UNIXcoffee928 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I've been experimenting with the 1400XL emulation in the most recent version of atari800. I was able to get the 1400XL system to boot with the -1400 switch and the correct 1400 ROM. Works, can boot to BASIC. The emulation allows for the use of the V: device for speech synthesis. Can someone post some short BASIC code examples of how to use the V: device? Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 No idea. Could it be as simple as something like: OPEN #1,8,0,"V:" ? #1;"AH" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry_m Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 10 OPEN #4,8,0,"V:PF" 20 ? #4;"GREETINGS PROE-FESOR FAAL KE-EN .." 25 ? #4;"E-EGGSELENT." 30 ? #4;"ITS BEEN AE LAANG TIEM.." 35 ? #4;"KAYN YOO EGSPLAEN THEE REEMOOVUL UV YOR YOOSER UKOUNT" 36 ? #4;"AAN JOON TWENTEE THHERERD, 9-TEEN 7-TEE-THHREEEE.." 40 ? #4;"SHAAL WEE PLAE AE GAEM." 50 ? #4;"WHICH SIED DOO YOO WAANT." 60 ? #4;"AE STRAENJ GAEM. THEE OENLEE WAE TOO WIN IS NAAT TOO PLAE." 70 ? #4;"HOU UBOUT AE NIES GAEM OF CHE-ESS" 80 STOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Actually, I reckon it'd need phonetics - no way would it be like the modern ones that can deduce the proper pronounciation of common words. If you get it going, be sure to capture some wavs of the popular sayings... "Stay a while. Stay forever." "Fuck you, arsehole." "I'll be back" "Destroy the humanoid" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernal Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 couldyou prehaps post these roms so we can expiriment with this as well =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 The ROMs are here: http://www.atarimuse...400xl/1400.html you will need to provide their path location in the atari800.cfg file, under: XLD_D_ROM=D: XLD_V_ROM=D: ---- I was pretty close to that above wargames program, only slightly off, since the documentation (what little there is) prompted me to guess that V:1:PD would do the trick. Then again, maybe it does. I'm getting an ERROR 130 when I attempt to run the above program... So it's not finding the V: handler. Some setting must not be right. When atari800 starts, it reports that it loaded the voice ROM image: >atari800 -windowed -1400 Using Atari800 config file: .atari800.cfg Created by Atari 800 Emulator, Version 2.1.0 loaded XLD voice rom image detected 16bpp Video Mode: 336x240x16[ ] Full screen [ ] BW [d] Width Mode [ ] Joysticks Swapped video initialized joystick 0 not found joystick 1 not found Is there handler code that needs to be loaded off of disk to enable the voice synthesizer on the 1400XL? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classics Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Is there a V entry in the CIO table? If not something will need to be loaded from disk or initialized so the V: entry points to the voice handler code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The reason I stopped being interested in this is on page 12. "There is no pitch/inflection control. There is no volume control" That's really unacceptable for speech in 1983. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry_m Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 There is no special driver. Use -nopatchall to disable all ROM patches. Use 1400.ROM (crc32: 25ea9356) and the regular XL/XE os. Load basic with no disk and type DOS and the Atari should talk in self-test mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yeah, the pitch & volume statement in the manual jumped out at me, as well. The thing is, the 1400XL apparently doesn't blank the screen while talking, making it fairly useful, regardless. Speaking of which... has anyone been able to get the S.A.M. voice synthesizer to work under emulation? It was always a favorite, back in the day, on real hardware. I've tried to get it to work in Atari800WinPlus 4.0, atari800, and atari++, to no avail. Anyone have an .ATR for SAM that works? I've tried two different ones, neither worked. === OK, so apparently, I have the wrong 1400 ROM. Odd that it reports that it loaded, on the atari800 emulator. Next question, of course, is: where oh, where might one find the file "1400.ROM", crc32: 25ea9356??? === The movie, "Colossus: The Forbin Project", is one of those great hacker movies, with tons of very quotable voice synthesized quotes. Definitely required watching; as a metaphor it details the more harrowing aspects of system administration. lol. === Thanks, Perry, for the code example! Hopefully the correct 1400XL ROM will turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry_m Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Google: site:pigwa.net "1400.rom" The other one is called 1450VHND.LER I think it works too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 For SAM to work properly, you'd need forced-volume (digital) sound to also work properly. A nice project would be to disassemble SAM and create a source for it, then re-assemble the whole thing so it could run from under the OS ROM, or 130XE extended RAM. Additional to that... change it to be able to use Pokey Timers rather than delay loops. That alone would probably improve it's quality by a good percentage, especially with the screen enabled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Here is a very good resource for the SSI-263 voice synthesis IC found in the 14xx systems: http://www.redcedar.com/sc01.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I wonder how this sounds compared to the SpeakJet-2 chip used in the AtariVox? I love all of those "old-school" speech chips. Stephen Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry_m Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 The Tong 1450XLD had the SSI-263, which is different from the SC-01. But there is no voice ROM available which is designed for it. The two ROMs 1400.rom and 1450VHND.LER are for the SC-01. If it existed, it could be emulated. I heard that the V: device didn't work on the TONG prototypes. Maybe the Tong 1450XLD ROM is for the old SC-01 version. I wonder if the SSI-263 1450XLD ROM code exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNIXcoffee928 Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 The Tong 1450XLD had the SSI-263, which is different from the SC-01. But there is no voice ROM available which is designed for it. The two ROMs 1400.rom and 1450VHND.LER are for the SC-01. If it existed, it could be emulated. I heard that the V: device didn't work on the TONG prototypes. Maybe the Tong 1450XLD ROM is for the old SC-01 version. I wonder if the SSI-263 1450XLD ROM code exists. Actual Votrax SC-01 ICs are available on ebay, for $29.00, here. It would be cool to interface this right to the PC's serial port. You probably could make a Right Cartridge slot cartridge for the 800 pretty easily, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenjennings Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Was the speech hardware in the 1400/1450 on the bus/had register addresses? Or was it tied into SIO somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I think it was a PBI device - in that case the likely setup is that registers become available in the $D1xx area when the device is enabled it's bit @ $D1FF. Re any CIO interface - you don't necessarily need a resident device handler - CIO on the XL allows for dynamically adding handlers via SIO or PBI attached devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 $D100, $D104, 1400XL/1450XLD Modem, Voice and Disk interface $D108, $D110 " $D114 " http://www.atariage.com/forums/topic/157241-list-of-hardware-registers/#entry1929723 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpiggle Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Will work on Window 7 Altirra emulator ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Sorry.... a little off topic and an old thread but how hard would it be to take one of those SC-01 chips and interface it with a 600XL or 800XL PBI bus? Was there a lot of complicated glue logic involved in the 1400XL? Just thought it would be cool to have a mechanical sounding voice synth to play with that was usable the same way it was in the 1400XL. Then I'd have even more reason to play with it in emulation too. Edited June 13, 2012 by kogden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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