Just added 1986 Star Raiders box thanks to Chris Sly via Atarimania.
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Posted Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:25 PM
Just added 1986 Star Raiders box thanks to Chris Sly via Atarimania.
Posted Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:46 AM
I just wanted to give an update on things. I've been working hours every day on the site. Been doing the boxes only at this time. When all the Atari boxes are complete, I'm going to update the pdf file of the giant list. It won't be totally up to date, but at least it will have better accuracy than what it shows now. I decided to get rid of the MS Word document. I guess if anyone wants it, they can contact me.
What I decided to do was become totally accurate with the scans. I am not listing anything based on rumor anymore. If it exists, you'll either see the scan, or if I don't have a scan, there will be the black "no box image available" in its place. This means I've verified the existence of this variant, but the picture/scan I saw is no good to show. There are some scans that are based on photos. These are sort of good, but if anyone can provide me with nice flat scans instead, that would be great.
I anticipate within the next 3 days to have finished all the Atari made boxes. I am then going to post the entire list of either scans I need that exist, or list boxes I think should exist based on having cartridges put out those same years. You can refer to the actual title box page to see if the item exists or if I'm guessing it should. The list will be rather long, my guess at least 75 boxes. To think with all the years I've been doing this and all the help I've gotten, there are still this many variations probably still out there that no one has documented.
Posted Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:23 AM
Something occurred to me last night when looking at Stargate and Defender II. This is probably more of a reason to document when boxes were printed, as this will give a good idea on when a specific variation came out. Stargate had been on the market for 4 years and was still produced in the US in 1987. Defender II according to Atarimania documentation had a 1987 PAL release, but didn't put out an NTSC version until 1988. That should mean that Defender II came out in the foreign market before the US. The only reason I can think this, was possibly a good stock of Stargate was still sitting in Atari warehouses in the US and they wanted these to get absorbed into the market before putting out the new title.
Putting the printer date on PAL releases is also important for the fact that it gives an indication how long after the US release was it available for foreign markets in PAL format. Since I don't have much access to PAL boxes, I couldn't take on this task with my site. But it may be a suggestion to use both my site with all the printers/dates in conjunction with another site, maybe Atariboxed who may be willing to put info like this so people can see and compare all the information.
I've been told by several people that all the work I'm doing is not really appreciated by the community. I posted another thread giving my opinion on sites like mine and actually no one responded. It's possible that few people do appreciate or use my site. But that doesn't stop me from working on it. I love doing this. My wife gets mad sometimes because I'm spending so many hours doing so. But again, I LOVE doing this. I find it so interesting about all this information that I'm willing to go outside and sit in a store and open flaps just to check and add all this info. So hopefully you get something out of my site. Just the fact I'm listing all these variations on one easy page has helped collectors learn and then try to acquire these variations.
I'll be posting the list of all needed scans and asking about boxes in existence in a few days. Hopefully there are some of you out there who are going to help me out. I'm also going to detail about the printer flaps after I'm done with the boxes. I'll probably need to create a separate page for them as I want to show any and all type of flap so anyone can learn how to read and identify the printers and dates.
Edited by Philflound, Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:24 AM.
Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:46 AM
Ok, I'm pretty much done updating all the boxes for the Atari made games. I've added loads of new variations that I found. I need to incorporate a few of the Pak no frills generic white boxes on some of the titles, which I'll do tomorrow. When that is finished, I will post the entire list of boxes that I need scans for or I think should exist. I'll explain that when I post the list.
Posted Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:54 PM
Ok, here is the list of box scans I need for Atari made games. Anything that has been confirmed to exist, when you go on the page for the boxes of a specific title, you will see the black box that says "no box image available". This means that I have seen a scan or photo of this box variation, but it wasn't usable. If there is no listing for the variations at all, it means that there probably should be a variant for that specific year, but I have found no evidence for it. So unless there is the black place holder photo, anything listed below is an educated guess.
Adventure 1986, 1987
Alpha Beam with Ernie 1986 (other Sesame Street titles have 1986 releases)
Backgammon 1986 (grey box?)
Basic Programming no frills generic box from Back to School Pak
Big Bird 1986
Black Jack 1986 grey box
Brain Games no frills generic box from Back to School Pak
Breakout no frills generic box from Action Pak
Canyon Bomber 1986
Centipede Red Box, 1985, and 1986
Cookie Monster 1986 (other Sesame Street titles have 1986)
Crossbow 1987 Printed in China/Made in Hong Kong
Desert Falcon 1987 Printed in Taiwan, 1987 Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China
Dig Dug 1985, 1986
Dodge 'Em no frills generic box from Action Pak
Donkey Kong 1987 Printed in Taiwan
Donkey Kong Jr 1987 Printed in Taiwan
ET 1986 Printed in Taiwan
Galaxian 1987 Made in China
Golf 1986 grey box
Gremlins 1984 Made in Taiwan sticker
Haunted House 1986
Indy 500 no frills generic box from Racing Pak
Joust 1985, 1986, 1987
Jungle Hunt 1985
Kangaroo 1985, 1986
Math Gran Prix 1986
Maze Craze 1986 grey box
Midnight Magic 1987 sticker Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China
Millipede 1984 8 languages Made in Taiwan; 1987 red box Made in Hong Kong?; 1987 red box Made in Taiwan/Printed in Taiwan
Missile Command 1985, 1986, 1991
Mouse Trap 1987
Ms Pac-Man 1985, 1987 Made in Hong Kong
Night Driver 1986 grey, 1987?
Oscar's Trash Race 1983 Made in USA, 1986
Outlaw 1985, 1986 grey box
Pengo 1986, 1987
Phoenix 1985, 1987
Pigs in Space 1986
Pole Position 1982 6 languages "warranty" sticker; 1987 Made in Hong Kong; 1988 red box Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China
Raiders of the Lost Ark 1986
Realsports Baseball 1986, 1987
Realsports Football 1986
Realsports Soccer 1986; 1988 red box Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China
Realsports Tennis 1986 Made in Taiwan; 1987 Printed in Hong Kong
Realsports Volleyball 1988 red box Printed in Hong Kong/Made in China
Space War 1986
Star Raiders 1987
Street Racer 1986
Super Breakout 1988 Made in Hong Kong
Swordquest Earthworl 1987
Swordquest Fireworkd 1986
Video Olympics 1978 white warranty with date inside glued flap style box; 1986
Yars Revenge 1986, 1988
Also, can anyone tell me about the "Video Game Program" boxes in this listing? The orange I think is the Indy 500 box we have on the site. I'm assuming the other 3 were part of the original 9 released in this type of box. I asked the seller if he could let me know, but haven't heard back. I don't know who the buyer was, but if I wasn't currently unemployed, it would have been me. I'm assuming the yellow is Video Olympics, the green is Black Jack, and the red is either Combat or Air Sea Battle.
Edited by Philflound, Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:55 PM.
Posted Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:12 PM
Just got the 1986 Backgammon box. This one seems to have eluded everyone as I've never seen one and could never get a scan. Rumor had it was a grey box. One I picked up is brown and looks like the original release. I also picked up the 1987 Realsports Baseball Printed in Hong Kong box. Backgammon is already live on its page. BB will be up by tomorrow.
Posted Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:54 PM
I recently picked up some complete games from later releases and noticed that the printer and date on the box seem to correspond with the printer / date on the instruction manual. This may be a great way to match exact boxes with their respective manuals for those who want to keep things together. I'm talking about of course if you have a box without a manual or vice versa. If you visit Atarimania, you can see which cart belongs with which box. This should work for 1985-up releases for silver,grey, and red labels/boxes.
Indy 500 Ninety Day Warranty is confirmed. I have also found 2 new Superman variations with the white warranty boxes copyright inside and outside. Ms Pac-Man 1987 Printed in Hong Kong / Made in China has also been confirmed. I'm trying to confirm an Off the Wall box variation.
Discovered Apollo, Data Age and Epyx also have printers and printed dates on their boxes. I'll be adding those too. Added some more info for Activision and Coleco boxes pertaining to printers.
Posted Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:05 PM
Added 1986 grey Black Jack box scans thanks to Atari181
Posted Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:12 AM
Just wanted to give an update. I'm fixing the list since the one on the site is very outdated and missing info. I'll be updating it soon, though it may not have all the new info on there. It will have most of the items that are shown on the site and hopefully by the end of the weekend, I can double check everything to make sure it's totally accurate. I'll post when I'm confident that I'm "finished" with everything shown vs everything on the list. I'll then get back to adding the rest of the 3rd party companies. I'm hoping to have this done by the end of the summer.
I went back and did a search on the forums as to when I actually started this site. I ran across the thread that discussed when I began modifying the list back in 10/04. Almost 11 years since I took on this monumental task. The site went live on 1/09, though I had been accumulating scans for at least a year prior. So I've been working on photos for over 7 years.
I may make a page linking from the Atari 2600 main page that has a list of all missing scans. This way I don't have to keep posting a long list here. So far I only put the Atari boxes I'm missing, but the list will include all carts and manuals when I finally get to those, and also all 3rd party items.
Posted Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:38 PM
The giant list is now live again. It's easy to access from the Atari 2600 home page. I put only a pdf file. It loads in about 10 seconds or so on my computer and my internet isn't the fastest anymore. I'm pretty sure the info is at least 95% accurate, but I'm going through line by line over the next few days to make sure that whatever is in the document corresponds to whatever is shown in the photos. I want no discrepancies. I'll reply again in a few days when I'm confident that all is kosher. If after that, you see any errors, please let me know. Everything should be aligned correctly as I went through each line to make sure columns were straight and such. The only issue I still have is Bachelor Party where the product number won't line up under the title Model #. I've tried to fix this several times in different ways, but it won't move over for some reason. Once I'm done double checking all my listings, I may go back and try to fix this again. As promised, I'll be moving on to the other 3rd party software companies I have yet to complete. Lots of work ahead. We've come a long way.
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