etownandy Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Has anyone experienced trouble with Plato via MESS? When I try to load the interpreter module, that's fine, but the moment I insert a disk, MESS crashes on my Mac. Win99 runs the same disk images fine under Windows 10. The "gromport" option is set to "single." I haven't tried EVERY Plato disk, but I have tried several - all of which give the same result Win99 v MESS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Let me check. What Plato disk causes the problem reproducibly? What MESS version do you use? Could you please run the emulator in a terminal window and tell me whether you get an error message on crashing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etownandy Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 Math Sentences in one Variable Disk 1 and Geometry Disk 4 are both doing it. I'll upload them here as soon as I figure out how. Using qmc2-sdlmess 0.50 on a Mac. Trying to get to the logs, but the exception viewer tells me it's a divide by 0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) I'd need the MAME/MESS version, not the QMC2 version. You should see it when you launch it without a system name, or you start it with "-help" as argument. I once fixed a related issue: http://www.ninerpedia.org/index.php?title=MESS_version_history (see 0.160) For that reason I have to make sure you are using a release that contains that fix already. Edited July 11, 2016 by mizapf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etownandy Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Sorry! I was using 155 (32 bit), but just upgraded to 161 (64 bit) and sure enough, the problem is gone. Thanks for the fix! Works like a champ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) Good news. But why don't you just upgrade to the latest release (0.175)? [Edit: I really recommend to upgrade to at least 0.174 because the system ROMs and cartridge ZIPs have changed at that point. There is no such thing as "let's keep some safety space from the newest release to make sure we get a stable one", because there is a continuous development, and bugs are fixed all over the time. Also, you could enjoy floppy drive sounds. Yes, I know, there are people who heavily dislike that - I still love it. You can turn off that sound, of course.] Edited July 14, 2016 by mizapf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etownandy Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 (edited) Mostly because I haven't figured out this combined mame/mess thing, yet. I still use separate front ends for the two (I do run qmcmame with the 175 executable). I get my builds here (http://mirrors.xmission.com/mame/mac/sdlmame/) and the last standalone MESS version is 161. Edited July 15, 2016 by etownandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Oh, I see ... But be assured, there's not really a problem with this combination. If you build MESS from sources, you can build for the subtarget MESS and you'll get the MESS-only part of MAME. If you take the full executable you won't have to change anything for starting up the emulation. You just have MAME and MESS in one executable, that's all. There won't be a separate MESS after 0.161. Maybe when you find some time you should just give it a try and run your emulations from the 0.175. Don't forget to go to WHTech and pick up the new system ROMs and cartridge ZIPs; this won't take more than a few minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etownandy Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 I'm more than willing to try again, but the QMC front end for MESS doesn't seem to like the 175 executable. As soon as I select it in the config and hit OK, the front end gives me "12:20:10.242: FATAL: couldn't determine emulator type and version " So I pretty much gave up at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 (edited) Sounds to me as if you need an update to QMC2. I can't tell, I'm not using QMC2, but I can check it for you. As I said, you may decide to continue with 0.161 for the time being, but there won't be any more updates. [Edit: Just tried, works for me. I installed the latest QMC2 (0.65) for MAME, and I can start up the TI console. As I said, you will need the new ROMs when it says that it cannot find them.] Edited July 16, 2016 by mizapf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Before Gazoo left us, I figured he would have stuffed all this into an UberCart. Ya gotta admit, that would be a cool application for that cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 There is an UberGROM image with Plato in it. . .Ckoba made it, and it is in the UberGROM thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-TI Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 There is an UberGROM image with Plato in it. . .Ckoba made it, and it is in the UberGROM thread. Really? I was only aware of his one with LOGO, LOGO II and Multiplan. Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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