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#1 carmel_andrews OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:40 AM

I know it's probably naughty of me asking this...seeming as though there's quite a few programmers here (who don't want their s/w hacked)

Like the subject say's...Who was your fave. pirate/cracker

these are the ones i remember

Mr. Bacardi (i think he came from germany)
Spite, SSMB, John E, Alias Maximus (and probably Others) from AURA
Steve Zipp
Mole eater (I think he was from London)
And the legend that is ROB C (or what not was to ST/E fanboys)


BTW...Boot menu's were the beez kneez

Edited by carmel_andrews, Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:42 AM.


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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:47 AM

Glen 5200
SSMB

but can not remember a lot as imho there was not a real "cracker" scene in terms of putting "Intros".

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:49 AM

I had a lot of Rob C's stuff :D

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:51 AM

I have zero idea.. I just know sometimes a screen would come on when launching my Apple 2 games that said it was cracked. But I payed no attention :P

Edited by NE146, Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:51 AM.


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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:01 AM

For some reason, most 8-bit Atari cracked stuff didn't have intros or even a text displaying the cracker/group.

I guess Glenn the 5200 man was pretty well known - a lot of people would have been grateful for his releases.

I also remember the games modded with cheats, such as Bruce Lee with Immortal/Normal. But I'm not sure it had a name/group on it.

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:14 AM

That's why those crack group's went to the ST...some of the menu's i've seen recently were damned good (whilst i did own an st/e back in the day, i wasn't mucho into it)

Sorry, forgot about Glenn/5200 man (i did have a few of his offerings)

Also someone called 'wizard'

John Sosta (who did a hack of (Omnimon) and later teamed up with Futureware (Sidewinder)

Is/Was Mike Langer (Mr Homesoft) a recent addition to the hacking fraternity....or was he well known way back when (perhaps our european friends can answer that one)

And one for our polish friends...How 'prolific' were/are Gumi and Krawco

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:26 AM

I think the "scene" and demos in general were much more European centred back in the 80/90s.

And, probably most of the software I "aquired" at the time probably came directly from the US.

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:35 AM

Fairlight c64/amiga

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:37 AM

For some reason, most 8-bit Atari cracked stuff didn't have intros or even a text displaying the cracker/group.

Yes, almost every C64 game on the net has an intro and almost every Atari game doesn't have an intro!

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:38 AM

Hmm, funny topic. :ahoy:

It's true that a lot of A8 cracked software didn't have intros, but I do remember some groups did like Piratec and Heist Brothers/Heist Network (look at AR:Dungeon for an example; use slow SIO if in emulator--IIRC, the Dungeon release even had a character resurrector on disk 1/side 2). :pirate:

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:49 AM

Yes, the Dungeon had a nice intro integrated into the loader.

Funny thing - I tried to crack The Dungeon. It even had a sector with some text, to the effect of "Crackers: put your message here if you are able to copy this game and get it to work".

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:59 AM

I had an original copy of AR:Dungeon and I remember seeing that. IIRC, I believe it said "Ahoy, pirates: Change this byte from 0 to 1" or some such. So, out of curiosity I did that and it changed the into loader text message to one that looked like a cracking group had done it and the message along the lines of 'pirating software will kill development on the Atari, have a nice day' or somesuch. Of course, that didn't stop AR:Dungeon (or any of software that followed it for that matter) from being pirated. ;)

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:28 AM

1987, went to UK with my A8 and C64, didn't have much cracked softs. i started to work for some firm in the UK, and one of the guys was a C64/fdd user. I said i was too, and he invited me round, saying we'd do some swaps. i said sure, i come round one evening, but man, in his room he had three 100-disk holders stuffed full with cracked C64 software, there must have been more than 100 disks in each box, I mean those boxes were overflowing, and on each disk like 2 or 3 or more titles, sid tunes, graphics, utilities etc...the lot. he just said to me, help yourself, take what you need, and bring it back when you copied them. I TOOK ALL THREE disk boxes back to my place. following day i went shopping for the cheapest blank disks I could find, and for the next week i was copying software to the hilt. good times.
Still got most of those disks packed up in the attic nowadays, but i cannot remember the names of the cracker teams. they did have nice intros, but soon intros got frowned upon, like...do we really need another 100KB scrolling text message in badly written English?.....

Edited by thomasholzer, Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:35 AM.


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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:31 PM

I sorta know a guy who used to supply Glenn the 5200 man and Steve and Bruce with many of their games to crack. He had a local Computer/Video Rental shop and dealt heavily in pirated stuff. It would be interesting to talk to him and ask some questions about that stuff sometime.

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:41 PM

I remember some of the disks I had were cracked by Kilroy, of N.A.P.O.

I think I had Goonies, and a few others that had that intro. With Infinite lives, etc.

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Posted Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:46 PM

Kilroy

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Posted Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:26 AM

ah, NAPO... National American Priate Organisation? I think World Championship Karate had this signature as well... But I was dissappointed as he used Antic 4 for text with system font ;)

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Posted Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:25 AM

Mr. Bacardi (it's right he comes from Germany and he is - more or less - still active)

SSMB (4 Guys from Hamburg/Germany, I know the "M" quite well - and he is a member of this board)

Homesoft (Fantastic his compilations.... I miss his BASIC compilations...can anybody help?)

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Posted Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:15 PM

kilroy NAPO, Piratec... these are the ones I remember mainly. I guess being in North America we had different crackers. The local pirate guy here had a connection with someone in the UK and would get menu disks with all the new stuff. We copied that like stuff like crazy. He had two happy drives so would make pretty fast copies of stuff. At one point he even had a photocopy machine and we copied the dox too. :)

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Posted Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:13 PM

Yeah - kilroy is the one I remember most from back then. Few from Glenn the 5200 man.

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Posted Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:05 AM

1987, went to UK with my A8 and C64, didn't have much cracked softs. i started to work for some firm in the UK, and one of the guys was a C64/fdd user. I said i was too, and he invited me round, saying we'd do some swaps. i said sure, i come round one evening, but man, in his room he had three 100-disk holders stuffed full with cracked C64 software, there must have been more than 100 disks in each box, I mean those boxes were overflowing, and on each disk like 2 or 3 or more titles, sid tunes, graphics, utilities etc...the lot. he just said to me, help yourself, take what you need, and bring it back when you copied them. I TOOK ALL THREE disk boxes back to my place. following day i went shopping for the cheapest blank disks I could find, and for the next week i was copying software to the hilt. good times.
Still got most of those disks packed up in the attic nowadays, but i cannot remember the names of the cracker teams. they did have nice intros, but soon intros got frowned upon, like...do we really need another 100KB scrolling text message in badly written English?.....


C-64 for me seems like just about everything I had was cracked by EagleSoft
A-8bit - Glenn the 5200 man

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Posted Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:37 AM

Hacking commercial quality ML proggies, i can understand but cracking/hacking a magazine type in listing...have a laugh (i've just seen some in emulator format on my pc at home...I think wizard and the legendary rob c and one or two others were the culprits)

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Posted Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:00 PM

StarpySoft, Zigfum
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Posted Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:01 PM

Mine was the guy that lived up the road... I'd buy a game he didn't have, take it up to him, and then watch him crack it with a combo of Mac/65 and Allen Macroware's DiskWiz-II (unscrambled DiskWiz-II, by the way), then give me a copy of a game I didn't have and possibly even the crack he just did as well... It was kind of cool... Learned a lot of neat Atari tricks from that guy

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Posted Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:55 PM

I liked the releases by Kilroy/NAPO because they often included a trainer option on the boot screen.

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