Here is a hint: https://archive.org/..._Indenture_1991
Yeah, i saw that he had his own game. Still, i really dont know where to contact him since he seems to be the only person knowing all of these games we don't have a proof of existence of.
Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:38 PM
Here is a hint: https://archive.org/..._Indenture_1991
Yeah, i saw that he had his own game. Still, i really dont know where to contact him since he seems to be the only person knowing all of these games we don't have a proof of existence of.
Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:16 PM
I'd be really thankful if anyone knew who "Craig Pell" is. All the games on this list on the thread that no proof of existence are from his rarity list so we could ask him for that and maybe get a bunch of information from games we've never heard before. We just need to contact him somehow.
Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:31 PM
The VGR list hasn't been updated in 20 years. What makes you think he has any information on these games? They are games that many of us know were to be WIP. It is highly unlikely he has any info on them.
Since he listed those games on his list, i expect him to atleast have some info about it.
Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:18 PM
Since he listed those games on his list, i expect him to atleast have some info about it.
Do you really believe that?
I think he just collected the titles and put them in a text file.
That list is pre-historic and to think that you can find more information about these unreleased games by contacting Pell is a bit naive to say the least.
Better focus on the research that has been done after the creation of that list.
Or try contacting the programmers that were (planning to) work on these games.
Edited by Rom Hunter, Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:18 PM.
Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:26 PM
Do you really believe that?
I think he just collected the titles and put them in a text file.
That list is pre-historic and to think that you can find more information about these unreleased games by contacting Pell is a bit naive to say the least.
Better focus on the research that has been done after the creation of that list.
Or try contacting the programmers that were (planning to) work on these games.
If i dont get a clue in the next days i'll probably further work on the list that has already covered some of these games. It's been a long time since it got updated so theres a lot of work to do here
Posted Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:01 PM
Been ages since I looked at a list like that, it's amazing what's been found since the last time I did. Amazing what this community has done over the years.
That said, it still yanks my chain that the AD&D games are still out of reach. I mean, c'mon, removed the 'AD&D' language like INTV dud for the Intelly release of Tower of Doom and release the damn things already.
Posted Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:06 AM
Edited by Rom Hunter, Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:10 AM.
Posted Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:54 AM
Flashed it out a bit (deleted all the found and dumped ones):
Atari VCS 2600 Cartridges and Programs Reported as UnreleasedLast updated 2010-Dec-19ALIAS game is better known by another name. Details on following line.BKA = Better Known As; usually the last known name of an unreleased game.See the entry for the BKA name in this list for more info.EXISTS game prototype cartridge/board, EPROM, binary or source code has beendiscovered or is believed to be in a private collection but thebinary is not publicly availableMAY EXIST at least one credible source confirms that at least some coding ofthe game was started - perhaps as little as a 1-screen static demoALIAS+EXISTS Space Mission was a working title shown in ads for what Atarireleased as Star Ship. The game was also released by Searsas Outer Space. However, one Atari-branded cartridge bearingproduction Space Mission labels has been found.EXISTS+ALIAS two copies of the Pink Panther game are believed to exist. Thegame is known by several different titles.Titles without any entry in the NOTES column may never have been started.If the NOTES entry is a different publisher, the game was released(or intended for release) by that publisher.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Title Publisher Mfg # NOTES-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------3-D Asteroids Atari CX261053-D Ghost Attack (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga 1100 UNRELEASED3-D Havoc (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga 2110 UNRELEASED9 to 5 20th•Fox28 in 1 Atari30 in 1 Atari48 Hours Sega$25,000 Pyramid Great Game Co.AD&D: Tower of Mystery Mattel MT7175 EXISTSAD&D: Treasure of Tarmin Mattel MT4325 EXISTSAdventures of Max, The Atari MAY EXISTAdventures of the Pink Panther Probe 2000 EXISTS+ALIAS(see Pink Panther for list of aliases)Aerial Ace Imagic IA3409 ALIAS(released as Sky Patrol by Imagic)Airplane! SegaAnteater Mattel EXISTSAstro-Battle Ultravision ALIAS(released as Astrowar by Dimax/Sinmax)Astrochase Parker Bros. EXISTSAtom Smasher Cumma ALIAS(BKA Meltdown by 20th Century Fox)Atom Smasher Videa ALIAS(BKA Meltdown by 20th Century Fox)Attack of the Baby Seals 20th•FoxBaby Boom Boom Telesys ALIAS(BKA Bouncin' Baby Bunnies by Telesys)Bagman Atari MAY EXISTBallblazer Atari MAY EXISTBaseball Panda Inc.BASIC UnitronicsBASIC Programming (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDBattle of the Sexes Multivision MAY EXISTBear Jam Chalkboard Inc.Beginning Algebra (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDBeginning Math (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDBird Activision MAY EXISTBirthday Mania Personal Games Company EXISTSBlow Out Mattel MAY EXISTBlue Angels ApolloBobby's Cosmic Adventure TelegamesBouncing Baby Monkeys Telesys ALIAS(BKA Bouncin' Baby Bunnies by Telesys)Brain Ball TelesysBuck Rogers: Caverns of Zagreb SegaBuck Rogers: Marathon of Zenda SegaBuck Rogers: Secret of Sabar SegaButch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 20th•FoxCandyland Surfing 20th•Fox MAY EXISTCatch the Fly U.S. Games VC 2004 ALIAS(released as Picnic by U.S. Games)Cave-In SpectravideoCaverns of Mars AtariCaverns of Mars (for The Graduate) Atari UNRELEASEDChallenger AtariChanges Tigervision 7-013Childrens Intro to Programming (Grad) Atari UNRELEASEDCHIPs UltravisionChoplifter! Atari CX26124Circus Charlie Parker Bros. PB5750 MAY EXISTClone Attack StarpathComputer Corridor (=Computer Revenge) Mattel MT4318 MAY EXISTComputer Typing (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDConservation: The Watt Way Panda Inc.Contenders Activision AK-041Cosmic Avenger Coleco 2464Countermeasure AtariCount's Castle Atari MAY EXISTCumulus Mattel MAY EXISTDarts U.S. GamesDay the Earth Stood Still, The 20th•FoxDazzler UnitronicsDeep Throat Games People PlayDepth Charge (for Amiga Power Module) Amig 1100 APM UNRELEASEDDinograms Zimag ALIAS?(possibly the same as Stone Age released by CCE)Diver MythiconDomino Man CBS ElectronicsDonkey Kong (for The Graduate) Atari UNRELEASEDDonkey Kong 3 Atari?Dragon's Lair ColecoDragonslayer SegaDreadnaught Factor ActivisionDrive 'Em Krazy Spectravideo SA-216Dual Scrolling (untitled) Mattel MAY EXISTDungeon Master TelegamesDutch Elm Defender 20th•FoxEagle Mountain Spectravideo SA-221Electronic Football (port of handheld) MattelEscape From Alcatraz SegaEscape from Argos Imagic ALIAS(released as No Escape! by Imagic)Exus Health Cycle Program ExusFail Safe AtariFall Guy, The 20th•Fox 11018Family Feud Great Game Co.Family Finances (for The Graduate) Atari UNRELEASEDFire! PalmexFlap! Imagic EIZ-002-041 ALIAS(PAL-only released as Wing War by Imagic)Flapper (AKA Beanie Bopper, Jumper) Mattel MAY EXISTFlashlight (untitled) Mattel MAY EXISTFlesh Gordon Wizard Video MAY EXISTFlintstones, The MattelFlipper TechnovisionFood Fight Atari CX2693Football Fanatic Sports Comp-U-StatFormula I Technovision TVS 1008Foxbat AtariFrantic StarpathFrenzy ColecoFriday the 13th SegaFrogger Atari CX26147 PARKER BROSGalactic Invaders Panda Inc.Galaga Atari CX26116 MAY EXISTGetcha MultivisionGlactic Tactic Spectravideo SA-211Harem 1 MultivisionHarem 2 MultivisionHeartbreak MultivisionHercules vs. the Titans XonoxHigh Seas Mattel ALIAS(released as Sea Battle by Mattel)Home Filing Manager (for The Graduate) Atari UNRELEASEDHome Finance (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDHonker Bonker Atari ALIAS?(possibly BKA Holey Moley by Atari)Hoover Dam (The Levee Game)Hop to It Imagic ALIAS(released as Quick Step! by Imagic)Hot Rox Atari CX2615 ALIAS(released as Demons to Diamonds by Atari)Hydroplane Mattel MAY EXISTIce Trek ImagicImpossible Game, The Telesys MAY EXISTIncredible Hulk, The Parker Bros. MAY EXISTInner Space Venture Vision ALIAS(released as Laser Gates by Imagic)In Search of the Golden Skull Mattel MT4627 EXISTSIntroduction to Programming (Grad.) Atari UNRELEASEDIntuition Tigervision 7-009James Bond 007 as Seen in Octopussy Parker Bros. MAY EXISTJames Bond in Moonraker Parker Bros. MAY EXISTJaws Parker Bros.Jaws Universal Pictures PARKER BROSJeopardy Great Game Co.Jinks AtariJoker's Wild, The Great Game Co.Jumbo Jet Pilot Thorn EMIJungle Jim Technovision TVS 1005Jungler GakkenJungle Raid Starpath ALIAS(released as Survival Island by Starpath)Keystone Kapers II (speculative title) ActivisionKickman CBS Electronics MAY EXISTKnight Rider Studio GamesLabyrinth Starpath ALIAS(released as Escape from the Mindmaster by Starpath)Lady Bug Coleco 2463(a homebrew port of this game has been released)Laser Raid Technovision TVS 1015Last Line of Defense StarpathLast Starfighter, The (Doug Neubauer) Atari CX26134 ALIAS(released as Solaris by Atari)Last Starfighter, The (Tod Frye) Atari EXISTSLeonardo's Logo Chalkboard Inc.Leo's 'Lectric Paintbrush Chalkboard Inc.Leo's Links Chalkboard Inc.Loco-Motion Mattel MT4323 EXISTSLocomotive Technovision EXISTSLogic Master Chalkboard Inc.Logo (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDLook Ahead Cumma 20TH CENTURY FOX?Look Ahead 20th•FoxLoot MythiconLord of the Dungeon Probe 2000Lost and FoundMadden Football (AKA Maddenness) CBS ElectronicsMagnum, P.I. Studio GamesMarathon Man SegaMarathon of Zenda SegaMark of the Mole Atari EXISTSM*A*S*H II 20th•Fox MAY EXISTMaster Cylinder Spectravideo SA-222Masters of the Universe II Mattel MAY EXISTMeltdown (2600 version of 7800 title) AtariMetamorphosis Data AgeMickey and the Beanstalk AtariMickey and the Great Outdoors AtariMicro Maestro Chalkboard Inc.Midnight Rider Panda Inc.Millipede (Dave Staugas hard version) AtariMission: Impossible SegaMission Omega CommaVid CM-010 MAY EXISTMission X Mattel MAY EXISTMogul Maniac (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga 3105 UNRELEASEDMonkey Business Mattel MAY EXISTMonkey Up a Tree (for The Graduate) Atari UNRELEASEDMoon Base Technovision TVS 1010Motorcycle Game (title unknown) Activision MAY EXISTMotor Mouth Technovision TVS 1006Motor Psycho (AKA Motorcycle) Atari CX26141Mouse Highway Technovision TVS 1013Mr. Bill's Neighborhood Data AgeMr. T Data AgeMuffett SegaMusic Math Chalkboard Inc.Mystic Castle MattelNoah and the Ark SunriseNova Blast ImagicNumber Games (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDOff Your Rocker (for Amiga Power Module) AMIGA 3115 UNRELEASEDOne Fish, Two Fish by Dr. Seuss ColecoOrbitron MythiconPapa Smurf's Treasure Hunt ColecoPassword Great Game Co.Password Plus Great Game Co.Penetrator Avalon Hill MAY EXISTPepper II Coleco 2655 MAY EXISTPink Panther, The U.S. Games/Probe 2000 EXISTS+ALIAS(AKA Adventures of the Pink Panther, Pink Panther: The Video Game,Pursuit of the Pink Panther, Trail of the Pink Panther)Pipeline Atari MAY EXISTPlanet ProtectorPogoman Computer MagicPoltergeist CummaPopeye Atari PARKER BROSPorky's (alternate version) 20th•Fox MAY EXISTPower Play Arcade 1 (multi-cart) AmigaPower Play Arcade 2 (multi-cart) AmigaPower Play Arcade 3 (multi-cart) AmigaPower Play Arcade 4 (multi-cart) AmigaPower Play Arcade 5 (multi-cart) AmigaPreppie AtariPrice is Right, The Great Game Co.Protobob Spectravideo SA-209Pursuit of the Pink Panther Probe 2000 EXISTS+ALIAS(see Pink Panther for list of aliases)Qix AtariQuest for the Idol Ultravision ALIAS?(possibly the same as Challenge released by Funvision)Raiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg) Atari MAY EXISTRally-X AtariReal Time Chess (untitled) Atari MAY EXISTRelax SynapseRescue of Emmanuelle, The Gamex MAY EXISTRetail Demo Cartridge (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDRipley's Believe It or Not RoklanRoaring 20s 20th•Fox ALIAS(released as Bank Heist by 20th Century Fox)Robotron: 2084 (for The Graduate) Atari MAY EXISTRocky & Bullwinkle Atari MATTEL ELECTRONICSRocky Battles the Champ Coleco 2652Rodeo AtariRomper Room #1: Do Bee's 1st Alphabet Spectravideo SA-224Romper Room #2: Countdown to Fun Spectravideo SA-225Romper Rm #3: The Str. Where You Live S Spectravideo SA-226Round-Up AtariSabotage UltravisionS.A.C. Alert (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga 2105 UNRELEASEDS.A.C. Alert (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga 3135 UNRELEASEDSafecracker ImagicScavenger Hunt Amiga 2100Scavenger Hunt (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga UNRELEASEDScooby Doo AtariScooby Doo MattelScramble GCE MILTON BRADLEYScramble Milton Bradley 3501Scraper Caper Tigervision 7-010Sector Alpha Spectravideo SA-220Sharp Shot Mattel MAY EXISTShoot-Out Technovision TVS 100PSilly Safari Technovision TVS 1007Sinistar (Lou Harp version) Atari?Six Pack 20th•FoxSky Blazer Br0derbund MAY EXISTSky Lancer Tigervision 7-014Smokey Bear Data AgeSmurfette's Birthday (for KidVid) ColecoSnark Atari MAY EXISTSnowplow Sunrise MAY EXISTSoap Suds First Star ALIAS(released as Boing! by First Star)Solar Defense Venture Vision MAY EXISTSolo Br0derbund MAY EXISTSpacechase (monogrammed) Apollo EXISTSSpace Maze TelesysSpace Mission Atari CX2603 ALIAS+EXISTS(released as Star Ship by Atari and Outer Space by Sears)Space Robot Ultravision DIMAX/SINMAXSpeed Reading (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDSpelling 1 (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDSpelling Games (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDSpider Kong Ultravision ALIAS(released as Inca Gold by Funvision)Splendour Bomb MAY EXISTSports Statistics (for Piggyback) Entex UNRELEASEDSquish 'em Sirius(a homebrew port of this game has been released)Star Castle Atari CX2655 ALIAS(released as Yars' Revenge by Atari)Star Fox II MythiconStar Raiders II Atari CX26134 ALIAS(released as Solaris by Atari)Star Trek GCE MILTON BRADLEYStar Trek: The Motion Picture Milton Bradley 3500Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan SegaStar Trek III: The Search For Spock Sega 007-01Star Wars:Revenge of the Jedi: Game I Parker Bros. PB5060 ALIAS(BKA Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi: Ewok Adventure by Parker Bros.)Star Wars:Revenge of the Jedi:Game II Parker Bros. PB5065 ALIAS(released as Star Wars: RotJ: Death Star Battle by Parker Bros.)Stomp It CBS ElectronicsStone Age Technovision TVS1014 CCE?Strafe (for Amiga Power Module) Amiga 2115 UNRELEASEDStreet Fight! 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Group, Inc.(= Joseph Sugarman and Associates)(These titles may not be originals, but merely existing titles whose rightsJ.S. & A. purchased to help sell their unreleased PROM Blaster copier.It's also possible that they never existed at all.)
Good luck.
Eventually you will most probably end up with the links I posted above, but perhaps you'll find a snippet of new info in the future.
Wow! Thank you
Posted Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:16 PM
Wow! Thank you
Thanks for quoting the entire billion-line post immediately above yours. Really. That was brilliant.
Posted Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:32 AM
Thanks for quoting the entire billion-line post immediately above yours. Really. That was brilliant.
Why dont you cut him some slack. He is a man on a mission and pledged himself upon a near impossible quest. I know the feeling for 12 years ago I embarked on a similiar journey to identify quite a number of titles that at the time had no been identified and had I listened to the many doubters back then they would still be unidentified. Granted his quest is probably doomed to failure but at least he is trying so lets keep your level of sarcasm at a minimum and let him dream for a while longer.
Posted Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:05 AM
I have no idea what you're talking about. I had nothing but kind words for him.
Posted Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:20 AM
I have no idea what you're talking about. I had nothing but kind words for him.
Somethings never change and you certainly haven't.
Posted Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:36 AM
Rom, you might wanna add the alternate title thing to "Papa Smurfs Teasure Hunt" & "Smurfette's Birthday" as they are the same game.
"Smurf's Play & Learn" is missing from the list too. I think that was gonna be a KidVid title but I have no proof of this.
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