AtariGeezer Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Okay, I'll test my GateWay app with that configuration and see how it goes. If it works, I'll post it so you and others can do a test drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xebec Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Cool. I will look for a copy of BBS Express ST. Got it. Let's see how this goes . . . Just FYI - I ran both BBS Express ST! and then later FoReM. I went FoReM later because my .. <cough> .. software sharing BBS required better (more efficient) file transfer protocols, and also better support for multiple HDD partitions. (TOS LImited 16MB partitions on a 520STm). I also briefly had Fidonet running on FoReM as that seemed very easy to do on FoReM.. With that said, BBS Express ST was substantially better in everything else from what I remembered. I wrote a few BBS Doors for Express (including a Trivial pursuit game I wrote with my Dad that Ledbetter took over development of later). Anyway, yes nostalgic text, sorry.. but +1 for BBS Express here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Great list! Thanks for compiling this. Is there a standard location or repository where this list will be maintained at? Or will we just have to find it in this message thread? -JP I'll have it up on my site (www.sfhqbbs.org) but wanted to clear out some of the ? first. Also wanted to know if anyone had suggestions for other information they wanted in there. I'm actually working on a more interactive version but have a few other things I want to tackle first. I'll probably give it till tomorrow night and then put the page (and the link to it) up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 130xe to sio2pc to ape I found it just to be easier to go into terminal mode and type in the dialing command. Also, for calling the ST BBS's, Ice T is a good choice for the ANSI (I'm not sure, but it might do VT52 as well, but I always went with the ANSI, especially when calling my own BBS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Thanks for including me. I'll put the list up tomorrow after the keyboard installation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight_mile Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I found it just to be easier to go into terminal mode and type in the dialing command. Also, for calling the ST BBS's, Ice T is a good choice for the ANSI (I'm not sure, but it might do VT52 as well, but I always went with the ANSI, especially when calling my own BBS). Yeah me too. That is what is am doing. Just won't let me use the "-" in the address. I have been using syncterm for these bbs' but wanted to log on with the Atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Seeing the list is a little out of date......... Rough draft. Suggestions/Additions/Corrections welcome. 2017 Atari BBS List =========================================================== Atari 8-bit =========================================================== 8-Bit Guild (? - ?) SysOp: Lord Cygnus Platform: Atari 130XE running BBS Express Pro! v2.1a Telnet: 8bitguild.no-ip.org:130 Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) Alcatraz (Resurrected - 2017) SysOp: Giarc, the Warden Platform: Emulated Atari running BBS Express Pro! v2.1a Telnet: 64.121.86.229:9000 Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) The Basement (Resurrected - 2017) SysOp: John Polka Platform: Emulated Atari running BBS Express Pro! v2.1a Telnet: basementbbs.ddns.net:9000 Web Portal: http://www.sfhqbbs.org/telnet-basement.php Website: ? Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) Boot Factory 2k (? - ?) SysOp: Abdul Platform: Emulated Atari running BBS Express Pro! v2.1a Telnet: bfbbs.no-ip.com:8888 Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) Boot Factory 2k (Carina) (Launched - 2017) SysOp: Abdul Platform: Emulated Atari running Carina Telnet: bfbbs.no-ip.com:9000 Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: ? The Veteran Adventurer's Guild (Launched - 2017) SysOp: Guildmaster Tillek Platform: Atari 800xl running Carina 2.7 Telnet: bbs.sfhqbbs.org:3523 Web Portal: Coming Soon Website: Coming Soon Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) The Resistance (Launched - 2017) SysOp: Beavis Platform: Atari 800 running BBS Express Pro! v4.0 Telnet: broadway1.lorexddns.net Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) YYZ BBS (? - ?) SysOp: Lord Cygnus Platform: Atari 65XE running Oasis Jr. Telnet: yyzbbs.no-ip.org:65 Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) =========================================================== Atari ST =========================================================== Dark Force (? - ?) SysOp: DarkLord Platform: Atari Mega ST running BBS Express! ST Telnet: darkforce-bbs.dyndns.org:520 Web Portal: http://www.sfhqbbs.org/telnet-darkforce.php Web Page: http://www.darkforce.org/index2.html Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) STar Fleet HQ (Resurrected - 2013) SysOp: Commodore Clifford (Tillek) Platform: Atari Mega STE running RatSoft ST Telnet: bbs.sfhqbbs.org:5983 Web Portal: http://www.sfhqbbs.org/telnet.php Website: http://www.sfhqbbs.org Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) ST Guild (Resurrected - 2017) SysOp: Arch Mage Platform: Atari 520STE running BBS Express! ST v1.99 Telnet: stguildbbs.ddns.net Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) TOXiC NiPPLE BBS (Launched - ?) SysOp: Moop Platform: Atari Mega ST running BBS Express! ST Telnet: bbs.retrohack.se:9001 Web Portal: ? Website: ? Verified: ? Just a "FYI'... I originally started DarkForce around 1993. We ran until late 1999/2000 then took roughly a five year break. I restarted when the 8bit crowd pointed out to me that I could use a Lantronix device to gain telnet capability across my LAN. That was 2005. So you could put 1993, resurrected 2005. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Just FYI - I ran both BBS Express ST! and then later FoReM. I went FoReM later because my .. <cough> .. software sharing BBS required better (more efficient) file transfer protocols, and also better support for multiple HDD partitions. (TOS LImited 16MB partitions on a 520STm). I also briefly had Fidonet running on FoReM as that seemed very easy to do on FoReM.. With that said, BBS Express ST was substantially better in everything else from what I remembered. I wrote a few BBS Doors for Express (including a Trivial pursuit game I wrote with my Dad that Ledbetter took over development of later). Anyway, yes nostalgic text, sorry.. but +1 for BBS Express here Hmm, what TOS version are you using on your 520 STm? I'm using TOS v1.04 here on my Mega ST4 and it gives me 512 meg partitions with HDDriver. If you're running something earlier than 1.04 I highly recommend that you upgrade for many, many, good reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xebec Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Hmm, what TOS version are you using on your 520 STm? I'm using TOS v1.04 here on my Mega ST4 and it gives me 512 meg partitions with HDDriver. If you're running something earlier than 1.04 I highly recommend that you upgrade for many, many, good reasons. This was circa ~ 1988-1989/early 1990.. For 'daily ST usage' I have a Mega STE Now, although I still have the 520STm. It was definitely pre-1.04. I still have the 520ST in storage; i should probably buy a newer TOS for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Yeah me too. That is what is am doing. Just won't let me use the "-" in the address. I have been using syncterm for these bbs' but wanted to log on with the Atari. I'm fairly sure Ice-T doesn't block it... I'm actually surprised that even interm mode it won't let you type a - in the atdt command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 This was circa ~ 1988-1989/early 1990.. For 'daily ST usage' I have a Mega STE Now, although I still have the 520STm. It was definitely pre-1.04. I still have the 520ST in storage; i should probably buy a newer TOS for it... None of that really matters... The REAL question... Do you still have the old BBS hard drive? (And I'm just kidding, it is cool you're still using the real Atari.... Got a couple MSTE's myself... Run the BBS off one... But the TT is my main Atari machine now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Just a "FYI'... I originally started DarkForce around 1993. We ran until late 1999/2000 then took roughly a five year break. I restarted when the 8bit crowd pointed out to me that I could use a Lantronix device to gain telnet capability across my LAN. That was 2005. So you could put 1993, resurrected 2005. Thank you... Actually, I was just going to put the "last action" but I'd be happy to put the whole history if people are willing to provide me with the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight_mile Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I'm fairly sure Ice-T doesn't block it... I'm actually surprised that even interm mode it won't let you type a - in the atdt command. Yeah I think it is ok on ice-t. I was trying it with bobterm. Ice tea looks awful on my Atari 130 and the LCD tv I have it plugged into. For the ansi stuff I do just use syncterm. But I am gonna give ice-t a spin on the emulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Hmm, what TOS version are you using on your 520 STm? I'm using TOS v1.04 here on my Mega ST4 and it gives me 512 meg partitions with HDDriver. If you're running something earlier than 1.04 I highly recommend that you upgrade for many, many, good reasons. Actually, the 16MB was the boot partition limit, and that was actually for ICD's driver that actually imposed that limit ( and maybe the Atari drivers too). The actual limit for TOS <1.4 was 256mb. HDDriver doesn't have that problem... the boot partition can be as big as TOS allows. Of course then there is BigDos.... Jookie's page has some more information... http://joo.kie.sk/?page_id=345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Thanks for including me. I'll put the list up tomorrow after the keyboard installation. Well, of course I would! Trust me, I know how hard it can be to be "accepted". There are still Atari BBS's here that list long dead BBS's but not mine. Even the older list... It took me awhile to get back on it even after my system was pretty stable again. If you exist, you're on the list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 This was circa ~ 1988-1989/early 1990.. For 'daily ST usage' I have a Mega STE Now, although I still have the 520STm. It was definitely pre-1.04. I still have the 520ST in storage; i should probably buy a newer TOS for it... I would. Faster drive access, many new features, bug fixes, etc. It's also one of the easier upgrades to do. Just determine whether you've got the 6 chip or 2 chip version and away you go. The Mega STe's are the top of the line for the ST's. I still have a soft spot for the original 520 with no drive (nostalgia) and the Mega ST (workhorse). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I'll have it up on my site (www.sfhqbbs.org) but wanted to clear out some of the ? first. Also wanted to know if anyone had suggestions for other information they wanted in there. I'm actually working on a more interactive version but have a few other things I want to tackle first. I'll probably give it till tomorrow night and then put the page (and the link to it) up. For the resurrected BBSs, maybe list the years they were originally up. The Basement was originally up from 1986 - 1998. Just an idea. No big deal. -JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Thank you... Actually, I was just going to put the "last action" but I'd be happy to put the whole history if people are willing to provide me with the information. Oh, one more thing - have to double check but I believe that 1.98 was the last release for BBS Express ST, not 1.99. Don't quote me on that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Oh, one more thing - have to double check but I believe that 1.98 was the last release for BBS Express ST, not 1.99. Don't quote me on that though. Thanks... I actually was trying to catch it real quick as it flew by while I was calling ST Guild... (Tried it yet?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 For the resurrected BBSs, maybe list the years they were originally up. The Basement was originally up from 1986 - 1998. Just an idea. No big deal. -JP Like I said to DarkLord, I'm totally fine with that so long as the SysOps get me that info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I would. Faster drive access, many new features, bug fixes, etc. It's also one of the easier upgrades to do. Just determine whether you've got the 6 chip or 2 chip version and away you go. The Mega STe's are the top of the line for the ST's. I still have a soft spot for the original 520 with no drive (nostalgia) and the Mega ST (workhorse). Yeah... love those machines... Got all of those myself. The 520 STm will be on the coffee table connected to the 40" with two GT-100 drives (and perhaps painted black, I haven't decided). But that's not BBS related. But I still dreamed of making the LaST Stand BBS with a stack of megas as a multi-node BBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Oh, one more thing - have to double check but I believe that 1.98 was the last release for BBS Express ST, not 1.99. Don't quote me on that though. I just called ST-Guild back (paying closer attention) ... and it was 1.98a So I'll correct that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Update! ======= Boot Factory 2k+ (1984 - 1996 (dialup); 1999 - today (IP))SysOp: Abdul (bf2k+)Platform: Emulated Atari running BBS Express Pro! v2.1aTelnet: bfbbs.no-ip.com:8888Web Portal: ?Website: bf.amfband.comVerified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) =======Boot Factory 2k (Carina) (Launched - 2016)SysOp: AbdulPlatform: Emulated Atari running Carina 2.6Telnet: bfbbs.no-ip.com:9000Web Portal: Website: bf.amfband.comVerified: not a permanent BBS - up and down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Update! ======= Boot Factory 2k+ (1984 - 1996 (dialup); 1999 - today (IP)) SysOp: Abdul (bf2k+) Platform: Emulated Atari running BBS Express Pro! v2.1a Telnet: bfbbs.no-ip.com:8888 Web Portal: ? Website: bf.amfband.com Verified: 22 July 2017 (Tillek) ======= Boot Factory 2k (Carina) (Launched - 2016) SysOp: Abdul Platform: Emulated Atari running Carina 2.6 Telnet: bfbbs.no-ip.com:9000 Web Portal: Website: bf.amfband.com Verified: not a permanent BBS - up and down Thanks for the update. I meant to ask you, since the Carina one isn't really permanent, do you even want it appearing in a BBS list? (Your call) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xebec Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 None of that really matters... The REAL question... Do you still have the old BBS hard drive? (And I'm just kidding, it is cool you're still using the real Atari.... Got a couple MSTE's myself... Run the BBS off one... But the TT is my main Atari machine now). You have no idea how much I wish I still had my original BBS HDD . Unfortunately it was one of those weird combos where the mechanism died (ST277N?), and I put it on a shelf for a while.. Tried a few years later to stick a 85MB Seagate in there but could never get it working.. If I had the drives today (both of them) I'd actually pay someone to do the full data restoration but stuff happened and.. they're gone. Anything I had on floppy left when a "friend" borrowed by 1040ST and a box or two of disks and then.. disappeared. The only thing I have from my ST BBS left software-wise is the serial # file to Space Empire Elite.. I do have my floppy for BBS Express 850 1.0 though.. (and PCBoard 14.2, 14.5.. ) Very nice on the TT! The TT would have been excellent (albeit $$) for a multi line BBS.. Do you run standard TOS on these machines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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