being used in many of the modern devices and has a lot of watt-hours for the size compared to older rechargeable batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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