Jump to content

Photo

Atari Computers Rarity Guide


46 replies to this topic

#1 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Sat Jan 1, 2011 8:26 PM

I need a reliable rarity guide for Atari 8 Bit, can anyone help? also i need one for Commodore 64. Thanks in advance.

#2 Sean39 OFFLINE  

Sean39

    Moonsweeper

  • 340 posts
  • Atari 800, 130XE , and Intellivision ECS systems
  • Location:USA

Posted Sat Jan 1, 2011 9:28 PM

I need a reliable rarity guide for Atari 8 Bit, can anyone help? also i need one for Commodore 64. Thanks in advance.



hi it would be cool to see a Rarity Guide on the 8 bit computers,but I have never seen one yet.

I would Say the Rare Atari's would be your 400 and 800 with Very low Serial numbers. The Chips inside would also be dated 1979.

They would have a 4K memory in the Atari 400 and in the Atari 800 would have the 8 K memory.
Also the Graphics color card would be the First one that would only produce 8 colors.
Later on they change it over to a card that produced 256 colors.

There are some really rare Atari's systems and you can find more about them at www.atari.com
It an Atari museum..

Anyways a book never seen one.

Sean

#3 Mirage OFFLINE  

Mirage

    Quadrunner

  • 6,656 posts
  • Have a problem? Hire the Envious Snakes!
  • Location:Milwaukee, WI

Posted Sat Jan 1, 2011 10:15 PM

I'm assuming he was talking about software... like carts... right? Not the hardware. :?

#4 Shawn Jefferson OFFLINE  

Shawn Jefferson

    Stargunner

  • 1,986 posts
  • Location:Victoria, Canada

Posted Sat Jan 1, 2011 11:29 PM

http://www.atarimania.com

#5 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Mon Jan 3, 2011 7:12 PM

I'm assuming he was talking about software... like carts... right? Not the hardware. :?


Hi,

Yes, i was meaning Software (carts and other media). Iīm sorry to not to specify it clearly.

Thanks!

#6 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Mon Jan 3, 2011 7:17 PM

http://www.atarimania.com


Thanks, for the link,

I trying the site, seems promesing. I have a New/Sealed Facemaker from Spinnaker software, Is marked R8 for Us version and R6 for German version, That info is correct?

Edited by edintv, Mon Jan 3, 2011 7:18 PM.


#7 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Mon Jan 3, 2011 7:22 PM

Shows that Pogoman in disk is R9 and Blue Max (Synapse) in cassette is R7. I have to double check, since I get burned with an R7 2600 game, the rating was out of date and the game is selling in 10$

#8 Stormtrooper of Death OFFLINE  

Stormtrooper of Death

    Moonsweeper

  • 397 posts
  • Location:The Netherlands

Posted Tue Jan 4, 2011 5:34 PM

Shows that Pogoman in disk is R9 and Blue Max (Synapse) in cassette is R7. I have to double check, since I get burned with an R7 2600 game, the rating was out of date and the game is selling in 10$


Rare Atari hardware:

Atari Holoptics/Cosmos system

http://www.atarimuse...mos/cosmos.html

very rare, only 3 working on earth. not for sale.

software:
Gladiator for Atari on disk (rare)

and some others, i might edit this message, i am now drinking tea.

Oh, and if you have a working Atari Holoptics device, i give you 500$, thats what i can spend. I would say 10.000$, but i dont have that amount of money.

Edited by Stormtrooper of Death, Tue Jan 4, 2011 5:35 PM.


#9 PingvinBlueJeans OFFLINE  

PingvinBlueJeans

    River Patroller

  • 4,345 posts
  • Eat It

Posted Tue Jan 4, 2011 6:05 PM

Shows that Pogoman in disk is R9 and Blue Max (Synapse) in cassette is R7. I have to double check, since I get burned with an R7 2600 game, the rating was out of date and the game is selling in 10$

Some of those rarity numbers may be slightly "out of date" (mostly due to recent finds coming out of Venezuela), but that's not always the case.

Unlike Atari 2600 and most other console games, with the Atari 800 (and Commodore 64), "rare" does not always translate to expensive. With the computer systems there are tons of games (most on disk or tape) that received very limited releases but are not particularly expensive because they were never well known and thus aren't in high demand today. The people who collect this stuff are not completists like many other collectors, so many of the really rare games simply don't attract any attention. So basically, just because something is selling for little money always doesn't mean it isn't rare.

Although there are certainly exceptions, disk and tape releases, regardless of how popular they are, usually don't sell for a whole lot. The money is usually thrown at the rare cartridges from well-known publishers (Matterhorn and Espial by Tigervision, Super Zaxxon by Sega, Bounty Bob Strikes Back by Big Five Software, etc). Those are usually the games that pop up again and again on collectors' want lists. You simply don't see much demand for Pogoman.

#10 russg OFFLINE  

russg

    Stargunner

  • 1,626 posts
  • Location:Cleveland, Ohio

Posted Tue Jan 4, 2011 8:44 PM

I need a reliable rarity guide for Atari 8 Bit, can anyone help? also i need one for Commodore 64. Thanks in advance.

I got this list for A8 carts. The formatting got messed up somewhere
The list is in a zipped attachment below.

Article 43292 of comp.sys.atari.8bit:
Path: madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!slider.bme.ri.ccf.org!kira.cc.uak
ron.edu!neoucom.edu!news.ysu.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.wildstar.net!news.ececs
.uc.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!krieg
From: krieg@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Andrew Krieg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit,rec.games.video.atari,rec.games.video.classic
Subject: Atari 800/XL/XE Cartridge List 2.4
Date: 21 Jan 1997 14:55:22 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee - Computerr Science
Lines: 451
Message-ID: <5c2lcq$pnd@uwm.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.139.22
Xref: madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu comp.sys.atari.8bit:43292 rec.games.video.atari:89584
rec.games.video.classic:61186

===============================================================================
= Cartridge List for the Classic Atari 800/XL/XE Computers =
===============================================================================
= Rev. 2.4 January 21st, 1997 =
= =
= Author: Andrew Krieg krieg@execpc.com =
= =
= This list is also available via the WWW at: =
= http://www.cs.uwm.ed.../krieg/fun.html =
===============================================================================
= Welcome to the Classic Atari Computers Cartridge List! This list is based =
= on a list originally started by Kevin Chase. Many personalized versions of =
= Kevin's list started to pop-up, so I have attempted to consolidate every =
= bit of data I could find into one list. I hope you find it useful! =
===============================================================================
= Key =
= ------ =
= NR = Never released =
= ?xx = Year of release not known for certain. =
= kbo = Keyboard overlay was included with cartridge. =
= kp = Works with a Koala pad device. =
= lp = Works with a lightpen device. =
= ppt = Requires Chalkboard Inc.'s Powerpad Tablet device. =
= rso = This is a right slot only cart, exclusively for 800 computers. =
= CPS = Consumer Products Service, a division of Atari.
= * = This cart only runs on 400 and 800 model computers. =
= 2 = This cart requires 2 joysticks to play. =
= + = This cart was released more than once in different cart cases. =
= <none> = No catalog # for this cart =
= [O] = Checklist for cartridge ownership =
= [M] = Checklist for manual ownership =
= [B] = Checklist for original box ownership =
= =
= To reuse the checklists, use your favorite editor and replace all of the =
= string patterns "[x]" with "[ ]". You have to calculate your own ownership =
= and ratio values as well. =
===============================================================================
= The rarity ratings are still undergoing fine tuning. I would appreciate =
= any feedback on them. It should be noted that common carts for the Atari =
= computers are harder to find than common 2600 carts. They would probably =
= rank as uncommon or rare on the VGR 2600 list. =
= =
= Rarity =
= ------ =
= C Common These carts can be found fairly easily at thrift =
= stores, in sale posts on the 'Net, or in Atari =
= computer vendor catalogs (yes there still are some =
= vendors!). =
= U Uncommon A little harder to find, but they pop up on the 'Net =
= infrequently. =
= R Rare Very elusive to find carts. Some vendors still have =
= them in stock, but they are generally more expensive. =
= ER Extremely These are very, very hard to find. They usually have =
= Rare had a very low production run. Consider yourself =
= very lucky to come across one! =
= PR Prototype Never formally released. Only pre-release prototypes =
= exist. The ultimate rarity! =
===============================================================================
= Total = 348 carts Own = 175 carts Ratio = 50% =
===============================================================================
Rar-
Manufacturer Catalog # Yr Title ity [O][M][B]
--------------- --------- -- ------------------------------------ --- - - -
Activision Beamrider R [ ][ ][ ]
Activision CC-008-04 83 Decathlon U [x][x][ ]
Activision CC-102-04 84 Designer's Pencil, The U [x][ ][ ]
Activision CZ-005-04 84 Dreadnought Factor, The C [x][x][ ]
Activision CZ-007-04 84 H.E.R.O. U [ ][ ][ ]
Activision CZ-002-04 83 Kaboom! U [x][x][x]
Activision CZ-006-04 84 Keystone Kapers U [ ][ ][ ]
Activision CZ-003-04 83 MegaMania U [x][x][x]
Activision Pastfinder R [ ][ ][ ]
Activision CZ-004-04 84 Pitfall! U [ ][ ][ ]
Activision CA-011-04 84 Pitfall II U [x][x][ ]
Activision CZ-001-04 83 River Raid U [x][ ][ ]
Activision CA-012-04 83 Space Shuttle: A Journey Into Space U [x][ ][ ]
Activision CZ-010-04 84 Zenji U [x][x][ ]
Activision CC-101-04 84 Zone Ranger U [x][ ][ ]
Adventure Intl Rally X Speedway R [ ][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4010 79 3-D Tic-Tac-Toe U [x][ ][ ]
Atari [CPS] FD100335 1200XL SuperSALT Diag. cart (w/ kit) ER [ ][ ][ ]
Atari 79 400/800 SALT Diagnostic cartridge ER [x][ ][ ]
Atari TE15644 82 400/800 SALT Diagnostic cart 2.05 ER [x][ ][ ]
Atari [CPS] FD100006 810 Diagnostic cartridge ER [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8099 88 Ace of Aces (by Accolade) C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8109 88 Airball R [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8092 87 Archon (by Electronic Arts) C [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4003 79 Assembler Editor Computing Language U [x][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4013 81 Asteroids C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8054 83 Atari Graphics [w/ CX75 Light Pen] R [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8032 83 Atari LOGO Computing Language U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8053 83 Atariartist [w/ CX77 Touch Tablet] U [x][ ][ ]
Atari AED80013 83 AtariLab: Light Module U [ ][ ][ ]
Atari AED80014 84 AtariLab: Temperature Module U [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8036 82 AtariWriter [version A, brown] C [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8036 84 AtariWriter [version C, silver] U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8064 87 Ballblazer (by Lucasfilm) C [x][x][x]
Atari RX8086 87 Barnyard Blaster [uses lightgun] U [x][x][x]
Atari CXL4002 79 BASIC Computing Language [ver. A] C [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4002B ?81 BASIC Computing Language [ver. B] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4002C ?83 BASIC Computing Language [ver. C] R [ ][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4004 79 Basketball C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8077 87 Battlezone U [x][x][x]
Atari Berzerk PR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8081 87 Blue Max (by Synapse) U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8087 87 Bug Hunt [uses lightgun] U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8021 87 Caverns of Mars C [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4020 82 Centipede C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8096 88 Choplifter! (by Br0derbund) U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8094 Commando ER [ ][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4009 79 Computer Chess U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8104 88 Crime Buster [uses lightgun] R [x][x][x]
Atari RX8088 87 Crossbow [uses lightgun] R [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8102 88 Crystal Castles R [x][x][x]
Atari RX8101 88 Dark Chambers U [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8083 87 David's Midnight Magic(by Br0derbund) U [x][x][x]
Atari CXL4025 82 Defender C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8??? Deflektor ER [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8089 88 Desert Falcon U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8026 83 Dig Dug C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8031 83 Donkey Kong C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8040 83 Donkey Kong Jr. C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8039 83 Eastern Front (by APX) C [x][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4001 79 Educational System Master Cartridge U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8030 83 E.T. Phone Home! C [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8085 87 Fight Night (by Accolade) U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8067 84 Final Legacy U [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8091 87 Flight Simulator II (by subLOGIC) C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8079 87 Food Fight U [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4024 82 Galaxian C [x][x][x]
Atari RX8090 87 GATO (by Spectrum Holobyte) R [x][x][x]
Atari RX8084 87 Hardball (by Accolade) U [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4019 In-Store Demonstration Program Cart ER [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8114 88 Into the Eagle's Nest (by Pandora) U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8044 83 Joust C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8049 83 Jungle Hunt [+] U [x][x][ ]
Atari Kangaroo PR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8095 Karateka (by Br0derbund) U [ ][ ][ ]
Atari Letter Tutor PR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8082 87 Lode Runner (by Br0derbund) U [x][x][x]
Atari CXL4014 Mailing List R [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8103 88 Mario Bros. U [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8035 82 Microsoft BASIC II Programming Lang. U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8048 84 Millipede U [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4012 81 Missile Command C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8052 87 Moon Patrol C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8043 83 Ms. Pac-Man C [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4007 80 Music Composer C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8108 88 Necromancer U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8093 87 One-on-One Basketball (by Elec. Arts) U [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4022 82 Pac-Man C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8045 83 Pengo U [x][x][x]
Atari CXL4018 80 Pilot Computing Language U [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8080 85 The Learning Phone (PLATO) R [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8034 83 Pole Position C [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4027 82 Qix C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8029 83 RealSports Football C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8063 87 Rescue on Fractalus (by Lucasfilm) U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8033 83 Robotron: 2084 C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8059 84 Skywriter (by EduFun!) U [x][x][x]
Atari CXL4008 81 Space Invaders U [x][x][x]
Atari CXL4011 80 Star Raiders C [x][x][ ]
Atari RX8078 87 Star Raiders II U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8098 88 Summer Games (by Epyx) U [x][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4006 79 Super Breakout C [x][ ][ ]
Atari CB101931 Super Pac-Man PR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari 83 XL SuperSALT Diag. cartridge 3.04 ER [ ][ ][ ]
Atari <none> 83 Superman III PR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4015 81 Telelink I U [x][x][ ]
Atari CXL4016 Telelink II R [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8042 83 Tennis C [x][ ][ ]
Atari RX8113 88 Thunderfox U [x][x][x]
Atari RX8111 Tower Toppler PR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8069 Track and Field R [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8057 84 Typo Attack (by APX) U [x][ ][ ]
Atari CXL4005 79 Video Easel U [x][ ][ ]
Atari CA400201 XE Demo Cartridge [4 games] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Austin Franklin <none> Austin 80 SWP ATR 8000 Console Term. ER [ ][ ][ ]
Austin Franklin <none> Austin 80 Console Software [rso] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Beaumont PUP (Primary Utility Pack) ER [ ][ ][ ]
Big Five <none> 84 Bounty Bob Strikes Back! ER [x][ ][ ]
Big Five <none> 83 Miner 2049er C [x][x][ ]
Br0derbund 82 Choplifter! U [x][ ][ ]
Br0derbund Sea Fox R [ ][ ][ ]
Br0derbund ATCART190 82 Serpentine C [x][x][ ]
CBS Software 4L-0502 84 Astro-Grover [kbo] U [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-0505 84 Big Bird's Funhouse U [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-0109 84 Big Bird's Special Delivery U [x][x][x]
CBS Software Blue Print R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software Boulders & Bombs R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-9847 84 Coconotes U [x][ ][ ]
CBS Software Domino Man R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-9889 84 Ducks Ahoy! U [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-0108 84 Ernie's Magic Shapes U [x][x][x]
CBS Software 84 Halftime Battlin' Bands R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software M8786 82 K-razy Antiks (by K-Byte) C [x][x][ ]
CBS Software M8788 82 K-razy Kritters (by K-Byte) [*] U [x][ ][ ]
CBS Software M8784 82 K-razy Shoot-Out (by K-Byte) C [x][x][ ]
CBS Software M8790 82 K-star Patrol (by K-Byte) U [x][x][ ]
CBS Software Madden's Football R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 75010 84 Math Mileage U [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-2541 83 Mountain King (by K-Byte) U [x][ ][ ]
CBS Software 84 Movie Musical Madness U [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software Omega Race R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 84 Peanut Butter Panic R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software Satan's Hollow R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-9890 84 Sea Horse Hide'n Seek U [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-0365 84 Sesame Street Letter-Go-Round[2 kbo] U [x][x][x]
CBS Software Solar Fox R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 4L-0111 Time Bound U [x][x][ ]
CBS Software Time Trials R [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software 84 Webster: The Word Game U [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software Wings R [ ][ ][ ]
Chalkboard Inc. 10031A-3 83 BearJam [ppt] [*] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Chalkboard Inc. 10011A-3 83 Leo's 'Lectric Paintbrush [ppt] [*] ER [x][x][x]
Chalkboard Inc. Leo's Links [ppt] [*] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Chalkboard Inc. 10042A-3 83 LogicMaster [ppt] [*] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Chalkboard Inc. 10021A-3 83 MicroMaestro [ppt] [*] ER [x][x][x]
Chalkboard Inc. 10016A-3 Micro Illustrator [ppt] [*] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Citibank 84 Direct Access (home banking) ER [ ][ ][ ]
Dana <none> 83 Alien Ambush U [ ][ ][ ]
Dana <none> 83 Cloudburst (by Tensor Technologies) R [ ][ ][ ]
Datasoft Letter Wizard R [ ][ ][ ]
Eastern House KISS [rso] R [ ][ ][ ]
Eastern House Monkey Wrench [rso] R [ ][ ][ ]
Eastern House 83 Monkey Wrench II [rso] R [ ][ ][ ]
Elcomp Atext-1 (word processor) ER [ ][ ][ ]
Elcomp Atmas (macro assembler) ER [ ][ ][ ]
Elcomp Atmona-1 (machine language monitor) ER [ ][ ][ ]
Epyx 54 82 Alien Garden U [x][x][ ]
Epyx 83 Fun with Art U [x][ ][ ]
Epyx Fun with Music R [ ][ ][ ]
Epyx 614R 83 Gateway to Apshai U [x][x][ ]
Epyx <none> 83 Jumpman Junior U [x][x][ ]
Epyx Lunar Outpost R [ ][ ][ ]
Epyx <none> 82 Monster Maze [*] U [x][ ][ ]
Epyx 604R 83 Pitstop U [x][x][ ]
Epyx 55 82 Plattermania U [x][x][ ]
Epyx 664R 83 Silicon Warrior C [x][x][ ]
Epyx SWAT Rescue R [ ][ ][ ]
Exidy Demo Cartridge ER [ ][ ][ ]
First Star 82 Astrochase ER [ ][ ][ ]
First Star <none> 83 Bristles ER [ ][ ][ ]
First Star <none> 84 Boulder Dash ER [ ][ ][ ]
First Star <none> 83 Flip and Flop ER [ ][ ][ ]
Fisher-Price DCF-AT 84 Dance Fantasy U [ ][ ][ ]
Fisher-Price LNL-AT 84 Linking Logic U [x][ ][ ]
Fisher-Price LLV-AT 84 Logic Levels U [x][ ][ ]
Fisher-Price MEM-AT 84 Memory Manor U [x][x][x]
FTe SpartaDOS X (OS) (by ICD) U [ ][ ][ ]
Gebelli Doc Goodlode's Cavern ER [ ][ ][ ]
Gebelli <none> 82 Embargo (by Solitare Group) ER [x][x][x]
Gebelli <none> 81 Firebird ER [x][x][x]
GeminiSoft Magic Dump [rso] R [ ][ ][ ]
HES 83 Gridrunner R [ ][ ][ ]
HES C730 Mr. TNT ER [ ][ ][ ]
Hsu Software Math Encounter R [ ][ ][ ]
ICD Basic XL (by O.S.S.) U [ ][ ][ ]
ICD R-Time 8 (clock cartridge) U [ ][ ][ ]
ICD SpartaDOS X (OS) U [ ][ ][ ]
IDSI AC1001 82 Pool 400 R [x][x][x]
IDSI AC1021 82 Speedway Blast R [x][ ][ ]
IDSI Survival of the Fittest R [ ][ ][ ]
Imagic 720125-1A 83 Atlantis C [x][x][ ]
Imagic 720149-1A 82 Demon Attack U [x][ ][ ]
InHome Software Baseball ER [ ][ ][ ]
InHome Software Captain Beeble ER [ ][ ][ ]
K-Byte 81 K-razy Antiks R [ ][ ][ ]
K-Byte ATR 1000 81 K-razy Shoot-Out R [x][x][x]
Koala AT00315-1 83 KoalaPainter [lp?] [kp] [*] U [x][ ][ ]
LindaSoft Conquest of the Crown ER [ ][ ][ ]
LindaSoft Hypnotic Land ER [ ][ ][ ]
LJK Data Perfect [80 column] R [ ][ ][ ]
LJK Edit 6502 R [ ][ ][ ]
LJK Letter Perfect [40 column] U [ ][ ][ ]
LJK Letter Perfect [80 column] R [ ][ ][ ]
MPP Microfiler (database) R [ ][ ][ ]
MPP <none> 83 Smart Terminal R [x][ ][ ]
MPP 85 Supercharger (BBS software) U [ ][ ][ ]
OrionMicro Express! R [ ][ ][ ]
O.S.S. <none> 84 Action! C [x][x][ ]
O.S.S. <none> 85 Basic XE U [ ][ ][ ]
O.S.S. <none> Basic XL U [ ][ ][ ]
O.S.S. <none> 84 Mac/65 U [ ][ ][ ]
O.S.S. <none> Writer's Tool, The U [ ][ ][ ]
Pandora <none> 85 Powerstar ER [x][x][x]
Parker Bros. 83 Astrochase (by First Star Software) R [x][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. Chess R [ ][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. PB1110 83 Frogger C [x][x][ ]
Parker Bros. Frogger II: Threedeep R [ ][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. PB1280 84 Gyruss R [ ][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. 84 James Bond 007 R [x][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. <none> 83 Popeye C [x][x][ ]
Parker Bros. <none> 83 Q*Bert C [x][x][ ]
Parker Bros. Risk R [ ][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. 84 Star Wars: The Arcade Game U [x][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. PB101303 83 Star Wars: RotJ-Death Star Battle R [x][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. PB1140 83 Super Cobra U [x][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. Tutankham R [ ][ ][ ]
PPI G2300 Super Sketch Graphics Master ER [ ][ ][ ]
Rantom Trust R [ ][ ][ ]
Reevesoft Diamond GOS 1.0 R [ ][ ][ ]
Reevesoft Diamond GOS 2.0 R [ ][ ][ ]
Reston Movie Maker R [ ][ ][ ]
Roklan <none> 83 Castle Hassle R [x][ ][ ]
Roklan 09-01101 83 Deluxe Invaders C [x][x][ ]
Roklan 09-01131 83 Diamond Mine U [x][x][ ]
Roklan 09-01102 83 Gorf [*] C [x][x][ ]
Roklan 09-01124 83 Journey to the Planets C [x][x][ ]
Roklan Lifespan R [ ][ ][ ]
Roklan Rack Em Up R [ ][ ][ ]
Roklan 11-01222 84 Scott Foresman's Star Maze ER [ ][ ][ ]
Roklan 09-01116 83 Space Journey U [x][x][ ]
Roklan <none> 81 Wizard of Wor C [x][x][ ]
Romox <none> 82 Ant Eater R [x][-][x]
Romox <none> 82 Attack at EP-CYG-4 (by Bram) [*] R [x][-][x]
Romox Flapper ER [ ][ ][ ]
Romox <none> 82 Fortune Hunter R [x][-][x]
Romox <none> Princess and the Frog R [x][-][x]
Romox Sea Chase R [ ][ ][ ]
Romox Spark Bugs R [ ][ ][ ]
Romox Starion R [ ][ ][ ]
Romox Typo R [ ][ ][ ]
Romox Whiz Kid R [ ][ ][ ]
Scarborough #102 83 MasterType U [ ][ ][ ]
Sega 005-03 83 Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom U [x][ ][ ]
Sega 006-03 83 Congo Bongo R [x][ ][ ]
Sega 011-03 84 Spy Hunter [2] R [x][ ][ ]
Sega 004-03 83 Star Trek: Strategic Operations Sim. U [x][ ][ ]
Sega 012-03 84 Super Zaxxon R [ ][ ][ ]
Sega Tac-Scan R [ ][ ][ ]
Sega Tapper R [ ][ ][ ]
Sega 009-03 84 Up N Down U [ ][ ][ ]
Sega 008-03 84 Zaxxon U [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line 83 BC's Quest for Tires R [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line Creepy Corridors R [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line ORM-001 81 Crossfire U [x][x][x]
Sierra On-Line Jawbreaker R [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line Jawbreaker II U [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line Learning with Leeper U [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line Maurauder R [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line MCL-201 83 Mr. Cool R [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line OWL-801 83 Oil's Well R [ ][ ][ ]
Sierra On-Line Sammy Lightfoot ER [ ][ ][ ]
Sirius 33022 83 Alpha Shield R [x][x][x]
Sirius Capture the Flag ER [ ][ ][ ]
Sirius <none> 82 Fantastic Voyage(by 20th Century Fox) R [ ][ ][ ]
Sirius <none> 82 Fast Eddie R [ ][ ][ ]
Sirius <none> 83 Final Orbit R [x][x][ ]
Sirius <none> 83 Spider City U [x][ ][ ]
Sirius <none> 83 Squish 'Em R [x][ ][ ]
Sirius <none> 82 Turmoil (by 20th Century Fox) U [x][ ][ ]
Sirius Worm War I R [ ][ ][ ]
SoftCountry Chessmaster 2000 ER [ ][ ][ ]
Softmark 86 ESP Mindlock BBS ER [ ][ ][ ]
SpectraVideo Frantic Freddie ER [ ][ ][ ]
Spinnaker ADV-AT 84 Adventure Creator U [x][x][ ]
Spinnaker Aegean Voyage R [ ][ ][ ]
Spinnaker ALF-AT 84 Alf in the Color Caves R [x][x][x]
Spinnaker ABZ-AT 83 Alphabet Zoo U [x][x][ ]
Spinnaker Cosmic Life R [ ][ ][ ]
Spinnaker DLD-AT 83 Delta Drawing Learning Program U [x][ ][ ]
Spinnaker Delta Music U [ ][ ][ ]
Spinnaker FMK-AT 83 Facemaker U [x][x][x]
Spinnaker FRF-AT Fraction Fever U [x][ ][ ]
Spinnaker JUK-AT Jukebox R [ ][ ][ ]
Spinnaker Kid Writer R [ ][ ][ ]
Spinnaker KOK-AT 83 Kids on Keys U [x][ ][ ]
Spinnaker KDC-AT 83 Kindercomp U [x][ ][ ]
Spinnaker Ranch ER [ ][ ][ ]
Spinnaker SMC-AT 83 Story Machine U [x][ ][ ]
Spinnaker Up for Grabs R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> 82 Chicken [*] U [x][x][ ]
Synapse <none> 82 Claim Jumper U [x][x][ ]
Synapse <none> Drelbs R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> File Manager R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> Fort Apocalypse U [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> Nautilus R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> Necromancer R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> Pharoah's Curse, The R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> 82 Picnic Paranoia [*] R [x][x][x]
Synapse <none> 82 Protector II R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> Shadow World R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> 82 Shamus [*] C [x][x][ ]
Synapse <none> Slamball R [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> 82 Slime [*] U [x][x][ ]
Synapse <none> Survivor U [ ][ ][ ]
Synapse <none> Synassembler R [ ][ ][ ]
Tech-Sketch Paint-N-Sketch Level I[uses lightpen] ER [ ][ ][ ]
Tech-Sketch Paint-N-Sketch Level II[uses lightpen]ER [ ][ ][ ]
TG Software <none> 83 Abracadabra R [ ][ ][ ]
TG Software <none> 83 Droids ER [ ][ ][ ]
TG Software <none> 83 Nightstrike ER [ ][ ][ ]
TG Software <none> Ozzy's Orchard R [ ][ ][ ]
Thompson Elec. Proburner R [ ][ ][ ]
Thorn EMI THA12010 83 Computer War U [x][x][ ]
Thorn EMI THA12002 82 Jumbo Jet Pilot U [x][x][ ]
Thorn EMI THB12004 82 Kickback U [x][x][ ]
Thorn EMI THB12009 83 Major League Hockey U [x][ ][ ]
Thorn EMI THB12008 ORC Attack ER [ ][ ][ ]
Thorn EMI THB12005 83 River Rescue U [x][x][ ]
Thorn EMI THB12003 82 Soccer U [x][x][x]
Thorn EMI THA12001 82 Submarine Commander U [x][x][ ]
Thorn EMI Tank Commander R [ ][ ][ ]
TigerVision 84 MatterHorn R [ ][ ][ ]
TigerVision 83 Springer R [ ][ ][ ]
Walling Co. AProm ER [ ][ ][ ]
Walling Co. AProm XL ER [ ][ ][ ]
Walling Co. Six Pack I ER [ ][ ][ ]
Walling Co. Six Pack II ER [ ][ ][ ]
??? Bumper Bash ER [ ][ ][ ]
===============================================================================
= The following games were never released but prototypes may exist. Until =
= someone claims to own a prototype, they will not be part of the regular =
= list. =
===============================================================================
Atari Blast 'Em NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari Macro Assembler NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8124 MidiMaze NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8028 RealSports Soccer NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8037 Star Trux NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8120 Super Football NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari SuperPILOT NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari RX8118 89 Xenophobe NR [ ][ ][ ]
Atari Xevious NR [ ][ ][ ]
CBS Software Big Bird's Egg Catch NR [ ][ ][ ]
MPP Assault Force 3-D NR [ ][ ][ ]
Parker Bros. Montezuma's Revenge NR [ ][ ][ ]
Roklan Anti-Sub Patrol NR [ ][ ][ ]
===============================================================================
DISCLAIMER

Copyright (1997) by Andrew Krieg (krieg@execpc.com).

This document may be distributed electronically, linked to via the WWW or
printed freely, providing it is unaltered and includes the disclaimer and
copyright notice. Please ask for permission before publishing this document
in print or altering its content for redistribution electronically.
===============================================================================
===========================================================================
=__ __ __ _ __ _= Andrew Krieg - Software Engineering Consultant =
=_ __ _ __ _ _ __= E-mail: krieg@execpc.com =
=_ _ _ ___= WWW: http://www.cs.uwm.ed...rieg/index.html =
=_ __ _ __ _ _ __==========================================================
=_ __ _ __ _ __ _= Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee - Astoroth =
===========================================================================
--
===========================================================================
=__ __ __ _ __ _= Andrew Krieg - Software Engineering Consultant =
=_ __ _ __ _ _ __= E-mail: krieg@execpc.com =
=_ _ _ ___= WWW: http://www.cs.uwm.ed...rieg/index.html =



Attached Files



#11 PingvinBlueJeans OFFLINE  

PingvinBlueJeans

    River Patroller

  • 4,345 posts
  • Eat It

Posted Tue Jan 4, 2011 10:47 PM

I need a reliable rarity guide for Atari 8 Bit, can anyone help? also i need one for Commodore 64. Thanks in advance.

I got this list for A8 carts. The formatting got messed up somewhere
The list is in a zipped attachment below.

Dude, seriously...the key word here is reliable. That list is from 1997. There's numerous games listed on there as "rare" that in fact weren't even released.

The Atarimania site (already mentioned above) is about the most reliable guide you're going to get.

#12 SpaceDice2010 OFFLINE  

SpaceDice2010

    Stargunner

  • 1,040 posts

Posted Tue Jan 4, 2011 11:09 PM

What does a Bounty go for now? Rough idea?

#13 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 12:14 AM

I need a reliable rarity guide for Atari 8 Bit, can anyone help? also i need one for Commodore 64. Thanks in advance.

I got this list for A8 carts. The formatting got messed up somewhere
The list is in a zipped attachment below.

Dude, seriously...the key word here is reliable. That list is from 1997. There's numerous games listed on there as "rare" that in fact weren't even released.

The Atarimania site (already mentioned above) is about the most reliable guide you're going to get.


Yes, so much stuff happen since 1997, Atarimania seems a good choice, but is still not enough to get an stimation of a price, the ideal rarity guide gathers information from Auction sites, I saw some list like that for the Intellivision, but was not updated anymore. and the info from back then wasnīt real.

#14 Rhod OFFLINE  

Rhod

    Dragonstomper

  • 586 posts
  • Location:France

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:01 AM

rarity change with years.....

#15 Stephen OFFLINE  

Stephen

    Quadrunner

  • 6,458 posts
  • A8 Gear Head
  • Location:No longer in Crakron, Ohio

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 1:39 PM

Dude, seriously...the key word here is reliable. That list is from 1997. There's numerous games listed on there as "rare" that in fact weren't even released.

The Atarimania site (already mentioned above) is about the most reliable guide you're going to get.

Well, it doesn't get much more rare than unreleased :D

#16 UNIXcoffee928 OFFLINE  

UNIXcoffee928

    Stargunner

  • 1,177 posts
  • Location:Sosaria, USA

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 3:31 PM

Shows that Pogoman in disk is R9 and Blue Max (Synapse) in cassette is R7. I have to double check, since I get burned with an R7 2600 game, the rating was out of date and the game is selling in 10$


Rare Atari hardware:

Atari Holoptics/Cosmos system

http://www.atarimuse...mos/cosmos.html

very rare, only 3 working on earth. not for sale.

software:
Gladiator for Atari on disk (rare)

and some others, i might edit this message, i am now drinking tea.

Oh, and if you have a working Atari Holoptics device, i give you 500$, thats what i can spend. I would say 10.000$, but i dont have that amount of money.


Ya know... THAT was the Atari Era that I liked the best... When they were truly R&D Innovators!

There was some very serious high-end research going on at Atari, at one time. The Atari Holoptics Lab is an interesting example of one of the research departments that made Atari so far ahead of it's time.

A lot of people are unaware of it, but Atari, at that time, was right up there with Xerox Palo Alto Research Center (PARC). Many of the people in the advanced R&D at Atari had migrated from Douglas Englebart's Augmentation Research Center (ARC) lab at SRI, taking that culture & innovation with them. There is a direct link to the individuals at SRI, who migrated to Atari R&D & PARC, and flitted between the two labs, after leaving ARC.

There was most definitely a reason why Atari was presented, as it was, in the movie, "Blade Runner". At that time, many of the best & the brightest minds were closely tied to Atari's R&D labs. In the first years of the 80s, at Atari, there was no reason to believe that they could ever fail.

Here is the most mind blowing stuff from ARC (note the date...):

Mother of All Demos

People interested in this aspect of Atari's history should check out the books, "What the Dormouse Said", and "Dealers of Lightening", to trace the lineage of the the thought & culture that comprised Atari's R&D labs. 

When I have some more time, I will start a topic specifically on Atari R&D, since it is a less well defined aspect of Atari's history. Perhaps, then, some users here will be able to share their memories of the Atari R&D scene, and add to the body of knowledge.

#17 russg OFFLINE  

russg

    Stargunner

  • 1,626 posts
  • Location:Cleveland, Ohio

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 5:52 PM

I need a reliable rarity guide for Atari 8 Bit, can anyone help? also i need one for Commodore 64. Thanks in advance.

I got this list for A8 carts. The formatting got messed up somewhere
The list is in a zipped attachment below.

Dude, seriously...the key word here is reliable. That list is from 1997. There's numerous games listed on there as "rare" that in fact weren't even released.

The Atarimania site (already mentioned above) is about the most reliable guide you're going to get.

OK

Edited by russg, Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:17 PM.


#18 bojay1997 OFFLINE  

bojay1997

    Dragonstomper

  • 864 posts

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 7:06 PM

Not to be overly critical, but I don't really see the point of all these rarity request posts you've been doing lately. You're using Ebay and people are obviously aware of your auctions, so let the market decide what stuff is worth. Honestly, what people bid on your stuff is going to be significantly lower than what an American seller might get simply because it costs more to ship and some people just won't buy from newer sellers or from South America. You also have the problem that not everything you sell is mint collector's shape, so that impacts prices as well. It seems like it would make sense for you to make an arrangement with a US seller or dealer and just ship a bunch of stuff to them for sale and redistribution.

#19 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 7:28 PM

Not to be overly critical, but I don't really see the point of all these rarity request posts you've been doing lately. You're using Ebay and people are obviously aware of your auctions, so let the market decide what stuff is worth. Honestly, what people bid on your stuff is going to be significantly lower than what an American seller might get simply because it costs more to ship and some people just won't buy from newer sellers or from South America. You also have the problem that not everything you sell is mint collector's shape, so that impacts prices as well. It seems like it would make sense for you to make an arrangement with a US seller or dealer and just ship a bunch of stuff to them for sale and redistribution.


Hi,

My request for rarity is that I could be a better seller, to get prices that people would like, but in the same time that i donīt lose money in the process.

Many of the Customers are already Us sellers, they list on ebay at least 2-3 times what they are paying, I talked to several, and they are expecting 1$ a piece, so they can get a 1000% profit.

Is worst for the collector comunity that the Venezuelan sellers stop selling directly, the prices will go higer.

About the condition, I try to post pictures as good as I can so the customer can see the quality of the item and decide if is worth it, that my key point with my competition. I canīt choose the quality of the items Iīm getting, and many of the games came from Musicland clearences, so they had original store wear of a sale Item on a bin.

I thin that a collectorīs item can get a home, no matter the condition, some people donīt care about boxes, just need the media, for me is a crime to throw away a geme because is in unmint condition, most of my collection is like that and I appreciated as well as the sealed mint ones.

#20 svenski OFFLINE  

svenski

    Stargunner

  • 1,484 posts
  • Location:To the left of POKEY

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:05 PM

Hi,

My request for rarity is that I could be a better seller, to get prices that people would like, but in the same time that i donīt lose money in the process.

Many of the Customers are already Us sellers, they list on ebay at least 2-3 times what they are paying, I talked to several, and they are expecting 1$ a piece, so they can get a 1000% profit.

Is worst for the collector comunity that the Venezuelan sellers stop selling directly, the prices will go higer.


The main problem you have is the fact you are in Venezuela and shipping charges are quite high, especially when you take into account the lengthy delivery times usually quoted which also (I might add) tend to be optimistic. It would be quicker for someone to row across the Atlantic than to wait for something to arrive from Venezuela.

This is a problem as when people pay through ebay etc they only get a limited time to take action if their orders don't arrive - the time period is much shorter than the delivery times from Venezuela and people have to balance risk when ordering something and waiting months for it to (hopefully) arrive and running out of time to claim via ebay/paypal or buying something from a seller in the US or Europe who is able to ship quickly and who's postal service doesn't involve un hombre remando en marcha atras con su barquito. :ponder:

Un Saludo.

#21 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:19 PM

Hi,

My request for rarity is that I could be a better seller, to get prices that people would like, but in the same time that i donīt lose money in the process.

Many of the Customers are already Us sellers, they list on ebay at least 2-3 times what they are paying, I talked to several, and they are expecting 1$ a piece, so they can get a 1000% profit.

Is worst for the collector comunity that the Venezuelan sellers stop selling directly, the prices will go higer.


The main problem you have is the fact you are in Venezuela and shipping charges are quite high, especially when you take into account the lengthy delivery times usually quoted which also (I might add) tend to be optimistic. It would be quicker for someone to row across the Atlantic than to wait for something to arrive from Venezuela.

This is a problem as when people pay through ebay etc they only get a limited time to take action if their orders don't arrive - the time period is much shorter than the delivery times from Venezuela and people have to balance risk when ordering something and waiting months for it to (hopefully) arrive and running out of time to claim via ebay/paypal or buying something from a seller in the US or Europe who is able to ship quickly and who's postal service doesn't involve un hombre remando en marcha atras con su barquito. :ponder:

Un Saludo.


Yes, lately the mail is so much slower than usual, due to several reasons, from climate to boureocratic decisions.

I donīt think that is expensive, many Us sellers charge locally what we cahrge, and I get a quote from a seller to ship directly to my countri and was 42$ for 6 loose carts, we charge 30 for an Atari 800xl very well packed, about 14-15 pounds weigth. Is a slow service for sure, but that the reason people call us "the 3rd world".

The others mail options are Fedex, Dhl, many times the value already charging.

#22 svenski OFFLINE  

svenski

    Stargunner

  • 1,484 posts
  • Location:To the left of POKEY

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:31 PM

If I was to compare say the price of an 800XL shipped via the usual quickest EMS method it is comparable to say getting something similar in weight from the US via USPS - which would arrive in a fraction of the time. So you balance the price for the items purchased from Venezuela against the risk of never receiving them. That is the problem.

Obviously the market sets the prices to a large degree but if you set your starting prices too high then the risk will outweigh the possible benefit - i.e. the items actually arriving and within a reasonable time.

Obviously shipping times have been made worse by recent events and Ipostal probably doesn't help matters and non of that is your fault. If you ever come to the UK then bring a ton of Atari stuff with you to sell :D

As this issue was highlighted by Atari User readers, we've posted some advice for people ordering from Venezuela through ebay/Paypal. You can read it here

Edited by svenski, Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:45 PM.


#23 SpaceDice2010 OFFLINE  

SpaceDice2010

    Stargunner

  • 1,040 posts

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:41 PM

How did all the Musicland items end up there if I may ask?

#24 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:46 PM

If I was to compare say the price of an 800XL shipped via the usual quickest EMS method it is comparable to say getting something similar in weight from the US via USPS - which would arrive in a fraction of the time. So you balance the price for the items purchased from Venezuela against the risk of never receiving them. That is the problem.

Obviously the market sets the prices to a large degree but if you set your starting prices too high then the risk will outweigh the possible benefit - i.e. the items actually arriving and within a reasonable time.

Obviously shipping times have been made worse by recent events and Ipostal probably doesn't help matters and non of that is your fault. If you ever come to the UK then bring a ton of Atari stuff with you to sell :D


I never heard about a lost package, thereīs heavy delays, and even one time a customer told t
me that the package from a venezuelan seller took 5 months to arrive! was held in customs a long time, i donīt know the reason.

But the most probably is that if in my contry was different, a Video Game dealer wouldnīt had keep all his left over merchandise all this years..

#25 edintv OFFLINE  

edintv

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 745 posts
  • Location:Venezuela

Posted Wed Jan 5, 2011 8:52 PM

How did all the Musicland items end up there if I may ask?


I donīt know for sure, bust most of the computer games had several tags from musicland, Is funny to see prices go from 49.99 to 9.99, at a 10$ less each tag.

I think that a game dealer who distributed to musicland (and get all the games returned) go bankrupt or a liquidation, and the Warehouse owner in Venezuela bougth the lot dirt cheap. most of the games didnīt came in their original crates, as opposite that The Avalon hill games, Atari and Intellivision, who were bougth directly at their companies..

Thatīs way many computer games from diverse manufacturers had surfaced recently




0 user(s) are browsing this forum

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users