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More info. None recent though.

 

http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/v...eloperId,52278/

 

http://www.davidlubar.com/mygames.html

 

Carol Shaw I met her when I was working for Activision. Her algorithm for creating the landscape in River Raid is one of the most elegant pieces of programming I ever saw. Side note -- her brother Steve did the Apple version of Deluxe Paint for Electronic Arts.

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Interesting.... so, has no one heard or seen her since the Big video game crash of the early 80s? She keep a low profile these days?

She was on Stella at 20 volume two.

 

Generally, yes. I know someone who has contacted her in the last year or so regarding an interview on River Raid but she declined.

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Carol Shaw I met her when I was working for Activision. Her algorithm for creating the landscape in River Raid is one of the most elegant pieces of programming I ever saw. Side note -- her brother Steve did the Apple version of Deluxe Paint for Electronic Arts.

What did you do there? What did she look like? What was her personality like? Uptight librarian, slutty hippie, nose in the air know-it-all, down-to-earth normal person?

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Carol Shaw I met her when I was working for Activision. Her algorithm for creating the landscape in River Raid is one of the most elegant pieces of programming I ever saw. Side note -- her brother Steve did the Apple version of Deluxe Paint for Electronic Arts.

What did you do there? What did she look like? What was her personality like? Uptight librarian, slutty hippie, nose in the air know-it-all, down-to-earth normal person?

I think he was quoting David Lubar there. Moycon only wishes he worked at Activision (as do we all).

 

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Did she get a sex change?..no that was one of the Kitchen bothers,IIRC.

 

I thought it was the author of M.U.L.E. (Dan/Dani Bunton, IIRC)?

There's something about game design that makes people want to wear a dress:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Bunten_Berry

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Heineman

 

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...ost&p=47708

 

 

Maybe doing anything can make you want to wear a dress:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transgender_people

 

If you want to keep your winkie, it's probably best to stay home and avoid any creative activities.

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Did she get a sex change?..no that was one of the Kitchen bothers,IIRC.

 

I thought it was the author of M.U.L.E. (Dan/Dani Bunton, IIRC)?

There's something about game design that makes people want to wear a dress:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Bunten_Berry

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebecca_Heineman

 

http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...ost&p=47708

 

 

Maybe doing anything can make you want to wear a dress:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transgender_people

 

If you want to keep your winkie, it's probably best to stay home and avoid any creative activities.

 

Oddly enough, we had a discussion about this at Seans party. We came up with 5 people:

 

Dan Bunten

Bill Heineman

William Mataga

Steve Kitchen

Jay Fenton

 

There may be another Atari person, but we couldn't recall the name. Still, five is a lot considering they're all game programmers. Must be something in the water... :)

 

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BTW, Carol shaw used to have the domain www.carol.com. I suppose that was too lucrative a domain to hang on to, because it's obviously not owned by her anymore, but while it was up she used to put info about what she was working on, and you could email her at carol@carol.com.

 

I mean no disrespect, but she's clearly a textbook geek with limited interpersonal skills. She's fully aware of that, which is why, while she's by no means antisocial, she is definitely camera shy. It took a lot of coaxing to get her to appear in Stella at 20, a lot of help from her peers to complete the segment on her games, and a lot of careful editing to try to present her in the best possible light.

 

BTW, I found Doug Neubauer quite similar to Carol, but a bit more capable of being interviewed. His memory of the Atari days was surprisingly spotty. He was really not what I expected him to be at all. He talked about his games in a very layman-like or anthropomorphic way. He's pointing to the football players in Super Football like he's watching reptiles run around in a terrarium saying "and then the guys kinda run down here but they REALLY want to go this way to avoid the flicker". I was expecting him to think of his games in a more clinical, technical fashion. I guess he's more of the quintessential hacker than a cold and calculating coding genius.

 

By and large the programmers who have done interviews and shown up at the conventions are the only ones you'd really want to hear from. Not everybody can be the life of the party like, let's say, a Eugene Jarvis.

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I hope i didnt slander anyone,but since when is a sex change a crime?its so accepted now,and any other ALTERNATIVE lifestyle,which is cool,live and let live right :),anyway, I swear to god i read that a well known classic game programmer had a sex change from man to woman,and that it was one of the Kitchen bros,i might be wrong,but im about 80% sure,Can someone verify?There were quite a few game designers who had an alternative lifestyle,and quite a few who had sex changes,just interested to know.Dont laugh,i think there might be a shred of truth to this supposed MYTH that game designing attracted alot of alternative lifestyle folks for some reason.

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