David Alexander Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 That would be evil! Don't worry, it will not happen. The 5200 needs two pots for its 360 degrees of controller. The Inty controller has not pots and its mylar is limited to 16 directions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Don't worry, it will not happen. The 5200 needs two pots for its 360 degrees of controller. The Inty controller has not pots and its mylar is limited to 16 directions. Nah, I wouldn't do that. Despite my love for Intellivision, I don't hate the 5200 controller. It was an innovative idea that just could've been executed a little bit better - using more robust internal components and a self centering stick. Even so, with a rebuild it works very well. I like it better than the stock Colecovision controller. Sent from my Keyboard Component using Jack's Conversational Intelli-talk cassette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Can't wait to see what you come up with. I have a pair that were upgraded (Best Elec.), but having a pair that would self center, would be great! I could see those flying off the shelf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 For informational purposes, in case anyone is attempting the same... I just did a [best Electronics] "gold upgrade kit" on one of my 5200 controllers. First time working on one of these controllers, believe it or not. It isn't terribly difficult, but I encountered a problem I wasn't anticipating. On reassembly and testing (with Missile Command) - the reticle/cursor wouldn't go all the way to the right edge of the screen. So I figured I didn't align the hole/slot on the underside of the joystick with the plastic pin on the lower POT. But after multiple attempts, a messaging consultation with William Culver, and comparing it to another working controller, I knew it was reassembled correctly, and should have been working correctly, but it wasn't. For those who don't know... when you reassemble the controller, you need to have the stick perfectly centered, and the top POT pin at 9 o'clock, and the bottom POT pin at 6 o'clock. Mine were, but onscreen after reassembly, it still wouldn't go all the way to the right because the pin must have slipped on the POT shaft - most likely before I did anything, because I didn't test the range of movement on this controller before I did the upgrade. I should have. Basically the POT pins were in the correct position visually, but 6 o'clock on the bottom pin - which should be centered onscreen - was not centered onscreen. So by carefully rotating the position of the plastic pin on the metal POT shaft a little, and reassembling, all was well. For reference, in the picture below, I'm talking about the white plastic piece that sits on top of the metal POT shaft, and having to reposition where it sits on the shaft. Hope that makes sense. Bottom line - as been said here many times before - the gold upgrade buttons, keypad and flex circuit are a huge improvement! Highly recommended. Sent from my Keyboard Component using Jack's Conversational Intelli-talk cassette 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 For informational purposes, in case anyone is attempting the same... I just did a [best Electronics] "gold upgrade kit" on one of my 5200 controllers. First time working on one of these controllers, believe it or not. It isn't terribly difficult, but I encountered a problem I wasn't anticipating. On reassembly and testing (with Missile Command) - the reticle/cursor wouldn't go all the way to the right edge of the screen. So I figured I didn't align the hole/slot on the underside of the joystick with the plastic pin on the lower POT. But after multiple attempts, a messaging consultation with William Culver, and comparing it to another working controller, I knew it was reassembled correctly, and should have been working correctly, but it wasn't. For those who don't know... when you reassemble the controller, you need to have the stick perfectly centered, and the top POT pin at 9 o'clock, and the bottom POT pin at 6 o'clock. Mine were, but onscreen after reassembly, it still wouldn't go all the way to the right because the pin must have slipped on the POT shaft - most likely before I did anything, because I didn't test the range of movement on this controller before I did the upgrade. I should have. Basically the POT pins were in the correct position visually, but 6 o'clock on the bottom pin - which should be centered onscreen - was not centered onscreen. So by carefully rotating the position of the plastic pin on the metal POT shaft a little, and reassembling, all was well. For reference, in the picture below, I'm talking about the white plastic piece that sits on top of the metal POT shaft, and having to reposition where it sits on the shaft. Hope that makes sense. Bottom line - as been said here many times before - the gold upgrade buttons, keypad and flex circuit are a huge improvement! Highly recommended. Sent from my Keyboard Component using Jack's Conversational Intelli-talk cassette Thanks for the post Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevnaguy Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) For informational purposes, in case anyone is attempting the same... I just did a [best Electronics] "gold upgrade kit" on one of my 5200 controllers. First time working on one of these controllers, believe it or not. It isn't terribly difficult, but I encountered a problem I wasn't anticipating. On reassembly and testing (with Missile Command) - the reticle/cursor wouldn't go all the way to the right edge of the screen. So I figured I didn't align the hole/slot on the underside of the joystick with the plastic pin on the lower POT. But after multiple attempts, a messaging consultation with William Culver, and comparing it to another working controller, I knew it was reassembled correctly, and should have been working correctly, but it wasn't. For those who don't know... when you reassemble the controller, you need to have the stick perfectly centered, and the top POT pin at 9 o'clock, and the bottom POT pin at 6 o'clock. Mine were, but onscreen after reassembly, it still wouldn't go all the way to the right because the pin must have slipped on the POT shaft - most likely before I did anything, because I didn't test the range of movement on this controller before I did the upgrade. I should have. Basically the POT pins were in the correct position visually, but 6 o'clock on the bottom pin - which should be centered onscreen - was not centered onscreen. So by carefully rotating the position of the plastic pin on the metal POT shaft a little, and reassembling, all was well. For reference, in the picture below, I'm talking about the white plastic piece that sits on top of the metal POT shaft, and having to reposition where it sits on the shaft. Hope that makes sense. Bottom line - as been said here many times before - the gold upgrade buttons, keypad and flex circuit are a huge improvement! Highly recommended. Sent from my Keyboard Component using Jack's Conversational Intelli-talk cassette yep, thats what I said at the end, center the pots onscreen then physically move the arms to the correct positions Edited February 18, 2018 by thevnaguy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 Sebastian M. Kotek is coming out with his own Atari 5200 Flashcart. He says "all 5200 cart bank switch modes, up to 192kB ROM size, USB firmware update feature" He also shared a link to his Atari 5200 Robbo game hoping it will help others port Atari XL/XE games to the 5200 https://github.com/tdididit/a52-robbo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted February 18, 2018 Author Share Posted February 18, 2018 yep, thats what I said at the end, center the pots onscreen then physically move the arms to the correct positions Willie do you have a specific video that shows you centering the pots before putting back the controller together? If so please post the link here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevnaguy Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Willie do you have a specific video that shows you centering the pots before putting back the controller together? If so please post the link here no. but i need to recenter the pots on a controller i have so can do one unless your cohost steve has not done one yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 no. but i need to recenter the pots on a controller i have so can do one unless your cohost steve has not done one yet? Hi, No Steve has not done a video where he takes apart the 5200 controller so if you have the time please go ahead and make the video. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Introducing a new way to play Atari 5200 Tempest: Rotary controller retrofit of the Trakball Vid#18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Retrofit of Atari 5200 Trakball- Rotary Controller conversion (& it's easily reversible!) vid#19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 In '83, Atari Age Club members could have purchased the Atari 5200 Power Package. I guess membership had its privileges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I've decided to fire up the DeLorean, and pick up that case! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Found another nugget in the Sept/Oct '82 (Volume 1 No.3) issue of Atari Age magazine. The Sneak Peeks section (page 8 ) mentions an Atari 5200 Voice Synthesizer Module. Wonder if anyone has ever come across an actual prototype or a schematic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 I've decided to fire up the DeLorean, and pick up that case! make sure you pick up a few extra's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5200Fanatic Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Found another nugget in the Sept/Oct '82 (Volume 1 No.3) issue of Atari Age magazine. The Sneak Peeks section (page 8 ) mentions an Atari 5200 Voice Synthesizer Module. Wonder if anyone has ever come across an actual prototype or a schematic? AA V1 No3.jpg 5200 Voice Synth.png Never saw it but there are some games that had speech anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Never saw it but there are some games that had speech anyway. This is just my curiosity getting the best of me. I was just hoping that someone might have a picture, rendering or schematic of the device. I love the look of the 5200 and would like to see what this device would have looked like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Glad they scrapped it. Imagine Otto with primitive voice synthesis as opposed to recorded sample. "EEEN-TRUDER AYYY-LERT" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Atari 5200: Making a Better Controller with Ben Heck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 At the end of the video, he wonders aloud if anyone would want to purchase a controller. I know I would! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 At the end of the video, he wonders aloud if anyone would want to purchase a controller. I know I would! Maybe if we post enough interest in the comment section of the video someone would make and sell these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Alexander Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 New & Innovative Analog Controls Mod For Your Atari 5200 using Atari Paddles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sramirez2008 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Maybe if we post enough interest in the comment section of the video someone would make and sell these Great idea. I left him my feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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