darthkur Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Any Gorf news? The answer was no. There will be no more Gorf CD's/Carts for the Jaguar. I'll let someone else go into the details. How long before we start seeing pirated copies of this showing up? Very soon hopefully. I'll be in line for one without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Any Gorf news? The answer was no. There will be no more Gorf CD's/Carts for the Jaguar. I'll let someone else go into the details. How long before we start seeing pirated copies of this showing up? Very soon hopefully. I'll be in line for one without a doubt. If you want to talk about pirating homebrew games, please go do it outside of AtariAge. Thanks, ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjk7382 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I might be selling my original with with the paper that came with it on ebay soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Any Gorf news? The answer was no. There will be no more Gorf CD's/Carts for the Jaguar. I'll let someone else go into the details. How long before we start seeing pirated copies of this showing up? hopefully we wont!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Is it me, or is this just getting ridiculous? We have a homebrew cart that is a port of someone else's copyrighted work, without any approval to sell it from the official channel. Yet it would seem to be absolute blasphemy to make copies of it on CD to distribute it for free. There seem to be a bit of "No you can't have a port of an old arcade game on Jaguar. Not Yours" going on as well. I take it open sourcing it or releasing it via GPL would be blasphemy, cutting into profits? Seems like this game was never meant to be played by the masses from the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Is it me, or is this just getting ridiculous? We have a homebrew cart that is a port of someone else's copyrighted work, without any approval to sell it from the official channel. Yet it would seem to be absolute blasphemy to make copies of it on CD to distribute it for free. There seem to be a bit of "No you can't have a port of an old arcade game on Jaguar. Not Yours" going on as well. I take it open sourcing it or releasing it via GPL would be blasphemy, cutting into profits? Seems like this game was never meant to be played by the masses from the beginning. it was meant to be played by the masses,but unfortunately it didnt work out that way........distribution of unauthorized work is not allowed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_J64bit Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) RRR, There be 's! With the therat of 's Midway is not going to released Gorf on the Jag all thanks to all the 's and theres nothing that Gorf can do it! Edited October 13, 2007 by walter_J64bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Any Gorf news? The answer was no. There will be no more Gorf CD's/Carts for the Jaguar. I'll let someone else go into the details. How long before we start seeing pirated copies of this showing up? Very soon hopefully. I'll be in line for one without a doubt. If you want to talk about pirating homebrew games, please go do it outside of AtariAge. Thanks, ..Al Appreciated, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Is it me, or is this just getting ridiculous? We have a homebrew cart that is a port of someone else's copyrighted work, without any approval to sell it from the official channel. Yet it would seem to be absolute blasphemy to make copies of it on CD to distribute it for free. There seem to be a bit of "No you can't have a port of an old arcade game on Jaguar. Not Yours" going on as well. I take it open sourcing it or releasing it via GPL would be blasphemy, cutting into profits? Seems like this game was never meant to be played by the masses from the beginning. Here is a little bit more accurate history for you. Jamie Fenton, who at the time was my official channel. The standard Midway contract was for 20 years and the rights reverted to the coder. Jamie did give me a quit claim which allows me the right to use her game without any legal repercusions. I figured I was fine. It was pointed out otherwise and I immediately removed the product from sale. I then sought after Midway and Dave Nutting to find out if they would be fine with it. I then decided if I do it for charity I'd have a better chance of convincing these guys. This was right after a dear friend of mine died from a lung transplant a year and a half later. He needed the transplant because he had Cystic Fibrosis and uncurable decease. The rejection took him in Febuary of this year. I explained this to a very great guy at Midway, told him about the fact we had released it thinking we were ok and he and Midway were very understanding and realized we were'nt trying to screw anyone. Midway was great and was willing to help me all the way but they also wanted to be sure I could protect the IP and keep it from getting copied. Im not taking that chance in this community....sorry. If I find a way and can still get Midway's blessing you can bet it will happen again.....I dont have such a solution for CD's....yet. Only Jamie gets a cart though and that is the decision the 3 of us in 3DSSS made along time ago. Gorf was intended to be sold as long as there was demand for it so please stop postin highly inaccurate information. I'd appreaciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 To add to that for history and possible interests sake.... Midway would have been able to help me with the Namco and Taito parts of the licensing because they were pretty sure they had such right perpetually for home versions on the Gorf title. The only last hurdle would have been finding where Dave Nutting was. I still cant find him but I do have a mailing address. The other last detail is I still do not know exactly how the rights spilt up between these three if at all. Obviously Midway is not going to tell me such things if they did not have to. Just thought I'd let you know that not EVERYTHING was perfectly in place but a letter to Dave could have been all I needed. I may just write that letter anyhow and see how he feels, if indeed he is still reachable there, just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Any Gorf news? The answer was no. There will be no more Gorf CD's/Carts for the Jaguar. I'll let someone else go into the details. How long before we start seeing pirated copies of this showing up? Very soon hopefully. I'll be in line for one without a doubt. I will be watching the both of you as well as others....dont be stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygrailvideogames.com Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 Any Gorf news? The answer was no. There will be no more Gorf CD's/Carts for the Jaguar. I'll let someone else go into the details. How long before we start seeing pirated copies of this showing up? Very soon hopefully. I'll be in line for one without a doubt. I will be watching the both of you as well as others....dont be stupid. I do not sell nor do I distribute pirated software. The only point that I was trying to make is often when an item is no longer available it will become available through an underground market. There are plenty of pirated Atari Jaguar CD software out there already. I was not encouraging this it is just a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika73 Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 Still looking.. Long live the Gorf empire (Come on.. Give my copy so I can shoot them down... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika73 Posted January 19, 2008 Author Share Posted January 19, 2008 Its been two months and we moved to year 2008. Any Gorf news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mika73 Posted April 5, 2008 Author Share Posted April 5, 2008 Still nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sargon Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 I don't even own a Jaguar CD system, but I still find myself monitoring this thread daily. I hope this can be released again someday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyBuddies Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I don't even own a Jaguar CD system, but I still find myself monitoring this thread daily. I hope this can be released again someday! a few copies were recently ebayed.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sargon Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I don't even own a Jaguar CD system, but I still find myself monitoring this thread daily. I hope this can be released again someday! a few copies were recently ebayed.... I can't possibly justify spending eBay prices on Gorf, considering that the latest copy sold for $455. I guess my only hope is for an official re-release at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 $455? Wow!! It is a good game. Jamie Fenton, who at the time was my official channel. The standard Midwaycontract was for 20 years and the rights reverted to the coder. Jamie did give me a quit claim which allows me the right to use her game without any legal repercusions. I figured I was fine. Honestly if I were in your shoes I would have thought the same thing. I have dealt with Atari 8-bit game writers and have tried to work out permissions. I think you did good to contact like you did. It can just be soo complex with some companies. You know, you probably could have called it "DAOT", changed the characters slightly, left everything else the same, and gave a nod to the programmer of "GORF" in the credits and no one probably would have cared. (Instead of "Laser Attack" it becomes "Death Beam Attack".) (Or my favorite from the 30's Flash Gordon series "Destructo Beam Attack") It's that "GORF" name. You're fighting for a four letter word. But have to admit, seeing "GORF" for the Jaguar is just cool. (My current goal, to get a straight answer on who owns Bubsy Bobcat... man THAT has been fun...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorf Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 (edited) The other part of the problem is that they(Midway) wanted the source code and I was not about to give that up. You should all just forget Jaguar Gorf unless Midway releases it. Even if they called me today I would stil not release it. Im tired of charging $35 dollars for something I could have charge a lot more, only to see a bunch of slimeballs profit off of it. The Jaguar is about to lose a developer for good....3DSSS. We all three are quite tired of the BS. Edited April 28, 2008 by Gorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 (edited) I can't possibly justify spending eBay prices on Gorf, considering that the latest copy sold for $455. $455! HOLY CRAP BATMAN! Overall this kind of stuff is really disheartening for devs Doubly so in this case where Gorf specifically asked people not to resell for more than they paid. Yeah yeah I know it's a capitalistic society, owners rights, secondary markets, blah, blah. But it's sad when even in such a small community people can't respect the wishes of the devs. Edited April 28, 2008 by remowilliams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I also had a small part in the bidding for this game, I could not go higher than $160 If I had the money I would bid more, but I'm just a factory worker who loves his Jaguar and has only his dreams to get his games collection complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 The other part of the problem is that they(Midway) wanted the source code and I was not about togive that up. You should all just forget Jaguar Gorf unless Midway releases it. Even if they called me today I would stil not release it. Im tired of charging $35 dollars for something I could have charge a lot more, only to see a bunch of slimeballs profit off of it. The Jaguar is about to lose a developer for good....3DSSS. We all three are quite tired of the BS. 1. What was the issue with giving up the source code? 2. " Im tired of charging $35 dollars for something I could have charge a lot more, only to see a bunch of slimeballs profit off of it." Isn't that a bit self-contradictory? What would you have optimally charged for a port of a not-too-famous arcade game on an unsuccessful, old console? If you were passionate about making games for the jaguar, you should have gone the route of an original game, not a game idea & name that is already been done & copyrighted. Of course, I doubt Midway has the Atari Jaguar high on its priority list to sell games for, considering its 2008. For everyone needing their GORF fix, there's always MAME + the ROM itself. Price: free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonner242 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I also had a small part in the bidding for this game, I could not go higher than $160If I had the money I would bid more, but I'm just a factory worker who loves his Jaguar and has only his dreams to get his games collection complete. ! was bidding with you! I stop around the same price! Good War! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Climber Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 The other part of the problem is that they(Midway) wanted the source code and I was not about togive that up. You should all just forget Jaguar Gorf unless Midway releases it. Even if they called me today I would stil not release it. Im tired of charging $35 dollars for something I could have charge a lot more, only to see a bunch of slimeballs profit off of it. The Jaguar is about to lose a developer for good....3DSSS. We all three are quite tired of the BS. 1. What was the issue with giving up the source code? 2. " Im tired of charging $35 dollars for something I could have charge a lot more, only to see a bunch of slimeballs profit off of it." Isn't that a bit self-contradictory? What would you have optimally charged for a port of a not-too-famous arcade game on an unsuccessful, old console? If you were passionate about making games for the jaguar, you should have gone the route of an original game, not a game idea & name that is already been done & copyrighted. Of course, I doubt Midway has the Atari Jaguar high on its priority list to sell games for, considering its 2008. For everyone needing their GORF fix, there's always MAME + the ROM itself. Price: free. I couldn't agree with you more, this kind of BS makes me lose interest in the game completly, what was once a cool little Jag project that I would have liked to try out someday is now a game I will go out of my way to avoid. It's just a joke to me that this is being taken so seriously, it's a port of GORF for Christ's sake, it's not like some totally new innovative creation here, give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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